Gary Rowett

[ClaphamFox]

33 minutes ago, Gamble92 said:

Just baffles me Okoli is constantly linked with Europa League teams. We know Faes ended up at a champions league team but at least you can see they are (wrongly) going after a player who fits the world obsession with playing from the back. 

 

The worst part about our decline is watching all these players jump to teams in top divisions. Even worse when they suddenly put a shift in. If that doesn't show you where the culture at our club is at then nothing will. 

 

 

It’s for this reason that I was in favour of appointing Rowett and I think he’ll do well for us. It should be clear to anybody who has paid attention over the past few years that there is a serious culture problem at the club. This dates back to the second half of Rodgers’ time with us and was the downfall of Cooper, RVN and Cifuentes. Only Maresca had enough about him to override it temporarily, and he’s won the Club World Cup and is probably going to be Man City’s next manager. We were fortunate to have him for a year on his ascent to the top.  

 

I don’t think Rowett is another Maresca, but I do get the sense that he has the authority and confidence to impose his will on the squad regardless of the shitshow going on above him. This is what we need: a manager who sets high standards and understands football players well enough to make them believe in themselves. In this sense he reminds me a little of Pearson. I wasn’t always Pearson’s biggest fan as I thought he was tactically limited and that cost us at crucial moments, but there is no doubt that he was a great man manager who created a very strong squad culture—I can’t remember us ever moaning about a lack of effort when he was at the club.

 

It’s possible that the new technical director and CEO will help to restore some of the professionalism that we have so badly lacked in recent years. Let’s hope so. But in the meantime, I think an old-school manager like Rowett is exactly what we need to get out of the mess we’re in.

Edited 23 February by ClaphamFox

[Muzzy_no7]

51 minutes ago, Gamble92 said:

The shit Vestegaard has got at times has been completely unwarranted and he's a much better defender than Okoli.

 

Plus he can actual pass a football.

I wouldn’t say it’s unwarranted but certainly yes, Vesty is both a better defender and footballer than Okoli. 
 

EDIT: I think most were just fed up of Faes and Vesty playing below par and thought Okoli would excel and develop in the championship.

 

He was highly rated and performed well at Atalanta in a 3. 

Edited 23 February by Muzzy_no7

[Gamble92]

2 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

It’s for this reason that I was in favour of appointing Rowett and I think he’ll do well for us. It should be clear to anybody who has paid attention over the past few years that there is a serious culture problem at the club. This dates back to the second half of Rodgers’ time with us and was the downfall of Cooper, RVN and Cifuentes. Only Maresca had enough about him to override it temporarily, and he’s won the Club World Cup and is probably going to be Man City’s next manager. We were fortunate to have him for a year on his ascent to the top.  

 

I don’t think Rowett is another Maresca, but I do get the sense that he has the authority and confidence to impose his will on the squad regardless of the shitshow going on above him. This is what we need: a manager who sets high standards and understands football players well enough to make them believe in themselves. In this sense he reminds me a little of Pearson. I wasn’t always Pearson’s biggest fan as I thought he was tactically limited and that cost us at crucial moments, but there is no doubt that he was a great man manager who created a very strong squad culture—I can’t remember us ever moaning about a lack of effort when he was at the club.

 

It’s possible that the new technical director and CEO will help to restore some of the professionalism that we have so badly lacked in recent years. Let’s hope so. But in the meantime, I think an old-school manager like Rowett is exactly what we need to get out of the mess we’re in.

Absolutely. It's almost comparable to the man management you need at international level. The talent I have no doubt is there but the motivation, culture and basics are lacking. Marti coming in being quite a likeable guy with a philosophy was everything Top wanted but everything we didn't need for where we are at.

 

I had plenty of issues with Maresca's philosophy but what it's undeniable is the way the players bought into him and his ideas. The respect was instantly there, as it was for Rodgers with a different group who needed that. 

 

The bar is that low that getting them to run more would be a start. 

[Pita]

With no CEO and technical director not starting until summer Rowett is very much on his own. Talk about having your hands tied behind your back 

[Gamble92]

2 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

I wouldn’t say it’s unwarranted but certainly yes, Vesty is both a better defender and footballer than Okoli. 

