Andy King

[foxile5]

6 hours ago, VLC86 said:

Not convinced that throwing another one of our legends out of the door, who knows what it takes to be successful at this club, is the answer but I get the frustration.

 

The club threw him under a bus putting him in charge, why some fans would then want to do this as well is pretty confusing.

I love Andy King but I take serious umbrage with the suggestion the the fans need to get on board. 

 

The club and the owners are the problem and it's embarrassing to hear kingy trotting out this fan blaming bullshit. He's just parroting Top's 'don't criticise me' sensitivity.

 

That's the issue here. A club legend has been bought and paid for. It's your lot fault for not being better. Don't blame the players or the inept owners. 

 

 

[coolhandfox]

38 minutes ago, foxile5 said:

I love Andy King but I take serious umbrage with the suggestion the the fans need to get on board. 

 

The club and the owners are the problem and it's embarrassing to hear kingy trotting out this fan blaming bullshit. He's just parroting Top's 'don't criticise me' sensitivity.

 

That's the issue here. A club legend has been bought and paid for. It's your lot fault for not being better. Don't blame the players or the inept owners. 

 

 

Quote the bit were he blames the fans?

[FLAN]

Why so long to get this out? 

[David Hankey]

The damage had already been done by the time Kingy stepped in.

[VLC86]

1 hour ago, foxile5 said:

I love Andy King but I take serious umbrage with the suggestion the the fans need to get on board. 

 

The club and the owners are the problem and it's embarrassing to hear kingy trotting out this fan blaming bullshit. He's just parroting Top's 'don't criticise me' sensitivity.

 

That's the issue here. A club legend has been bought and paid for. It's your lot fault for not being better. Don't blame the players or the inept owners. 

 

 

I must have missed the parts you mention, because I’ve not seen it.

[foxile5]

41 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Quote the bit were he blames the fans?

The line about 'everyone pulling together' is hardly a subtle suggestion the fans need to shut up, is it? 

 

This is set against the context: Becky Vardy getting at the fans, Fatuwu getting at the fans, Top getting at the fans.

 

Because he doesn't outright state "this is the fans fault and you can quote me" doesn't mean that it hasn't been the rhetoric coming from thing club for weeks and weeks. 

[MPH]

3 minutes ago, foxile5 said:

The line about 'everyone pulling together' is hardly a subtle suggestion the fans need to shut up, is it? 

 

This is set against the context: Becky Vardy getting at the fans, Fatuwu getting at the fans, Top getting at the fans.

 

Because he doesn't outright state "this is the fans fault and you can quote me" doesn't mean that it hasn't been the rhetoric coming from thing club for weeks and weeks. 

 

could be a thinly veiled attack at the bad apples in the team also…

[AyewJoking]

whether you like King or not there is simply nothing about him as a coach or manager.

 

would you tolerate someone as ineffective as King who DIDNT have such a "connection" to the club?

Edited Monday at 16:40 by AyewJoking

[lfu]

2 minutes ago, foxile5 said:

The line about 'everyone pulling together' is hardly a subtle suggestion the fans need to shut up, is it? 

 

This is set against the context: Becky Vardy getting at the fans, Fatuwu getting at the fans, Top getting at the fans.

 

Because he doesn't outright state "this is the fans fault and you can quote me" doesn't mean that it hasn't been the rhetoric coming from thing club for weeks and weeks. 

Reads to me more like he's saying some of the senior players weren't bothered and treated the season as nothing more than getting a wedge for minimal effort

[lcfcbluearmy]

9 hours ago, Officer Doofy said:

Too little too late Kingy. 

 

 

Sorry mate but you were responsible for those standards. Nobody in that backroom team should still be at this football club. 

Ffs how many times do people need to be reminded that wasn't his role! Its like saying Brian barry Murphy is awful because we were bad under rvn

[Narborough Road Fox]

21 minutes ago, MPH said:

 

could be a thinly veiled attack at the bad apples in the team also…

That's how I read it. I didn't read it as an attack on angry supporters (of which I am one).

