Bristol City 2-2 LCFC - Post Match Thread

[South Shire Fox]

13 minutes ago, when_you're_smiling said:

You see a lot of over-reaction on here ‘that’s the worst 45 minutes ever’ etc… but I bet you can’t find a worse 45 than that. I don’t think we even put more than five passes together until the 93rd minute when they allowed Luke Thomas a shot. Didn’t win a 50/50 or a header either I reckon.

 

4 points from 6 is decent but can’t for the life of me see how we’re good enough to go up. 

We arent? This years about not getting relegated when the points deduction kicks in

[Nods]

6 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

Another rubbish excuse. 
 

at 0-2 up at half time, against a shit football team, you can see it out by making simple tactical decisions. 
 

He’s left Ricardo on the bench, and keeps playing Hamza at RB, when he can’t play there…. We continue to persevere with Thomas when he couldn’t stop a piss wet toilet roll from rolling past him. 
 

I can  accept James was tired but for **** sake, actually make a sub that will help? Daka will do nothing but chase lost courses, Bobby Reid isn’t a box to box midfielder….. bring Ricardo on, Move Hamza into the CDM role and just look to kill the momentum of the game…. For at least 20-30 minutes he basically let Bristol stroll through the midfield space that he had created for them.

 

****ing abysmal decision making. A simple tweak could have prevented it. 
 

We can’t defend at the best of times, making decisions like this gives us no ****ing chance. 

Ricardo is finished. Finito. Done. He can barely get through 90 minutes, let alone coming on days after finishing a 90.

 

Hamza did go into CDM. And it didn't work. 

 

We needed to bring players on capable of keeping the ball and killing the game. Even the players who you could argue might be able to do this are currently injured. 

 

As I've said, I don't buy into Marti either, but there's little point in getting frustrated with him in these instances. I really don't know what I would have done differently in his position. 

 

Bringing Daka on is a smart move on paper. Pace to punish them on the counter. But as we all know, he's a bit rubbish. And we don't have the players to get on the ball and find him in the first place.

[HankMarvin]

1 minute ago, Analysethis said:

Im probably in the minority here but what can the manager do

There job would be nice 

 

Have we seen any fight backs from 2-0? 
 

Does he seem to instill any grit or determination, do we ever see the team rallying to win points or always come up short when losing.

They play like a reflection of his demeanour passive 

[oxtonfox]

3 minutes ago, Analysethis said:

Im probably in the minority here but what can the manager do?

 

Daft to concede so early in the 2nd half after bossing the 1st, but like at Derby, it seems our excursions in the first 45 mins left us looking knackered in the 2nd half. If you look at the chances Derby created they could have easily got back in it as we looked off our feet and it was the same tonight.

 

We have the training facilities, are we not working them hard for fear of injuries as we have had in recent seasons? Fudge knows but what is for sure, Marti needs a transfer window where he can bring in more than just free transfer players aged 30 or over. We cant knock the manager after all of the sales and such a toxic situation at our club. The players need to take responsibility for their 2nd half performance not just making the manager the scapegoat.

“not just making the manager the scapegoat”. Why would we expect anything else? They’ve done that to the last two managers. 

[when_you're_smiling]

3 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

It’s the championship.

its relative to the shit your up against 

 

Saints thought that

Sheff united thought that 

Millwall are 7 points ahead with a decent manager 

Qpr in 7th 

stop with the poor squad shit 

 

 

You would rather have our players than theirs?

 

One of the biggest disappointments for me about tonight is that it likely means Winks and possibly Faes will be back in for Ipswich.

[cityfanlee23]

I said after Sheff United, I'd rather we got tonked 17-0 and were embarrassed so badly that we had to pull the trigger, all the Derby result did was give him more breathing room to throw away points in future. 
I'm still reluctantly in that boat. If losing tonight would guarantee we bring a new manager in, and drawing/winning would give him another month, i'd rather take the loss personally. It just isn't working, and it won't work, we are going to continue putting up inconsistent performances, getting inconsistent results and floating around mid table/bottom half. 

