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Realistic Managerial Replacements

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CarolinaFox

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A club that has sacked a manager isn't in the position to thumb through all of the best fit managers in world football and take its time. It has to make a calculated risk based on several factors: past performance, personality, availability, overall fit in terms of playing style, affordability, impact on PSR etc. But I do think we have to keep in mind that right now we are not appointing a manager for next season in the premier league. We are appointing a manager to get us back to basics, putting together a  product on the field that plays with confidence, intensity, identity and passion week in and week out for 90 minutes a match. Using those criteria, is there a decent pick out there? We are talking "realistic" managerial replacements after all. 

inckley fox

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15 minutes ago, CarolinaFox said:

Who do you have in mind? 

A very good question! I should really do more homework.

 

The big caveat is whether there's any point in making a change. I could go on all day about my gripes with Cifuentes: calling for a 'clean slate' when you're the sixth manager in two-and-a-half years, then subsequently succumbing to the same set of problems. Placing faith in players who had let successive managers down, in some cases having had their professional standards called into question - and yet trusting them as senior pros, and even giving them the armband on occasion. The exclusion of Nelson in favour of Faes and Vestergard. Pushing James into the 10 role to accommodate Winks, Soumare, Skipp. The game time afforded to these players, and Ayew. Throwing Aluko in at the deep end without prior minutes. The tactics. The reaction to going three down in the week - saying the first goal was offside again and again, thus letting your players off the hook, then (unsurprisingly, if nobody wants to face up to reality) doing exactly the same four days later.

 

But can this board do any better? Is the money there? Would a new manager walk into the same god-awful mess as the last three managers and suffer exactly the same fate? You get to a point where you have to wonder whether we're changing the things that need changing.

 

If we do go for it, then there are loads of managers out there with good track records at their respective levels. I'm clearer about what I'd avoid than what I'd go for. I'd avoid anyone wedded to possession football, and anyone who favoured shape and style over physicality and substance. I'd look for a team-builder, and preferably a bastard.

 

There are those who advocate for Carrick, but I'd want to see how attached he is to purist notions of the game. It's not the time for that, if it ever has been. I'd look abroad. I'd look at League One and Challinor and whoever else. I don't know enough about Skubala, but I'm sure there are other emerging names worthy of a quick look. And in terms of avoiding short-termism or backwards thinking, I honestly believe that O'Neill or, if he's learnt how to move again, Pearson on a two-year deal would offer more for the long term, and with respect to a fundamental tactical shift, than Farke.

inckley fox

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1 hour ago, JimJams said:

Ok, so someone suggests a manager with a proven record of promotion from the championship, and is shot down.  So presumably then we're looking for managers with a track record of getting promoted to the premier league and keeping them there. Like Cooper for example.  So what names can we throw out then?

I kind of replied to you too in my other post. Sorry for not reposting you.

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Phild

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21 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

Our short term reactive approach would definitely see us going for Farke if he becomes available.

With where we are currently and how shit we are I wouldn’t be surprised if we tried to get Gerrard. 
A big name with something to prove and the hope he has the same impact as Lampard has had at Cov. 

You seriously think they would put their careers on the line coming to this car crash of a club thats only plummeting one way. 

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winteriscoming

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5 minutes ago, Phild said:

You seriously think they would put their careers on the line coming to this car crash of a club thats only plummeting one way. 

Whoever comes in has nothing to prove especially with the points deduction. 
It’s a win win situation for whoever comes in. 

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coolhandfox

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Just now, Stadt said:

Loads turned their noses up at Wilder in the summer, would have liked him here. 

Need someone no nonsense.

 

If we every needed a Pearson type figure the time is now! 

STUHILL

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4 minutes ago, Stadt said:

Loads turned their noses up at Wilder in the summer, would have liked him here. 

Loads turned their nose up at anyone who had a history in this league or above. 
People prefer the less experienced and exotic sounding foreign managers, as they can fill in the unknowns with their own wish list. It can sometimes work, as it did with Enzo, but the situation we were in this Summer, meant that we really needed an experienced, horrible git who would at least get an 11 on the pitch that worked hard and gave a shit. Cifuentes was never that guy and I am surprised so many were so happy with his appointment. 

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Tielemans63

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There's too much player power at this club, I'm convinced of it. I think it's often been that way under KP, but they were fortunate as we had outstanding guys like Wes, Kasper, Vards and Albrighton driving standards. Now we have pathetic leeches like Winks, Faes and Vesty with too much power. Guys who have been through two relegation and who have been central in the rapid erosion of standards at the club. When you think about it, it absolutely defies logic that they're still here after such repeated failure.....that can only really mean one thing.

 

Whoever comes in needs to be backed to get ready of these twats, but it won't happen because Top and Jon haven't got a pair of bollocks between them.

 

The next manager is going to have exactly the same problems. Look at RvN before Marti. Tactically he was shit and deserved the boot, but he was right to question the likes of Winks and Vesty.....and look at how that went. They down tools and he's gone. 

 

The next manager has to be a big personality, a strong character- but that's exactly what KP don't want.

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moore_94

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Should be having a word with Valencia about Corberan

 

They are probably going to be sacking him soon anyway so should agree a deal where they and us don't have to pay any compo

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Glasgow fox

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1 hour ago, Stadt said:

Loads turned their noses up at Wilder in the summer, would have liked him here. 

We would have all called for his head 3 weeks ago if he was here...the blame is totally with the board...yes Marti is clueless but the board appointed him.  Fact.

Tielemans63

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Ruben Selles is Spanish, plays wanky tiki-taka, failed miserably at Southampton, and has an inflated reputation that is completely out of step with his actual achievements.

 

Ticking all the KP boxes, there

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Corky

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1 hour ago, Stadt said:

Loads turned their noses up at Wilder in the summer, would have liked him here. 

It could have been more that recently he hasn't impressed outside Sheffield United. But yeah, I think the spirit would be higher at least.

Stadt

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6 minutes ago, Corky said:

It could have been more that recently he hasn't impressed outside Sheffield United. But yeah, I think the spirit would be higher at least.

90+ points last season not to be sniffed at 

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