Swansea 1-3 LCFC, post match thread

[Devonfox1884]

I’m very perplexed at the hate Faes is getting for making a good challenge that should have resulted in a goal kick. Slightly risky, yes, but he got it right - not his fault the ref got it wrong.

 

I don’t rate the man, but it’s beyond harsh. I’d go so far as to say if it had been many other members of the squad - Abdul, James, Ricardo etc, the reaction would be very different and sympathetic.

[DerbyshireFox]

Missed the first 35mins thanks to the traffic and the coach driver needing to stop as a result, but enjoyed the second half. Nice to see us kick on and learn the lesson of Tuesday night.  Great goals. Felt their captain smashing Daka off the ball maybe fired us back up again going into the latter stages. Thankfully a much quicker journey home than getting there 🤣

[ClaphamFox]

4 minutes ago, Devonfox1884 said:

I’m very perplexed at the hate Faes is getting for making a good challenge that should have resulted in a goal kick. Slightly risky, yes, but he got it right - not his fault the ref got it wrong.

 

I don’t rate the man, but it’s beyond harsh. I’d go so far as to say if it had been many other members of the squad - Abdul, James, Ricardo etc, the reaction would be very different and sympathetic.

Nobody with an ounce of intelligence is directing hate at Faes for that challenge yesterday. It was a perfectly good tackle. 

[Beachyboy]

First game I've went to for nearly 2 years. I don't know what it was yesterday but I didn't feel that joy, I used to feel when we scored. The last game I went to was the Cardiff away game in the last championship season, both times sat in the home section but when KDH scored that first goal in that evening it was a lot harder to control my emotions than yesterday, hopefully Marti can bring that identity and connection back to the team, regardless of what division we are in, I want to see that connection again, there were signs of a start of it at the final whistle between fans and the players. 

[Wolfox]

1 hour ago, MC Prussian said:

Huh?
Cov, Boro, Preston, Stoke (and Ipswich for now) all have a better defensive record. Even Charlton sit on eight goals conceded.

 

Faes didn't even play in the starting lineup in August.
I'd argue the pairing of Vestergaard and Okoli is the better one.

Huh?  I didn’t check…. Someone said it another thread I think…. I therefore retract my statement 

 

Sideshow and Lurch are awful !

 

 

[Brizzle Fox]

29 minutes ago, Devonfox1884 said:

I’m very perplexed at the hate Faes is getting for making a good challenge that should have resulted in a goal kick. Slightly risky, yes, but he got it right - not his fault the ref got it wrong.

 

I don’t rate the man, but it’s beyond harsh. I’d go so far as to say if it had been many other members of the squad - Abdul, James, Ricardo etc, the reaction would be very different and sympathetic.

Now I dislike Faes as much as the next man, but for once he did absolutely nothing wrong.  He did his job right, it's the officials who didn't, which is all too common in this god forsaken league. 

 

It's pure confirmation bias to think anything different.

[Bourbon Fox]

1 hour ago, adam95581 said:

And fair enough if we did as he doesn’t have a track record of doing stupid things.
 

 

I didn't say we'd forgive him for doing something stupid, I said we'd be backing him in what was a good, fair challenge that the ref got wrong. 

 

 

[LCFCJohn]

I think you can both look at it and say the ref was crap and it wasn’t a foul whilst thinking Faes was still a bit of an idiot for going to ground and risking it. We know the refs are poor, I think we are receiving some awful decisions against us, probably a result of the EFL’s agenda against us. 
 

But did he need to go to ground or could he has stayed on his feet and checked the Swans player? I would have fancied he could have seen it out of play even if he had stayed on his feet.

[JonnyZeroFox]

Faes wins the ball cleanly, he has every right to do so, and stop the cross ball. I know it’s popular to jump on him, but not this time 

Edited 5 October 2025 by JonnyZeroFox

[adam95581]

2 hours ago, Bourbon Fox said:

I didn't say we'd forgive him for doing something stupid, I said we'd be backing him in what was a good, fair challenge that the ref got wrong. 

