League One - Who manages us?

[Broof]

28 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

I'd describe myself as open-minded rather than positive. There has been a restructure of sorts and although it has been nowhere near as extensive as we all hoped for, there are at least some new people involved in making decisions. There might be a change of direction, there might not. I'm curious to know which.

One new person. Underneath the person who ultimately makes the decisions. 

[Dan]

1 hour ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

Ok so this question of do I or anyone else who is not within the club aware of what is going on is something that seems to be asked more and more as a sort of defence mechanism for those slightly more positive out there. And there is nothing wrong with being positive, its a good mindset. However, there are also facts and reasons for those not so positive. So to answer this question once and for all - god no, I have nothing to do with the current corporate set up at Leicester City - and thank god for that, I would be embarrassed. 

 

However, to pick on your point. And I am assuming here, your positivity is linked (solely) to the appointment of this new DOF who reports into Rudkin who continues to report into Aiyawatt. He could be a breathe of fresh air, educating Aiyawatt and Rudkin and guiding us back to some sort of normality and hopefully some success (whatever that looks like for us - for me, that right now would be a team that competes at any level). Let's again look at the facts. Today is the 11th of May. The season ended on the 2nd of May. We were relegated on 21st April 2026. That's nearly 3 weeks ago. We are told, Gary Rowett was appointed on a short term deal. After we took what 3 weeks to decide/go with him. 

 

The fact this club has not thanked him for his time and wished him well before today - meaning over a week after the end of the season means either of the following:

 

1. We are following things as we have done for the last 5 years - even worse if he is in fact on a short term deal because we do not have the longer contract/compensation aspect we had with RVN; or

2. We are considering him as a candidate. 

 

Now, its anyone guess what the reason is out of those two. Me, I think its the 2nd one. Which to me is absolutely crazy. This is a manager who didnt fit the bill for our owner previously. I think the reason for that is because he doesnt have the reputation/style we are so keen to play. - its why it took 3 weeks for the club to go with him - we went with him as he has saved teams before. Improved form drastically. Neither of which he did here. Had we won 4, shown real improvement and gone down on the last day by a point - I could understand it but we didnt. There was nothing like that. Now combine that with where we are, how this club for some reason wants to play, the reluctance to appoint him etc. the fact the DOF is here and has been for the last few months - what is the reason for the delay ?

 

Has this new DOF who is now in charge of football strategy (via Rudkin, via Top - so basically the same people) been here since April ? What conversations does he need to have today or yesterday or the day before that he couldnt have two weeks ago or three weeks ago. Because if we are considering Rowett as a candidate and he has failed miserably these last few months, we are therefore him considering as part of a wider strategy - therefore, ignoring what has happened on the pitch in the last few weeks. Why are we waiting until later this week or next week or the week after or longer to put in place a basic decision like this and updating the media and fanbase. 

 

Add to that, if we are considering him - who else are we considering ? Do they all fit a similar profile to Rowett ? Because if not, surely that is the same scattergun approach as the last 3/4 years ? Smith, Enzo, Cooper, RVN, Cifeuntes, Rowett - imagine that as an algebra question - what comes next ? **** knows - that's how different each style is. 

 

If he is a proactive, influential DOF which is what we need, not hindered by an ineffective corporate structure - why is Gary Rowett still (unofficially) here - because the answers to either reason is damming and consistent with the bullshit of the last two years. Even if they announce it by magic today. 

 

As I said, been there, done this. This fella who a few are hoping comes good, is basically, a new manager for the dream of Top and Rudkin - that dream at this stage is how do we **** a football until it needs lubrication to only **** it some more. He may be very talented but the structure will **** him. 

Completely spot on. Summarised my entire feelings to a word.

[Stadt]

3 hours ago, ClaphamFox said:

But what if the club knows who it wants but is not in a position to appoint them until after the play-off situation has been resolved or the new financial year has begun?

Is there any evidence over the past 2 years they have any idea what they’re doing? Do they ever learn from mistakes?

