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20 minutes ago, Foxin_Mad said:

Let’s be clear here the main reason we got relegated was Cifuentes, not more than 2/3 games did he put out a team that deserved/earned 3 points. He got a lot of lucky James/Fatawu goals. 
 

Everything was awful and getting worse under him. As we left it too late and dithered, that cost us again. 
 

The reason overall is the dithering ineptitude of Rudkin which appears to be happening again. I fully expect an appointment in July sometime. 

Change July for August and you are spot on.

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Posted
7 hours ago, Foxin_Mad said:

Let’s be clear here the main reason we got relegated was Cifuentes, not more than 2/3 games did he put out a team that deserved/earned 3 points. He got a lot of lucky James/Fatawu goals. 
 

Everything was awful and getting worse under him. As we left it too late and dithered, that cost us again. 
 

The reason overall is the dithering ineptitude of Rudkin which appears to be happening again. I fully expect an appointment in July sometime. 

Wasn’t Rowetts PPG about the same as Marti? And the last game of season was some dead rubber against Bburn which he won, 1 of only 2 wins under him I think?

 

I was all for Rowett but I’m not having him as some great manager who was up against it back against the wall, he had plenty of games and chances to keep us up, the Preston and Sheff Weds ones were a disgrace to not get 4-6 points there. 
 

Marti did have some luck though that perhaps Gary didn’t I’ll give you that, some penalty misses and open goal misses that were criminal. 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

Wasn’t Rowetts PPG about the same as Marti? And the last game of season was some dead rubber against Bburn which he won, 1 of only 2 wins under him I think?

 

I was all for Rowett but I’m not having him as some great manager who was up against it back against the wall, he had plenty of games and chances to keep us up, the Preston and Sheff Weds ones were a disgrace to not get 4-6 points there. 
 

Marti did have some luck though that perhaps Gary didn’t I’ll give you that, some penalty misses and open goal misses that were criminal. 

I, like you, thought Rowett would be alright and do the job. He massively disappointed and shouldn’t be in the job next season. He has proven he is no good with youth as well which is what we need.

 

I agree with you that he had none of the luck Marti did and missed James for most of his time. 
 

I wonder where by the time he joined, even thought xG improved, we were creating chances and did at least keep a few clean sheets in the end, whether the period with Marti’s last couple of games and King’s time in charge just finished the team off mentally. Before that, we did pick up some results but back to back home defeats to Charlton and Oxford and the capitulation against Southampton would likely have just broken any kind of hope. 
 

But they don’t deserve any excuses making. They could have pulled up the win against Bristol City with another against a QPR side in awful form at the time. Preston were there for the taking, 2 goals right before half time after an early lead, Watford were, missed penalty, going behind after 2 minutes against Wednesday. So many chances to pick up the points required.

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Posted
52 minutes ago, trooky said:

All the signs are we'll make the same mistakes as last pre-season going into the championship. 

 

I don't understand the lack of communication from the club and indecisiveness. 

 

We should have made a statement after the Blackburn game, thanked Rowett for his service and wish him well for the future so at least the fans know we're looking for a new manager. 

 

Instead we have this void, Rowett talking in after game  interviews how he would like the job full time etc..... 

 

Ground hog day again that ends in relegation to league 2🤔 

The club is ran akin to Trotters Independant Traders.

 

When the man Rudkin goes off for their 4 week all inclusive holiday to the Carribean, his phone is off and nothing gets done.

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Posted
3 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

Wasn’t Rowetts PPG about the same as Marti? And the last game of season was some dead rubber against Bburn which he won, 1 of only 2 wins under him I think?

 

I was all for Rowett but I’m not having him as some great manager who was up against it back against the wall, he had plenty of games and chances to keep us up, the Preston and Sheff Weds ones were a disgrace to not get 4-6 points there. 
 

Marti did have some luck though that perhaps Gary didn’t I’ll give you that, some penalty misses and open goal misses that were criminal. 

Marti set the rot and wasted time with his clean slate nonsense. Playing the same players exactly the same way that got us relegated. Gary just continued it, playing the same players exactly the same way that got us in the relegation battle. 
 

The coaches have way more to answer to than those two clown managers.  They have mismanaged them with fitness, training, attitudes, tactics, improving players and correcting mistakes. 

 

Of course it all comes from above. Paying money for Ayew and signing Skipp going Thomas a new contract should be investigated for industrial sabotage. 

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Posted (edited)
26 minutes ago, adamkhalifa said:

Please no more BTEC, Pepball coaches please. 

I still can't look past David Challinor. Incredible record and the right guy for the lower league. 

Even if Stockport get promoted. I think he would jump. I believe, he has one year left on his contract. 

Let the manager manage. Top, should let the new director do his thing. Rudkin, just needs to make sure we have enough paper, in the fax macine. 

We would need to move on most of this current first team squad, because they won't respect someone like him.

 

They all consider themselves better than the level they've taken us too🤔.

 

If that happens then Challinor would be a good shout, he's managed over 800 games, done well at every club and knows League 1.