 

 

He shouldn’t be giving the ref a decision to make in that position though 

[grobyfox1990]

4 hours ago, MGLCFC said:

I'm not disagreeing with you about him flying in, but the fact is the ref got it wrong. It was a perfectly good tackle and should have been a goal kick and yes ref's make mistakes, but had we drawn 1-1, I think this would have been a much bigger talking point.

Agree with everything you’re saying. My point remains that it is an entirely fair and understandable human error in real time from the ref. And that’s why the technology exists so that these human errors don’t need to happen. 
 

[JonnyZeroFox]

So when the ball is there cleanly to be won, you don’t? Is this what people are saying?

 

Faes did everything right in my view, I want defenders that can take risk, tackle and take the ball.. not to stand around for the simple cross ball.. it was there and easily won, what’s the issue.. he did well. It wasn’t rash it was a simple tackle 

Edited 5 October 2025 by JonnyZeroFox

[Beachyboy]

23 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

I think you can both look at it and say the ref was crap and it wasn’t a foul whilst thinking Faes was still a bit of an idiot for going to ground and risking it. We know the refs are poor, I think we are receiving some awful decisions against us, probably a result of the EFL’s agenda against us. 
 

But did he need to go to ground or could he has stayed on his feet and checked the Swans player? I would have fancied he could have seen it out of play even if he had stayed on his feet.

I thought in the first half Monga got some questionable favourable decisions while Swansea had a couple decisions which went against them around that period. When Monga proceeded to go to ground at every opportunity those decisions changed to no free kicks late first half and the 2nd half. I agree Faes or anybody else there doesn't need to make that tackle, I did think he looked good on the ball and is a good defender for us at this level as is Vestergaard. 

[EastAnglianFox]

8 minutes ago, adam95581 said:

He shouldn’t be giving the ref a decision to make in that position though 

If he’d backed off and let the player get the ball into the box which resulted in a goal, he’d be getting absolute pelters on here.

 

I don’t like Faes and want him out but he was doing what a defender does and got the fair challenge in

[Beachyboy]

1 minute ago, JonnyZeroFox said:

So when the ball is there cleanly to be won, you don’t? Is this what people are saying?

 

Faes did everything right in my view, I want defenders that can take risk, tackle and take the ball.. not to stand around for the simple cross ball.. 

It's percentages if the striker or player is through on goal and a tackle needs to be made sure, if they are near the corner flag with no apparent danger why make a tackle? We see it all the time in the game tackles not attempted as the odds of winning the ball are less, ideally you win the ball without leaving the opponent on the floor if there isn't any imminent danger. 

 

The FA principles of play are delay, press, compact, cover, balance control and restraint. Its about winning the ball while not affecting the rest of the teams shape and from a place where you can counter, most defending in a game is usually not about winning the ball unless the opportunity is right to do so. 

[Beachyboy]

1 minute ago, EastAnglianFox said:

If he’d backed off and let the player get the ball into the box which resulted in a goal, he’d be getting absolute pelters on here.

 

I don’t like Faes and want him out but he was doing what a defender does and got the fair challenge in

Stand on your feet and block the cross its not an either or in that situation. 

[JonnyZeroFox]

9 minutes ago, Beachyboy said:

It's percentages if the striker or player is through on goal and a tackle needs to be made sure, if they are near the corner flag with no apparent danger why make a tackle? We see it all the time in the game tackles not attempted as the odds of winning the ball are less, ideally you win the ball without leaving the opponent on the floor if there isn't any imminent danger. 

 

The FA principles of play are delay, press, compact, cover, balance control and restraint. Its about winning the ball while not affecting the rest of the teams shape and from a place where you can counter, most defending in a game is usually not about winning the ball unless the opportunity is right to do so. 

It wasn’t near the corner flag… it was in the box 

[Leicesterpool]

Best performance ive seen from the foxes since 2024 promotion season. Just everyone seem to put in a performance and looked up for it. Lets use this as the regular standard. 