[LichesterRedSoxSoccerBall]

This bullshit about being tired. They're pro athletes that ran for 45-90 mins Saturday and you're telling me they can't do the same Wednesday. What else the lazy bastards got going on it's their job to be fit and run around some grass kicking a sphere into a net 

[lfu]

3 minutes ago, Analysethis said:

Im probably in the minority here but what can the manager do?

Instill some resilience in the players beforehand so that when we do concede, we don't then panic, shit the bed and concede again? Call players over to deliver instructions on the sidelines to counteract the changes the opposition have made that are working so well it's almost as if Marti's prematch analysis and tactical sessions include nothing about "what if the other team try and exploit our weaknesses?"? Go over those weaknesses in training with his backroom team?

[oxtonfox]

5 minutes ago, steveb said:

Just like Farages recent Reform performaces, totally pathetic and as time went on shown to be rotten to the core

 

Did you mean Farage or Fatawu’s recent form? 

[HankMarvin]

1 minute ago, when_you're_smiling said:

You would rather have our players than theirs?

 

One of the biggest disappointments for me about tonight is that it likely means Winks and possibly Faes will be back in for Ipswich.

Was that being said on their losing runs when people were saying how shit they are 

[GorlestonFox]

2 minutes ago, Nods said:

Hamza did go into CDM. And it didn't work

He went there after 10/15 minutes of playing Bobby in there, anyone in their right mind knows BDR is not a CM.

 

He reacted so late it was unbelievable 

[jbflcfc]

What was Luke Thomas doing that whole game?!

Honestly & I mean this, he has got to be the worst footballer in that league, I mean what does he even do? He’s always the wrong side of the man, shits himself under pressure & tries to pull the blokes shirt off his head & stupid positions.

What anyone sees in him I honestly don’t know..

[st albans fox]

3 minutes ago, Nods said:

Ricardo is finished. Finito. Done. He can barely get through 90 minutes, let alone coming on days after finishing a 90.

 

Hamza did go into CDM. And it didn't work. 

 

We needed to bring players on capable of keeping the ball and killing the game. Even the players who you could argue might be able to do this are currently injured. 

 

As I've said, I don't buy into Marti either, but there's little point in getting frustrated with him in these instances. I really don't know what I would have done differently in his position. 

 

Bringing Daka on is a smart move on paper. Pace to punish them on the counter. But as we all know, he's a bit rubbish. And we don't have the players to get on the ball and find him in the first place.

Disagree 

it’s about momentum 

they had it second half and we surrendered any chance of grabbing it back when we left skipp and bdcr as our double pivot!  By the time he moved hamza into the middle it was too late. 

[Edingleyfox]

When you look at the bench very little experience. We don’t know what is happening with Winks or Ricardo but needed them in the second half. Very odd taking James off unless he was carrying an injury 

[when_you're_smiling]

Just now, HankMarvin said:

Was that being said on their losing runs when people were saying how shit they are 

Yes. There’s probably war criminals I’d rather have than a lot of our players.

[Pliskin]

Just now, Nods said:

Ricardo is finished. Finito. Done. He can barely get through 90 minutes, let alone coming on days after finishing a 90.

 

Hamza did go into CDM. And it didn't work. 

 

We needed to bring players on capable of keeping the ball and killing the game. Even the players who you could argue might be able to do this are currently injured. 

 

As I've said, I don't buy into Marti either, but there's little point in getting frustrated with him in these instances. I really don't know what I would have done differently in his position. 

 

Bringing Daka on is a smart move on paper. Pace to punish them on the counter. But as we all know, he's a bit rubbish. And we don't have the players to get on the ball and find him in the first place.

What a load of bollocks, Ricardo isn’t done, he isn’t being given a chance to even get going, he’s being played one week and not the other….

 

And Hamza hasn’t worked? What are you on about, it’s his natural position, he isn’t a RB, he can’t play there….. Hamza hasn’t worked proven at this level he is capable of playing in the CDM role. 
 