 

He would probably jump at the chance to manager Leicester having spent his entire playing and managerial career in the lower leagues. 

 

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

Ruud, Marti, Kingy and Rowett have all called out the culture at the club, the only hope is the club can move on most / all of the high earners and bad eggs and start again with a whole new strategy. 
 

The hierarchy need to stop being so naive offering lucrative long term contracts and move to a more sustainable performance based model that focus on recruiting young hungry players and offering them a genuine pathway to develop their careers. 
 

There also needs to be step away from the current situation where certain players seem to have a direct line to the Owner completely undermining the role of the manager. It has to change now and the manager given the opportunity to stamp his authority, standards and culture on the club, and any dissenters are told to feck off and not be enabled by a starry eyed owner who wants to be best mates with willy pullers like Winksy. 


The culture of the club is Aiyatwatt and Rudkin get rid of these clowns and maybe we can move upwards again.

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Posted
21 hours ago, cityfanlee23 said:


The first big quality is that he's FREE lol 32 games, 9 goals 6 assists. (33/10/7 in all comps)
He's sort of a box to box midfielder but he's definitely more attack minded, he has played mainly as a CM but has also slotted into CAM behind the striker a few times, so he usually picks up play in the middle and drives forward.
He's quite a tidy player, he often manages to get himself out of positions where he's surrounded by players and is comfortable in those tight  spaces. 
25 years old.

His Key stats (per 90): 
- 0.32 goals, which is elite for a midfielder, works out 15+ goals per season over 46 games
- 0.22xg, which shows he's consistently in goalscoring positions
- 2.77 touches in the opponents box 
- 1.93 chances created per 90 
- combined 0.59 xG+xA per 90, so he's got a 60% chance of scoring or assisting each game. 


In League One I think he would be a cheat code. I can see him going to a championship club, but he is a wassermann client so maybe there could be something to come from that?

Obligatory video showing only the best parts of his game: 

 

Thanks for the info.  We definitely need someone with drive in the midfield, but are also lacking someone with a strong tackle and a desire to win the ball and pick up second balls.

Posted
10 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

Wasn’t Rowetts PPG about the same as Marti? And the last game of season was some dead rubber against Bburn which he won, 1 of only 2 wins under him I think?

 

I was all for Rowett but I’m not having him as some great manager who was up against it back against the wall, he had plenty of games and chances to keep us up, the Preston and Sheff Weds ones were a disgrace to not get 4-6 points there. 
 

Marti did have some luck though that perhaps Gary didn’t I’ll give you that, some penalty misses and open goal misses that were criminal. 

Rowett was a massive let down yes, but I think there was a rot in this club, set in from months of poor coaching from Cifuentes, maybe a bit of it stems from bad preparation but a lot comes from the atrocious style, inability to set up a defensive unit. It’s basic football. It’s was like trying to stop the titanic from sinking, a difficult task. It was too little too late. I feel if Rowett had 4/6 more dames we may have stayed up. It was clear to me before Christmas where Cifuentes was taking us, I don’t buy the ppg bullshit as I saw the performances with my eyes, bar 2 or 3 games we deserved to lose every game under him. 

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Posted
8 hours ago, Lesta2014 said:

A week on and no news again, feels like the start of last summer all over again. 

Getting on for 3 since we were relegated too.

Posted

The longer there is no "thank you and goodbye" for Rowett, the longer I think he might actually be under consideration.

 

I get hedging your bets, but...it's been 3 weeks since we were relegated. The second that happened, we should have started looking. At the latest.

Posted (edited)
42 minutes ago, Samilktray said:

Cifuentes was no better or worse than Gary Rowett. I’m sorry to tell you this. 

He was worse because he had 2/3rds of the season, a period where he managed to firmly set us as one of the worst sides in the division in many key metrics like clean sheets, pressing, distance covered, recoveries etc. All things that showed our direction of travel. While I agree they were both bad Cifuenrmtes is by far the worst manager we have ever had. I’m sure Rudkin is working on that though

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Posted

Mad I know but I wouldn't be against Kingy getting the gig, the first half against Southampton at home was the best football we'd played for a couple of years.......the second half however :nigel:

Posted
9 hours ago, trooky said:

We would need to move on most of this current first team squad, because they won't respect someone like him.

 

They all consider themselves better than the level they've taken us too🤔.

 

If that happens then Challinor would be a good shout, he's managed over 800 games, done well at every club and knows League 1.

 

He would probably jump at the chance to manager Leicester having spent his entire playing and managerial career in the lower leagues. 

 

 

I agree with this and think Challinor would suit us.

Out of interest, in terms of first teamers that will be left, who do you worry wouldn’t respect him?? I can only see a handful of the senior pros being left here as most will look to force a move

Posted
29 minutes ago, CloudFox said:

The longer there is no "thank you and goodbye" for Rowett, the longer I think he might actually be under consideration.

 

I get hedging your bets, but...it's been 3 weeks since we were relegated. The second that happened, we should have started looking. At the latest.

Yeah surely if they’ve told him he ain’t getting it, it would have been leaked. In all likelihood, they probably haven’t spoken to him yet. 

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