I don't think it's unwarranted all the time, that's why I said at times. He's put in much better performances than his replacements and got harsher treatment in my opinion. 

 

The fight he shown in that Derby second half alone to get us the points was more than I've seen from any other defender. 

 

Nelson is seriously questionable at the minute but I'm willing to believe the fans who've seen enough of him to believe that will change. But if he's refusing to sign a new contract I won't lose any sleep as it stands.

[Finnegan]

2 minutes ago, Pita said:

With no CEO and technical director not starting until summer Rowett is very much on his own. Talk about having your hands tied behind your back 

 

... what help would you normally expect a CEO and Technical Director to provide to a short term interim head coach that's got just over 10 games to keep a club up in a relegation contest? 

 

Rowett has everything he's going to get, regardless of who the other club staff are. 

 

[Foxin_Mad]

The annoying thing will be if Rowett keeps us up in my opinion he should get the job, to be honest if he shows significant progress he should probably also get the job.

 

What I fear is bringing in a Man City sporting director shows that at the first opportunity we will be bringing in another soft as **** tippy tappy clown manager. Something no one has asked for and the reason we are so shit. We are not Man City, we are never going to be Man City, we will never have players good enough to play like Man City. 

[Pita]

2 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

... what help would you normally expect a CEO and Technical Director to provide to a short term interim head coach that's got just over 10 games to keep a club up in a relegation contest? 

 

Rowett has everything he's going to get, regardless of who the other club staff are. 

 

With his only help is Rudkin who’s is totally useless. So he’s got no one to talk to. And if he keeps us up most probably he will get the job full time. So scouting for new players next season down the our rubbish we got at the moment. Putting us under big pressure for next season 

[funkyrobot]

39 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

I wouldn’t say it’s unwarranted but certainly yes, Vesty is both a better defender and footballer than Okoli. 
 

EDIT: I think most were just fed up of Faes and Vesty playing below par and thought Okoli would excel and develop in the championship.

 

He was highly rated and performed well at Atalanta in a 3. 

It’s a bit much to say he performed well at Atalanta, he only played for the first team 17 times and was loaned out 3 of the 4 years he was with them. The 17 appearances only coming when he was used sporadically in 2022. We signed him after he had finished a season long loan at Frosinone. Frosinone were relegated that season. He could be looking at 3 relegations in 3 years. Based on what I’ve seen of him, I’m not surprised relegation follows him! 

Edited 23 February by funkyrobot

[l444ry]

30 minutes ago, Foxin_Mad said:

The annoying thing will be if Rowett keeps us up in my opinion he should get the job, to be honest if he shows significant progress he should probably also get the job.

 

What I fear is bringing in a Man City sporting director shows that at the first opportunity we will be bringing in another soft as **** tippy tappy clown manager. Something no one has asked for and the reason we are so shit. We are not Man City, we are never going to be Man City, we will never have players good enough to play like Man City. 

Sad thing is that Man City have evolved from that horrendous spectacle. If the club do go down that route (Russell Martin type) then we'll be late to the party again. Nothing new there then, given the snails pace they move at with everything else. 

[ceebeefox]

After listening to his post match interview he sounds the sort of man who anyone would play for, that was the first interview from a Leicester manager that’s roused me since Claudio.

Hope he keeps us up and gets us up again, he deserves a better side to coach than the ones he usually has, I get the impression that he’s rubbing his hands thinking he can get these lot working.

[Chrysalis]

History has shown us again and again possession doesnt win you games, its interesting that even a manager such as Gary has decided to focus on that and bring Winks back in.  Its brave, but lets hope it works out.

[CloudFox]

4 minutes ago, Chrysalis said:

History has shown us again and again possession doesnt win you games, its interesting that even a manager such as Gary has decided to focus on that and bring Winks back in.  Its brave, but lets hope it works out.

I can't remember the exact quote, but when he was talking about that, he effectively admitted by omission that we need to play that way because we are incapable off the ball. I don't think it's the way he wants us to play, but he's identified that our shape and structure is shite off the ball. That may be what former managers have seen too, but he's the first to call it out as necessary rather than "the right way to play". I can respect that.

