Gary Rowett

[Ian Nacho]

May as well kept Marti. Waste of time. 

[when_you're_smiling]

8 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said:

How is no manager capable of getting this team to play 

Well how would you?

 

The defence is just not very good as the basis. Rowett’s made us more difficult to beat but at the expense of attacking. The problem is, that just highlights all the other problems.

 

The players were signed to pass through teams but they’re not very good at it. The lack of height is a huge issue in both boxes and means attempts to be more direct lead to the ball just coming back.

 

You can have a high press but only if you play Daka for every minute for every game and I’m not sure how effective Madvidii and Fatawu are at that anyway. Certainly don’t think the midfield without James can and he’s been mostly missing through injury for what feels like half the season now.

 

All sides have to do is pack the middle, keep the wingers quiet (not difficult this season) and wait for us to make a mistake or concede from a set piece which we’re always likely to do. 

 

Yeah some different formations would be a start but there’s so much fundamentally wrong with the group of players he’s been lumbered with.

[jim5000]

22 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said:

How is no manager capable of getting this team to play 

The slow, pass it round at the back while the opposition sets themselves, possession based style is too ingrained in the squad.

 

Needs a complete reset, the likes of Vestergaard binned off, and a new style embedding that isn’t based off Man City tactics from a decade ago, without the players to play it

[Blue.Fox84]

Early signs looked promising, there seems to be a bit more aggression, structure and game management so I would say that getting him in was a positive 

 

1. The club was too long finding a replacement for some important fixtures 

2. We were building up some momentum until the club decided to invite Enzo and his staff down

 

That being said, after then is on Rowett and we’ve simply not been good enough. Nobody can manage this group of players under an absolute circus of a club 

[David Hankey]

Our plight is not the manager's fault.

 

After watching today's performance it is obvious we have too many carthorses on the pitich and far too many just going through the motions to keep their big fat salaries coming in.

[Dmitry]

3 hours ago, Gav_LCFC14 said:

Same players, same formation, same tactic.

Also,  same stick of gum. 
To be a manger of two teams that will be relegated in the same season, from the same league!

He is heading for the Guinness Book of Records! 
 

[Paninistickers]

9 minutes ago, when_you're_smiling said:

All sides have to do is pack the middle

You've just answered your own question. 

 

Playing 2 in midfield for the last 80 odd games has crucified us. 

 

I recall doing my nut at cooper who had two consecutive reasonable early season performances v Villa and Palace with the Wilf-Winks-Skipp triumvirate and abandoned it. 

 

We've played 2 in the middle ever since and it's a oeice of piss for inferior teams to bully us (except Derby) 

[when_you're_smiling]

1 minute ago, Paninistickers said:

You've just answered your own question. 

 

Playing 2 in midfield for the last 80 odd games has crucified us. 

 

I recall doing my nut at cooper who had two consecutive reasonable early season performances v Villa and Palace with the Wilf-Winks-Skipp triumvirate and abandoned it. 

 

We've played 2 in the middle ever since and it's a oeice of piss for inferior teams to bully us (except Derby) 

N’Didi is the big miss here. There’s two in the middle because there’s no protection for the defence. One would get bullied even more. 

[Tom12345]

11 minutes ago, jim5000 said:

The slow, pass it round at the back while the opposition sets themselves, possession based style is too ingrained in the squad.

 

Needs a complete reset, the likes of Vestergaard binned off, and a new style embedding that isn’t based off Man City tactics from a decade ago, without the players to play it

Absolutely!

 

And what I hate the most is the team always waiting for bloody Thomas or Ricardo to take the throw-ins even if there is another player right next to the ball, allowing the opposition to set themselves up. Why why why? This has been ingrained in the team since Rodgers but it is so stupid. Why never take the quick throw-in.

 

Also, instead of chesting down high balls, we always hoops it up and then we give possession away. It is like the team is afraid of playing.

[HankMarvin]

18 minutes ago, when_you're_smiling said:

Yeah some different formations would be a start but there’s so much fundamentally wrong with the group of players he’s been lumbered with

They way you speak about them it’s amazing they was 4th after 10 games in October and 14th when Marti was sacked.

its like they have never been capable of winning a game 

Edited 18 April by HankMarvin

[Tom12345]

1 minute ago, when_you're_smiling said:

N’Didi is the big miss here. There’s two in the middle because there’s no protection for the defence. One would get bullied even more. 

