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Posted
27 minutes ago, trooky said:

Why set another manager up to fail on this abysmal squad, we need to shift as much of this shit by the end of the season and start a fresh then with a proper manager. 

Just like in the summer, nobody will buy the crap ones

Posted
5 minutes ago, 5waller5 said:

Rosenior and Hasenhutl are two names that really drive home how far we’ve fallen.

 

And I think both would turn us down 😫

You mean Hasenhüttl will say nine?

 

Sorry probably not the right night for that joke is it

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Posted (edited)
7 hours ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

Do you think this squad is a two goal swing per game and 1 point swing per game worse than Coventrys? 

Yes, because this squad doesn't have any pace in defence or midfield, basics like work ethic, desire to fight for each other and missing a striker. 

 

They haven't played for the last 3 managers, either the confidence is gone, or they're are some serious divisions in the squad. 

 

 

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Posted
7 hours ago, worthosoriginals said:

Just like in the summer, nobody will buy the crap ones

Yes but a least 5 will leave on a free soon and we'll free up some wages. 

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Posted

If Marti goes then I really hope we have the strength of conviction to go and recruit and pay compo to bring in a bright upcoming manager. My shortlist would be - 

 

Richie Wellens

Craig Bellamy

Miron Muslic 

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Posted
35 minutes ago, trooky said:

Yes, because this squad doesn't have any pace in defence or midfield, basics like work ethic, desire to fight for each other and missing a striker. 

 

They haven't played for the last 3 managers, either the confidence is gone, or they're are some serious divisions in the squad. 

 

 

I’m sorry but I massively disagree with this. Coventrys squad is not +30 GD and 16 pts better than ours after just 17 games.

 

Yes, we are a mess and it’s mainly down to the people at the top but Marti is still doing a very poor job. 

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Thing is, I don’t mind if we are shit or mediocre for a bit if there is some form of coherent plan being developed, a style, identity, systems. I’d take a long term project if that is the plan and it communicated. What we can’t keep doing is rehashing the same spineless shits each week, clear the rot. It’s probably going to be a very long time if ever that we get to see the Premier League again, that’s the reality. 

Posted

At this point I’d take Slaven Bilic but I don’t think Cif will be sacked (sadly) until we know the outcome of our points deduction and we have a new tech director in place. 

Posted
3 hours ago, Nick said:

At this point I’d take Slaven Bilic but I don’t think Cif will be sacked (sadly) until we know the outcome of our points deduction and we have a new tech director in place. 

 

I think that's being optimistic.  I think the intention is for Marti to be here for the rest of this season at least

Posted
4 hours ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

If Marti goes then I really hope we have the strength of conviction to go and recruit and pay compo to bring in a bright upcoming manager. My shortlist would be - 

 

Richie Wellens

Craig Bellamy

Miron Muslic 

Only just joined Schalke and has them second, so that's not happening 

Posted

Best hope is someone who can just motivate and also stick to a pretty simple football idea. Players are going to be here regardless until the summer, we need someone who can get something out of them. 

Posted
3 minutes ago, Fox85 said:

Mark robins wouldn't actually be a bad shout tbh

agree, but he's not stupid and wouldn't touch us with a barge pole, 

Posted
4 hours ago, trooky said:

Yes, because this squad doesn't have any pace in defence or midfield, basics like work ethic, desire to fight for each other and missing a striker. 

 

They haven't played for the last 3 managers, either the confidence is gone, or they're are some serious divisions in the squad. 

 

 

If you look at the attributes of the players in our squad, they can only really play one way to be successful. Maresca got them to play that way. 

We have invested poorly and whilst players fitted a system, when we’ve changed manager we just can’t adapt tactically. 

 

Winks, Vestergaard, Mavididi, Faes etc are good players in the right system, This is why no one wants them. Technically they are all good players, however they lack the physicality to almost drag us out of this league. You can carry a few players that are limited, you can’t carry 3/4 of a team.

 

With all the will in the world, no manager is getting Soumare to track runners, or turning Ayew or Daka into a prolific scoring forward.

 

This season is almost a “keep us in the league”, we’ll see more tactically limited players leave and then we move on. 
 

We potentially need players with lesser technical ability and more grit ala Okoli rather than Faes etc. 

 

So do we stick or twist on a head coach, that realistically isn’t going to really get that much more from the same bunch? It’s a rough ask and I can see why people wouldn’t want the job in all

honesty. 
 

We have lost the grit that got us promoted 2 years ago. KDH, Vardy, Ndidi all improve this team due to physicality alone. That’s before you talk

about football IQ and actual ability.

 

People mentioned Dyche yesterday but how is he going to set this squad up? I don’t think anyone who’s half decent takes the job.in put current state. 

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Posted
4 hours ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

I’m sorry but I massively disagree with this. Coventrys squad is not +30 GD and 16 pts better than ours after just 17 games.

 

Yes, we are a mess and it’s mainly down to the people at the top but Marti is still doing a very poor job. 

Yes we're a mess Marti should be doing better.

 

I don't see any point replacing a manager until the structure that appoints the manager is replaced otherwise they'll get it wrong again like the last 3 attempts. 

 

This squad is disgusting and blaming the manager all the time is an easy option. 

Posted
1 minute ago, trooky said:

Yes we're a mess Marti should be doing better.

 

I don't see any point replacing a manager until the structure that appoints the manager is replaced otherwise they'll get it wrong again like the last 3 attempts. 

 

This squad is disgusting and blaming the manager all the time is an easy option. 

You could replace and it help the journey, I.E an appointment like Pearson/Enzo who had the authority over the players but also had the long term vision.  But you'd need the board to get it right, they also need to get the other appointments right too.

Posted
26 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said:

Only just joined Schalke and has them second, so that's not happening 

You mean like Rob Edward’s leaving Middlesbrough to join Wolves. If the financial package is attractive enough and the individual believes he can be a success then anything can happen. 

Posted
1 minute ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

You mean like Rob Edward’s leaving Middlesbrough to join Wolves. If the financial package is attractive enough and the individual believes he can be a success then anything can happen. 

Rob Edwards joining Wolves isn't remotely the same

Posted
Just now, Tommy Fresh said:

Rob Edwards joining Wolves isn't remotely the same

It is he recently joined them and had them 2nd. Muslic wouldn’t be on massive wages and he may see us in the championship and a potential rebuild and chance to manage in the prem if successful as an intriguing and potentially exciting project. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

You mean like Rob Edward’s leaving Middlesbrough to join Wolves. If the financial package is attractive enough and the individual believes he can be a success then anything can happen. 

 

Wolves are in the Premier League (for now) and they're Edwards' club. They aren't really comparable situations.

 

Bellamy is an interesting shout though, would be nice to have someone even vaguely interesting as manager after the three ghouls we've had recently. Something on a knife-edge that feels as if it could implode at any time would at least add some spice to proceedings 

Posted
5 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

It is he recently joined them and had them 2nd. Muslic wouldn’t be on massive wages and he may see us in the championship and a potential rebuild and chance to manage in the prem if successful as an intriguing and potentially exciting project. 

Being second and recently joining are the only thing that's the same

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