[Claridge]

5 hours ago, Gamble92 said:

I don't think it's unwarranted all the time, that's why I said at times. He's put in much better performances than his replacements and got harsher treatment in my opinion. 

 

The fight he shown in that Derby second half alone to get us the points was more than I've seen from any other defender. 

 

Nelson is seriously questionable at the minute but I'm willing to believe the fans who've seen enough of him to believe that will change. But if he's refusing to sign a new contract I won't lose any sleep as it stands.

Vesty is much better than Nelson at the moment and he isn’t great.Seen nothing in Nelson so far, heard plenty, but not seen it

[Chrysalis]

Cloudfox reply (since claridge posted), Its similar to comments I have made as well, I have noticed when we have upper hand in games and are actually trying to score, we dont usually concede, the problems come when we sit back.

Edited 23 February by Chrysalis

[Nolucklcfc]

Depending how it goes, even if we go down we could do worse than Rowett. 

[HankMarvin]

50 minutes ago, Chrysalis said:

Winks back in.  Its brave

Why is it brave? He is on a shit ton of money, he was probably excluded in the hope of forcing him out seeking a transfer. That didn’t happen so any manager at this point would be a bit naive to not select one of the most experienced players in the squad, let alone a new manager that’s come in and can use the old “it’s a fresh slate” to get him onside 

[ClaphamFox]

6 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

Why is it brave? He is on a shit ton of money, he was probably excluded in the hope of forcing him out seeking a transfer. That didn’t happen so any manager at this point would be a bit naive to not select one of the most experienced players in the squad, let alone a new manager that’s come in and can use the old “it’s a fresh slate” to get him onside 

It’s not brave. It’s a new manager looking at the players at his disposal and picking the best 11 as he sees it. Which is exactly how it should be. 

[Bergen fox]

1 hour ago, Claridge said:

Vesty is much better than Nelson at the moment and he isn’t great.Seen nothing in Nelson so far, heard plenty, but not seen it

Agree Nelson looks average at best.

[Gazza M]

6 hours ago, Foxin_Mad said:

The annoying thing will be if Rowett keeps us up in my opinion he should get the job, to be honest if he shows significant progress he should probably also get the job.

 

What I fear is bringing in a Man City sporting director shows that at the first opportunity we will be bringing in another soft as **** tippy tappy clown manager. Something no one has asked for and the reason we are so shit. We are not Man City, we are never going to be Man City, we will never have players good enough to play like Man City. 

Find it bizarre we won the league playing some of the most exciting football on the break. 30-40% possession. Why that couldn't stay as our signature way of playing I dont know. 

[David Hankey]

2 minutes ago, Gazza M said:

Find it bizarre we won the league playing some of the most exciting football on the break. 30-40% possession. Why that couldn't stay as our signature way of playing I dont know. 

Simply because we haven't the calibre of talent now.

 

The majority of players seem resigned to the fact we're going to get relegated so why bother.

 

Remember, when we won the league every player played with pride and passion, that has gone now.

[adam95581]

1 minute ago, Gazza M said:

Find it bizarre we won the league playing some of the most exciting football on the break. 30-40% possession. Why that couldn't stay as our signature way of playing I dont know. 

It’s not sustainable. If it was then more teams would be happy to surrender possession, chances etc. It’s draining (physically and mentally). 
 

We were fortunate that we had a set of defenders who loved defending and a freak in Vardy who had a better conversion rate than anyone else on the league. 

[Foxin_Mad]

1 hour ago, CloudFox said:

I can't remember the exact quote, but when he was talking about that, he effectively admitted by omission that we need to play that way because we are incapable off the ball. I don't think it's the way he wants us to play, but he's identified that our shape and structure is shite off the ball. That may be what former managers have seen too, but he's the first to call it out as necessary rather than "the right way to play". I can respect that.

It’s interesting that considering we are supposedly so good in possession that we have spent so much time sitting back at letting teams come at us, especially when taking the league, bizarre imo. 

[BrilliantFox]

7 hours ago, Gamble92 said:

Just baffles me Okoli is constantly linked with Europa League teams.

Europa? He's linked with Champions League teams 

[Gamble92]

6 minutes ago, BrilliantFox said:

Europa? He's linked with Champions League teams 

Make it stop