 

We’re going into League because they’re clueless, the inaction is because they’re clueless, there is no Machiavellian plan as to why nothing is happening. Nothing is happening because they’re sclerotic and useless.

[Lesta Legend]

6 minutes ago, Stadt said:

Is there any evidence over the past 2 years they have any idea what they’re doing? Do they ever learn from mistakes?

 

We’re going into League because they’re clueless, the inaction is because they’re clueless, there is no Machiavellian plan as to why nothing is happening. Nothing is happening because they’re sclerotic and useless.

It’s rinse and repeat each year. 
 

I thought they were riding out the PSR issues a few years back, just out of hope that it would be better but it’s infuriating to watch them continually balls everything up. 
 

I imagine like always, a decision will be made once one returns from his holiday. It beggars belief this is likely true. 

[DAS Boot]

3 hours ago, ClaphamFox said:

But what if the club knows who it wants but is not in a position to appoint them until after the play-off situation has been resolved or the new financial year has begun?

They have done nothing in the last 5 years to warrant the granting of any benefit of the doubt but I do applaud you for proposing it.

[Craig]

3 hours ago, ClaphamFox said:

The problem is, while rushing to get somebody in may appease an understandably impatient fanbase, it wouldn't necessarily lead to us appointing the best candidate. Obviously the ideal scenario is that we get the best available candidate in and we do it soon, but IF the choice was between appointing a mediocre manager this week or waiting until July to appoint a very good manager, I would prefer us to do the latter.

The point is that there should never be any need to rush to appoint somebody. They should always have a plan, but history tells us that they never do.

They should have known exactly what they wanted to do in the eventually we stayed up, and exactly what they wanted to do in the eventuality we went down.

We were relegated 19 days ago and Gary Rowett is still in post. He should be nowhere near the club based on how things have gone. 

I would love to believe that they are waiting for a good manager in July, but in the past couple of seasons we have waited until the end of June/mid-July to appoint Steve Cooper and Marti Cifuentes at higher levels... 

[CarolinaFox]

The more its discussed the more I like the idea of Fuchs. We need a culture rebuild as much as a squad rebuild. On paper this team should be doing much better, but we don't play on paper and its the mental fitness, the character of the dressing room that has let us down. The grit and determination to take pride in the shirt and for the fans. Fuchs gets that. League One will be less about tactical identity than grit and grinding out results. How many of us have said this club has lost its way? Fuchs is a culture rebuilder, fan-reconnector (not a word - I know). This club are in free fall at the moment, we could benefit from the feel good energy he would bring, and I think he could get us playing well in a league where its not all about tactics, its about the mental and physic strength of the players and the manager. People didn't think too much of Kieran McKenna and now he's the prototype for what a club like Leicester would like to find, that rare diamond in the rough coach who can galvanize a squad and a rebuild the culture around a club without being so dogmatic about football philosophy. He would be cheap, there wouldn't be a long drawn out process to get him (he's on record said its his dream job), and he would give us that immediate jolt we need after a pretty rough 24 month period. 

[ClaphamFox]

17 minutes ago, Craig said:

The point is that there should never be any need to rush to appoint somebody. They should always have a plan, but history tells us that they never do.

They should have known exactly what they wanted to do in the eventually we stayed up, and exactly what they wanted to do in the eventuality we went down.

We were relegated 19 days ago and Gary Rowett is still in post. He should be nowhere near the club based on how things have gone. 

I would love to believe that they are waiting for a good manager in July, but in the past couple of seasons we have waited until the end of June/mid-July to appoint Steve Cooper and Marti Cifuentes at higher levels... 

Is he? A few reports suggested his contract ran until the last game…

[Craig]

Just now, ClaphamFox said:

Is he? A few reports suggested his contract ran until the last game…

End of the season is usually a bit after the final game, and he's said he's open to staying on... without any announcement I'd take it that they are yet to decide for sure whether he leaves or not. 