 

Enjoyed it yesterday 

[LCFCJohn]

18 minutes ago, Beachyboy said:

I thought in the first half Monga got some questionable favourable decisions while Swansea had a couple decisions which went against them around that period. When Monga proceeded to go to ground at every opportunity those decisions changed to no free kicks late first half and the 2nd half. I agree Faes or anybody else there doesn't need to make that tackle, I did think he looked good on the ball and is a good defender for us at this level as is Vestergaard. 

I disagree about Faes and Vestergaard to an lesser extent, I think Faes is poor and Vestergaard average but him being fairly good on the ball (when with loads of time and unchallenged) overshadows him being a poor defender in many peoples minds.

 

Even if you do class Faes as unfortunate yesterday, the list of errors in the couple of games before that was long enough that I would be disappointed with a youth defender making that many errors, let along two senior and experienced players. 
 

Unfortunately if we do go up, if we don’t bring in any new centre backs and line up with the two of them again, we are surrendering any chance of staying up. 

[Bourbon Fox]

55 minutes ago, adam95581 said:

He shouldn’t be giving the ref a decision to make in that position though 

Again, if it was a player we like I don't think we'd be saying that

[Bourbon Fox]

30 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

I disagree about Faes and Vestergaard to an lesser extent, I think Faes is poor and Vestergaard average but him being fairly good on the ball (when with loads of time and unchallenged) overshadows him being a poor defender in many peoples minds.

 

Even if you do class Faes as unfortunate yesterday, the list of errors in the couple of games before that was long enough that I would be disappointed with a youth defender making that many errors, let along two senior and experienced players. 
 

Unfortunately if we do go up, if we don’t bring in any new centre backs and line up with the two of them again, we are surrendering any chance of staying up. 

Vestergaard's strength does not outweigh his glaring weakness, even at this level

[LCFCJohn]

6 minutes ago, Bourbon Fox said:

Vestergaard's strength does not outweigh his glaring weakness, even at this level

I agree. I think people who think he is good either get sucked in by his ability to pass a few yards when under no pressure or are living two years ago.

 

Actually it’s his couple of goals that have been his best contribution this season.

[Bordersfox]

2 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

I agree. I think people who think he is good either get sucked in by his ability to pass a few yards when under no pressure or are living two years ago.

 

Actually it’s his couple of goals that have been his best contribution this season.

Vestergaard has the turning circle of an oil tanker and is slow, sure.  

 

But he's one of the few players we've got and perhaps the only defender in the league (don't watch every team so stand to be corrected) that can ping a pass that instantly breaks the oppostions press. That's a dangerous weapon.  

 

The idea he's only making passes that travel a few yards just isn't reality.  That forms part of what he does, but it's isn't all he does.  

 

He's also been pretty solid defensively and in the air this season.  He will inevitably get caught out for lack of pace at times but his strengths outweigh that.  In this league.  

 

The real issue is that he isn't working for us in the Premier League and we need to find a solution for that if we get promoted.  

[adam95581]

22 minutes ago, Bourbon Fox said:

Again, if it was a player we like I don't think we'd be saying that

This repeated point doesn’t really work with me. 
 

Feel free to go through my posts and you’ll see I’m not a Faes hater (I don’t rate him but he still adds more to the team at this level than other options). I can call it a stupid challenge without it serving some sort of personal agenda. 
 

[adam95581]

1 hour ago, EastAnglianFox said:

If he’d backed off and let the player get the ball into the box which resulted in a goal, he’d be getting absolute pelters on here.

 

I don’t like Faes and want him out but he was doing what a defender does and got the fair challenge in

We’ll never know if that would have happened though. We do know that he dived in 2 yards from the by-line and gave away a pen. 
 

Ultimately it doesn’t matter but it’s still my opinion that you dive in as a last resort and it wasn’t a last resort…and whether it had been Faes or Ricardo or Fatawu I’d still hold that view.