And Daka a smart move? Have you watched him? Page played  ball in behind for him, and he just lost a physical battle. Daka is dreadful, it’s got nothing to do with playing balls for him, because he can do **** all with it when he gets there. 
 

There were alternative decisions he shouldn’t have made that he didn’t, there was moving smart about it….. it was poor management. 

 

[BKLFox]

22 minutes ago, Katy said:

That was a hideous second half. How we managed to hang on, I’ve no idea. 

Probably hung on due to the keeper who’s getting a slating in his thread 🤷‍♂️ 

[Kierzz]

It was screaming out to do 5 at the back or 5 across midfield from about 50mins to get tighter to them in the wider channels.

 

Yet he makes that change after we have conceded the second goal when it is too late. Terrible in game tactics and substitutions....which is the story every match

[Claridge]

8 minutes ago, splinterdream said:

He had a barrage in the second half and he had quite a few superb saves, he kept us in it for the draw, Vestegaard at fault for second 

made saves that all keepers would make and the first was shocking and should have saved the other. makes to many mistakes that costs goals.doesnt seem to have the concentration required from a good keeper

[oxtonfox]

1 minute ago, Edingleyfox said:

When you look at the bench very little experience. We don’t know what is happening with Winks or Ricardo but needed them in the second half. Very odd taking James off unless he was carrying an injury 

I’m guessing it must have been an injury unless for some oddball reason he thought we’d hold on and be able to save our best player for Ipswich. 

[Noahfence]

Thomas just doesn’t have the physicality for this level. It’s like his body never developed past 14 

[GorlestonFox]

1 minute ago, Edingleyfox said:

When you look at the bench very little experience. We don’t know what is happening with Winks or Ricardo but needed them in the second half. Very odd taking James off unless he was carrying an injury 

James was absolutely pooped.

 

He needed to come off, but it shouldn't have been Daka

 

Should have either moved Hamza into midfield or use Page or Ricky P

 

Bringing Daka on when our midfield was getting over run? Come on man

 

[Analysethis]

1 minute ago, HankMarvin said:

There job would be nice 

 

Have we seen any fight backs from 2-0? 
 

Does he seem to instill any grit or determination, do we ever see the team rallying to win points or always come up short when losing.

They play like a reflection of his demeanour passive 

I dont know if you saw that Darts thing on Skysports before the Deby game with JJ, Nelson and Luke T? When I was watching it I looked at them three young lads, largely shy and not much personality. You can see that on the pitch with our team. No real leaders, no real personality.

 

I remember the numerous times Sky ended up at our training down talking to our mob in the prem and you had characters like Vards and Albrighton looking confident and cheeky. Same when the likes of Huth or Fuchs was on TV. The current team are too disingaged to win games like tonight. Hazma who should be a leader isnt. Vestegard with all that experience, poor. Overall we get what we deserve. Our group is full of wantaway donkeys who do not play for the shirt (Winks, Soumare, Kritensen etc), moaners (just watch Ayew and Mavididis body language) and some talented kids who we are talking up like they are the next Peles. 

 

Lets get a reality check, our squad isnt good enough, our best player is a loanee and our other old boy purchases in the summer were desperation deals.

 

Lets see what Martis like with a decent transfer window behind him.

[Lcfcwigstonblue]

Who thought letting Iversen go was a good idea at the club?

[Nods]

7 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

It’s the championship.

its relative to the shit your up against 

 

Saints thought that

Sheff united thought that 

Millwall are 7 points ahead with a decent manager 

Qpr in 7th 

stop with the poor squad shit 

 

 

We don't have a single striker who can be trusted. 

 

Luke Thomas doesn't get into any other 11 in the league. 

 

Our wingers, outside of our 11, are experiencing their first full seasons at this level. 

 

Now that Soumare (who we all rate so highly on here) is out, we have genuinely no viable backup midfielder capable of completing a 5 yard pass.

 

I was stupid enough to think we'd challenge this season and came to my senses 2 games in. I'm sorry you haven't made the same realisation yet. 

 

Marti isn't the answer, but we're also the absolute pits.