No.

 

Our team on paper are full of Premier League quality players. It is the lack of organisation that is the problem.

 

 

[Paninistickers]

3 minutes ago, when_you're_smiling said:

N’Didi is the big miss here. There’s two in the middle because there’s no protection for the defence. One would get bullied even more. 

A flat middle three of hamza Skipp winks JJ page and even Ricky or Soumare or vestergaard at a push would be at the very worst average at this level. 

 

But nope, thou shalt play 2

 

Edit; remember the Lennon, izzet, taylor parker then savage trio that ripped into PL midfields? It was fundamental 

Edited 18 April by Paninistickers

[when_you're_smiling]

1 minute ago, HankMarvin said:

They way you speak about them it’s amazing they was 4th in October and 14th when Marti was sacked.

its like they have never been capable of winning a game 

Yep, when everyone was saying it wouldn’t last because we were relying on wonder strikes. There’s a reason for that.

[TrickyTrevLeftPeg]

2 minutes ago, when_you're_smiling said:

N’Didi is the big miss here. There’s two in the middle because there’s no protection for the defence. One would get bullied even more. 

I agree entirely. Every team needs a big presence. A ball winner. We have skipp and winks. We never replaced Ndidi. Yes we need a striker we all know that but not replacing ndidi was criminal 

[ConnFoxUS]

23 minutes ago, murphy said:

You think we could attract a half-decent manager? Rowett is our level now. 

I think you missed my point. 
 

We are where we are not because of this manger, or even the few before him…it’s the decision maker(s) above that have us in this mess. One manager can’t make a Picasso out of 4 year old’s gooey snot rag. 

[Legend_in_blue]

He's an extremely poor manager for not at least trying to shake up the way the team plays.

 

He's basically Stowell/Sadler v3 - the extended version, following King (aka Stowell/Sadler v2).

 

 

He needs to go in 3 games time.

[Pliskin]

Bloke basically admitted that they’ve given up last week. ****ing sack him, let hear cųnts face the last few games themselves.

[Ross 'LCFC' Turner]

Just when I think it’s not possible, we somehow keep appointing an even bigger idiot than the one before. 
 

 

[when_you're_smiling]

5 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

A flat middle three of hamza Skipp winks JJ page and even Ricky or Soumare or vestergaard at a push would be at the very worst average at this level. 

 

But nope, thou shalt play 2

A Christmas tree formation and not play Fatawu? I think you’d struggle with the forward being isolated, but then, as you say, there’s not reason to have not tried it.

[cropstonfox]

11 minutes ago, Tom12345 said:

No.

 

Our team on paper are full of Premier League quality players. It is the lack of organisation that is the problem.

 

 

Not one of these players could get in a premier league team.They are on premier league salaries because Rudkin was stupid enough to pay them it! The players are very poor and we've had to sell good players to keep paying them.

 

Edited 18 April by cropstonfox

[funkyrobot]

You can’t polish a turd, especially when another dried old turd is being used to polish that turd. 

[teblin]

33 minutes ago, Ian Nacho said:

May as well kept Marti. Waste of time. 

Even more so I don’t think RVN would’ve done any worse.

[when_you're_smiling]

9 minutes ago, Tom12345 said:

No.

 

Our team on paper are full of Premier League quality players. It is the lack of organisation that is the problem.

 

 

Still? Come on mate.

 

The ones who have been Premier League regulars in steady sides and who aren’t pushing 35 and over the hill are Winks and Skipp (but even then only for periods alongside much better players and never together). Oh and Luke Thomas under Rodgers. 

 

I’ll give you Jordan James as Prem quality but still don’t think he’s going to be in the Prem next season. But think Fats is the only one you can argue otherwise, and it’s more likely he moves somewhere like Turkey after the World Cup than the Premier League.

 

 

[nettle]

Another useless c**t thanks Top and Jon you've done yourselves proud 😆

[Paninistickers]

11 minutes ago, cropstonfox said:

Not one of these players could get in a premier league team.They are on premier league salaries because Rudkin was stupid enough to pay them it! The players are very poor and we've had to sell good players to keep paying them.

 

I would think twice about paying Luke Thomas and Bob Reid 30 quid to play Saturday senior level. 

 

Neither have the physical attributes. Speed or strength