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Posted (edited)
11 minutes ago, Aus Fox said:

If we can see out the evening, there is a bit of rain around over the next 2 days… 

Won't see out the next 45 minutes. So done with this lot. Stokes and McCullum had so much faith in a lot of these players but there's just as bad as the previous lot (bar Root obviously).

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Hopefully this is the end of Rob Key. Mainly for his annoying lines like 'you should be able to watch a players highlights for 60 seconds and tell whether they're a good player or not'

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2 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

 

That's the worse part they were here for the taking.

 

We have the sort of record over there that has pundits questioning the merits of participation if a minnow was involved.

Posted (edited)

Sums up the ego issue. Pathetic from Brook.

Why review a massive, obvious edge ? A batter knows when he/she's knicked it. 

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Posted (edited)
45 minutes ago, Swarles Barkley said:

I think you have mixed up the reviews here mate

Brook did review both though didn't he, even the one he obviously knicked ? He rightly reviewed the 1st & was right. The 2nd he edged & was wrong. Just checked the BBC & they confirmed it. 

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It's just so predictable. You just know, once we lose a wicket, we're likely to lose two or three more in quick succession. And as others have said, the Aussies are only a decent team, missing their best bowlers, yet we're making them look so much better.

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4 hours ago, STEVIE B said:

The Aussies have this set up perfectly. They'll have a lead of over 150 & will bowl at Eng with a new pink ball under the lights. 

This could get very messy, very quickly. 

It did & I went to days 1 & 2

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Honestly, I don't think anyone is yet to identify what the real problem is with this inconsistency.

 

It's not attitude, pretty much the same England team was losing Tests for fun - and losing them equally badly to more inferior opposition - with other styles of play.

It's not talent levels - Brook and Root, to name two, are world-class bats and while England miss Broad and Anderson, the issue doesn't appear to lie with the bowling.

 

So what's going on? Systemic problem?

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11 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Honestly, I don't think anyone is yet to identify what the real problem is with this inconsistency.

 

It's not attitude, pretty much the same England team was losing Tests for fun - and losing them equally badly to more inferior opposition - with other styles of play.

It's not talent levels - Brook and Root, to name two, are world-class bats and while England miss Broad and Anderson, the issue doesn't appear to lie with the bowling.

 

So what's going on? Systemic problem?

This theory may be absolutely mental but I read it in a book called criconomics. By and large most of the English players who get through are products of the public school system (duckett, pope, Crawley, Atkinson and smith for example). Largely due to the facilities they have access to. And they largely play in cricket thats not that tough growing up.

 

In Australia and India its completely different. Its the national sport, everyone plays it and its tough as anything. So whilst resources get England so far, we just dont produce tough cricketers - so when its really hard we go to shit. There's no nasty streak in the side whatsoever. In the field you can see Stokes just isn't backed up. 

 

Im not sure you could ever prove it one way or another and there's plenty of players weve produced that are tough, but i just dont think its in our nature nor do we get enough players playing in it. 

 

Its an interesting read if you ever get the chance.

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