Popular Post when_you're_smiling Posted 17 August Popular Post Posted 17 August 15 minutes ago, 1884HF said: we are quite literally watching the club in its LOWEST Position in history, no one has seen it worse and were here because of the same characters on the pitch and behind the scenes a little booing should be expected if we were a proper club there would be protests in the west stand and after games there would be groups waiting like after the hull game - they should expect booing and they should be expected to perform regardless The only players on the pitch on Saturday who played in previous seasons were BDCR, Thomas, Skipp, Okoli and the injury hit Souttar plus Choudhury off the bench. The other nine that featured had nothing to do with that position. If the likes of Braybrooke or Alves walked up to you and said ‘why are you booing me?’ what would you say to them? 6
Dames Posted 17 August Posted 17 August 11 minutes ago, fkas said: People aren't emotionless. If your customers heckled, swore and booed you every time you presented your work to them you'd feel demotivated pretty swiftly. In theory the amount of money they are being paid should soften the blow but let's be realistic that's not how it is. It's two bad seasons for us but for the youngsters who are getting their first shot and the new signings it's game one. No but if i consistently performed badly my customers wouldnt want to pay me and would tell me in no uncertain terms that my work performance isnt good enough and they would have every right too. I keep repeating myself but the wider context is that the entire future of this club hinges on these players performing and getting results. The time for patience is over, standards need to be high. 2
Popular Post ourla Posted 17 August Popular Post Posted 17 August Apart from the odd wum/idiot/prankster nobody would call for Martin to be sacked at this point. I think (based on his career thus far allied with our incompetent owner/CFO) he will be a failure but it's inevitable he will get at least 10/12 games. The hope is that by then we have a new owner lined up and we can look forward to a total reset. 7
adam1 Posted 17 August Posted 17 August 28 minutes ago, ourla said: Apart from the odd wum/idiot/prankster nobody would call for Martin to be sacked at this point. I think (based on his career thus far allied with our incompetent owner/CFO) he will be a failure but it's inevitable he will get at least 10/12 games too many. The hope is that by then we have a new owner lined up and we can look forward to a total reset. Fixed it for you. Always a pleasure.😇
Raj Posted 17 August Posted 17 August Gotta give the tw@t atleast 15 games. Clubs ran shockingly which we all know, no decent manager is jumping up and down to join us this is as good as it gets unless we are all really deluded thinking we can get a premier league standard manager. This is a rebuild of all rebuilds. I dont even think it's the low point yet. 1
Popular Post Foxin_Mad Posted 17 August Popular Post Posted 17 August (edited) I actually thought most of the young players were decent at the weekend, its the senior pros that let us down. Braybrooke, Alves, Joseph were real bright spots for me and we should absolutely be backing those lads. Im not 100% convinced by some of those brought in, but they were brought in pretty late so not sure how match fit/integrated they are. its gonna take 10 games before we really know for me. I hope the young lads can bail us out but its gonna be a kicker for them if the fans aint on side. Edited 17 August by Foxin_Mad 5
1884HF Posted 17 August Posted 17 August 2 hours ago, fkas said: People aren't emotionless. If your customers heckled, swore and booed you every time you presented your work to them you'd feel demotivated pretty swiftly. In theory the amount of money they are being paid should soften the blow but let's be realistic that's not how it is. It's two bad seasons for us but for the youngsters who are getting their first shot and the new signings it's game one. so we should write off all the wrongdoings of the board and certain rotten figures in the squad that have placed us here - the anger and abuse should be directed at the board predominately but if okoli cocks up for the 100000th time or if faes and mavididi carries on with his usual shite attitude or mccarthy fumbles it in the 6 yard box and concedes I will be livid and the players will hear it and there isn't a single thing wrong with that
1884HF Posted 17 August Posted 17 August 2 hours ago, when_you're_smiling said: The only players on the pitch on Saturday who played in previous seasons were BDCR, Thomas, Skipp, Okoli and the injury hit Souttar plus Choudhury off the bench. The other nine that featured had nothing to do with that position. If the likes of Braybrooke or Alves walked up to you and said ‘why are you booing me?’ what would you say to them? ill back the youngsters all the way, ill chant for them like everyone else but they too must realise how much shite we've had to deal with over the past 4 years and how little change we've actually seen so they have to realise there are fans like myself who have deep issues with their squad members and we have to set high standards im sure if they have such an issue that Thomas is getting abused they can cry into their caviar in their gucci tracksuits at the sea grave spa and hotel 1
Harpenden Fox Posted 17 August Posted 17 August 7 minutes ago, 1884HF said: so we should write off all the wrongdoings of the board and certain rotten figures in the squad that have placed us here - the anger and abuse should be directed at the board predominately but if okoli cocks up for the 100000th time or if faes and mavididi carries on with his usual shite attitude or mccarthy fumbles it in the 6 yard box and concedes I will be livid and the players will hear it and there isn't a single thing wrong with that It is also important to remember that whilst LCFC means so much to us, it is only football. Anger and abuse are strong emotions.