[winteriscoming]

44 minutes ago, CarolinaFox said:

The more its discussed the more I like the idea of Fuchs. We need a culture rebuild as much as a squad rebuild. On paper this team should be doing much better, but we don't play on paper and its the mental fitness, the character of the dressing room that has let us down. The grit and determination to take pride in the shirt and for the fans. Fuchs gets that. League One will be less about tactical identity than grit and grinding out results. How many of us have said this club has lost its way? Fuchs is a culture rebuilder, fan-reconnector (not a word - I know). This club are in free fall at the moment, we could benefit from the feel good energy he would bring, and I think he could get us playing well in a league where its not all about tactics, its about the mental and physic strength of the players and the manager. People didn't think too much of Kieran McKenna and now he's the prototype for what a club like Leicester would like to find, that rare diamond in the rough coach who can galvanize a squad and a rebuild the culture around a club without being so dogmatic about football philosophy. He would be cheap, there wouldn't be a long drawn out process to get him (he's on record said its his dream job), and he would give us that immediate jolt we need after a pretty rough 24 month period. 

Imo Fuchs is not the answer for next season. 
 

[CarolinaFox]

30 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

Imo Fuchs is not the answer for next season. 
 

I’m not sure there is one obvious “right” candidate here. A lot of the discussion I’m seeing is focused on who it shouldn’t be, which is fair — but it doesn’t really move us toward a solution. I’d genuinely love to hear your perspective: who do you think would be a good fit? Someone realistic for us to hire by early June, affordable, and capable of leading a proper squad rebuild. Just curious what alternative names you think actually make sense.

[winteriscoming]

6 minutes ago, CarolinaFox said:

I’m not sure there is one obvious “right” candidate here. A lot of the discussion I’m seeing is focused on who it shouldn’t be, which is fair — but it doesn’t really move us toward a solution. I’d genuinely love to hear your perspective: who do you think would be a good fit? Someone realistic for us to hire by early June, affordable, and capable of leading a proper squad rebuild. Just curious what alternative names you think actually make sense.

I’d rather we stay clear of ex players. 
King and Rowett are prime examples as to ex players not working. 
My preference if you want experience in league 1 would be Michael Duff at Wycombe or Tom Cleverly at Plymouth. 
I realize Cleverly has played for us previously but he has more experience than Fuchs. 
Dave Challinor at Stockport as well but I think they’ll go up. 
Going for the cheapest option has been our downfall the last few summers. 
We should have got Corberan in the summer Enzo went and last summer should have got Rohl. 
I’m hopeful that we will also look abroad having been linked with Schreuder. 
Fuchs wouldn’t even be under consideration if it wasn’t for him being an ex player. 

[Muzzy_no7]

Fuchs has fought a fire at Newport County for a few months, he isn’t ready.

[CarolinaFox]

12 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

I’d rather we stay clear of ex players. 
King and Rowett are prime examples as to ex players not working. 
My preference if you want experience in league 1 would be Michael Duff at Wycombe or Tom Cleverly at Plymouth. 
I realize Cleverly has played for us previously but he has more experience than Fuchs. 
Dave Challinor at Stockport as well but I think they’ll go up. 
Going for the cheapest option has been our downfall the last few summers. 
We should have got Corberan in the summer Enzo went and last summer should have got Rohl. 
I’m hopeful that we will also look abroad having been linked with Schreuder. 
Fuchs wouldn’t even be under consideration if it wasn’t for him being an ex player. 

Those are all fair options. I wouldn't be mad if we saw reports linking us with Challinor, Duff or Cleverly. Schreuder could be interesting, of the four you've listed he's by far the one with the riskier style of play. I agree, Fuchs doesn't have the pedigree on coaching merit alone, although he was Dean Smith's assistant manager at Charlotte FC for two years. I just can't help think that the cancer that's set in with this club is about low standards, and lack of grit and fight. Is there a manager who can come in on day one and really shake things up for the better? I do think Fuchs could do that, and that's why its an idea that has grown on me. I want us to win, but I also want to love this club again, and its hard when you see the junk effort being put out on the pitch and the lack of character from the squad. As a follow up: would you have a preference of one of those managers you've listed? 