[Lambert09]

If you’ve got weeds in the garden and it looks like crap, you don’t just dig out all the flowers. 
 

 

[coolhandfox]

1 hour ago, foxile5 said:

The line about 'everyone pulling together' is hardly a subtle suggestion the fans need to shut up, is it? 

 

This is set against the context: Becky Vardy getting at the fans, Fatuwu getting at the fans, Top getting at the fans.

 

Because he doesn't outright state "this is the fans fault and you can quote me" doesn't mean that it hasn't been the rhetoric coming from thing club for weeks and weeks. 

"People see what they want to see, and what people want to see never has anything to do with the truth"

 

— Roberto Bolaño

 

 

Edited Monday at 17:36 by coolhandfox

[Tommy G]

5 hours ago, Nolucklcfc said:

Thrown under the bus for a role he wasn’t ready for with a bunch of players who let multiple managers down but yeah let’s kick one of our greatest legends out the door … 

Give me a reason to keep him here then?

[Tommy Fresh]

19 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

Give me a reason to keep him here then?

Give me the reasons we shouldn't? You realise coaches work under managers right?

[Tommy G]

15 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said:

Give me the reasons we shouldn't? You realise coaches work under managers right?

No I didn’t realise that? Thanks for clearing it up. 
 

He’s been part of a coaching set up that has rotted since Maresca - need a clean slate and they all need to go. 

[Tommy Fresh]

14 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

No I didn’t realise that? Thanks for clearing it up. 
 

He’s been part of a coaching set up that has rotted since Maresca - need a clean slate and they all need to go. 

You're more fun when you ignore posts brother .

 

How do you know King in particular has had a negative influence? 

[old koppite]

I expected/hoped he would improve our midfield - he didn’t. For me we need a fresh coaching team . 

[Claridge]

2 hours ago, AyewJoking said:

whether you like King or not there is simply nothing about him as a coach or manager.

 

would you tolerate someone as ineffective as King who DIDNT have such a "connection" to the club?

Need a complete reset, nice bloke decent player but i dont really see why we would keep him after the last 2 years, as many as it is possible to be rid of for me.players , coaches, management etc…

[moore_94]

Been a full time senior coach for less than 18 months (probably actually less) and I genuinely think people believe he was having massive input in to what they were all doing on the training ground lmao

 

Basically a trainee

Edited Monday at 19:13 by moore_94

[foxile5]

1 hour ago, coolhandfox said:

"People see what they want to see, and what people want to see never has anything to do with the truth"

 

— Roberto Bolaño

 

 

You might think this as some gigantic gotcha moment but it applies both ways doesn't it? 

 

Point me to the quote where he says it isn't the fault of the fan? 

 

The point being it's being arrived at through a process of inference and offering quotations from writers isn't evidence or supportive of anything. 

[moore_94]

4 minutes ago, foxile5 said:

You might think this as some gigantic gotcha moment but it applies both ways doesn't it? 

 

Point me to the quote where he says it isn't the fault of the fan? 

 

The point being it's being arrived at through a process of inference and offering quotations from writers isn't evidence or supportive of anything. 

So what your saying is neither of you should be jumping to conclusions and having a guess?

[VLC86]

We really are a basket case of a club.

[coolhandfox]

14 minutes ago, foxile5 said:

You might think this as some gigantic gotcha moment but it applies both ways doesn't it? 

 

Point me to the quote where he says it isn't the fault of the fan? 

 

The point being it's being arrived at through a process of inference and offering quotations from writers isn't evidence or supportive of anything. 

No I just think it weird to make stuff up.....

 

Plenty of shit to moan about without doing that but each to their own.

[MPH]

1 hour ago, coolhandfox said:

"People see what they want to see, and what people want to see never has anything to do with the truth"

 

— Roberto Bolaño

 

 

 

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