[winteriscoming]

5 minutes ago, CarolinaFox said:

Those are all fair options. I wouldn't be mad if we saw reports linking us with Challinor, Duff or Cleverly. Schreuder could be interesting, of the four you've listed he's by far the one with the riskier style of play. I agree, Fuchs doesn't have the pedigree on coaching merit alone, although he was Dean Smith's assistant manager at Charlotte FC for two years. I just can't help think that the cancer that's set in with this club is about low standards, and lack of grit and fight. Is there a manager who can come in on day one and really shake things up for the better? I do think Fuchs could do that, and that's why its an idea that has grown on me. I want us to win, but I also want to love this club again, and its hard when you see the junk effort being put out on the pitch and the lack of character from the squad. As a follow up: would you have a preference of one of those managers you've listed? 

Schreuder. 
But I’d be happy with Challinor. 
Duff gives off Pearson type vibes as he won’t take any shit and that’s something we need. 

[Filbert Fireworks]

Scenes when Wayne Rooney rocks up in his sliders and a can of Stella. 

[teblin]

29 minutes ago, CarolinaFox said:

Those are all fair options. I wouldn't be mad if we saw reports linking us with Challinor, Duff or Cleverly. Schreuder could be interesting, of the four you've listed he's by far the one with the riskier style of play. I agree, Fuchs doesn't have the pedigree on coaching merit alone, although he was Dean Smith's assistant manager at Charlotte FC for two years. I just can't help think that the cancer that's set in with this club is about low standards, and lack of grit and fight. Is there a manager who can come in on day one and really shake things up for the better? I do think Fuchs could do that, and that's why its an idea that has grown on me. I want us to win, but I also want to love this club again, and its hard when you see the junk effort being put out on the pitch and the lack of character from the squad. As a follow up: would you have a preference of one of those managers you've listed? 

Cleverly might be on the list, with stowell being with him too.

[Tuna]

Manning left Huddersfield, you'd imagine we'd be interested.

Edited 11 May by Tuna

[fox_favourite]

10 minutes ago, Tuna said:

Manning left Huddersfield, you'd imagine we'd be interested.

Last 2 jobs not gone well for him. 

[winteriscoming]

Alves will have worked with Manning last season. 
I can see us going for Manning. 
Hope we don’t but I’m sure we will. 

[FoxinNotts]

2 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

Alves will have worked with Manning last season. 
I can see us going for Manning. 
Hope we don’t but I’m sure we will. 

Alves was hardly a Manning favourite 

[teblin]

Think he’s in a very tough place manning. With the tragic loss of his child.
 

Heart goes out to him, but the kind of pain that heals not very quickly 

Edited 11 May by teblin

[winteriscoming]

We are so reactive as a club rather than being proactive. 
They will wait and hope Davies or Robins leave their teams and try and get 1 of them or anyone else in a similar situation. 
Once we get turned down by numerous coaches we’ll end up with someone no one else wants like Rowett. 
Instead of identifying a target even if they are at another club and paying the compensation. 
They will never learn and history will repeat itself this summer like previous summers with Corberan and Rohl. 

[TJB-fox]

56 minutes ago, Tuna said:

Manning left Huddersfield, you'd imagine we'd be interested.

Don’t think he’s in a fit state to be working to be honest, think he needs some time away from he game.

[Guppys Love Child]

Played about with AI asking to find our next manager.

League One experience, promotion success, no nonsense, happy to use youth and promote them, fine working on a budget, and not hell bent on making us into a Clone of Man City with that snooze fest possession based cr@p..

 

Out of 10..

1. Neil Critchley — 9/10  
2. Michael Duff — 8.5/10  
3. Darren Ferguson — 8/10  
4. Liam Manning — 7.5/10  
5. Leam Richardson — 7/10  
6. Grant McCann — 6.5/10

 

Not sure how I feel about the list and who I'd want..