1884HF Posted 17 August Posted 17 August 1 minute ago, Harpenden Fox said: It is also important to remember that whilst LCFC means so much to us, it is only football. Anger and abuse are strong emotions. is it not fair to be angry after watching your club go from a European semi final, fa cup win and prem win to 3 relegations in 4 years and the verge of administration as we scrape a draw against a glorified league 2 side 1
Harpenden Fox Posted 17 August Posted 17 August 7 minutes ago, 1884HF said: is it not fair to be angry after watching your club go from a European semi final, fa cup win and prem win to 3 relegations in 4 years and the verge of administration as we scrape a draw against a glorified league 2 side I'd say it's sad. Anger I reserve for stuff that really matters. I'm determined to try and enjoy my trips to the football, however hard that may be. Towards the end of last season there was a bloke sitting a few seats to my left who was just giving everyone dog's abuse for the whole game. Make no mistake we were playing appallingly, but it kind of made me think if this activity is making you so miserable, what's the point of going?
1884HF Posted 17 August Posted 17 August ill agree to disagree and im not gonna question anyones level of passion or how they respond to the state the clubs in but personally I go to every game wanting to experience a last min winner an absolute belter of a goal and general success but when you consistently see such little effort from the players and consistent significant failings form the board then I will get angry because im seeing the thing I love die and wither pretty much 2
fkas Posted 17 August Posted 17 August 1 hour ago, 1884HF said: so we should write off all the wrongdoings of the board and certain rotten figures in the squad that have placed us here - the anger and abuse should be directed at the board predominately but if okoli cocks up for the 100000th time or if faes and mavididi carries on with his usual shite attitude or mccarthy fumbles it in the 6 yard box and concedes I will be livid and the players will hear it and there isn't a single thing wrong with that The board deserve what the board get. As McCarthy has been here for all of one league game of give him a chance. Perhaps try and lift the more limited players in the squad before lamenting their inevitable mistakes. A few passable performances and we might be able to offload them after all.
jim5000 Posted 17 August Posted 17 August The worst thing that could happen is we get promoted under Martin. Unless the club is sold, that would mean Top gives him a 3 year extension and we’re stuck languishing in the champo with him for aeons 1 1
murphy Posted 17 August Posted 17 August 6 hours ago, fkas said: People aren't emotionless. If your customers heckled, swore and booed you every time you presented your work to them you'd feel demotivated pretty swiftly. In theory the amount of money they are being paid should soften the blow but let's be realistic that's not how it is. It's two bad seasons for us but for the youngsters who are getting their first shot and the new signings it's game one. Look at it the other way. Epic Mismanagement and repeated mistakes is causing the slow death of your club from Premier League trophy winners to league one dross. There is zero accountability. Rudkin still in situ, the disinterested players that got us here still being picked... What are you supposed to do? Sit on your hands? Clap them off? No. They (the club, the players) need to feel uncomfortable. They need to hear some fury, they need to know that this is unacceptable. 3
The Year Of The Fox Posted 17 August Posted 17 August 6 hours ago, when_you're_smiling said: The only players on the pitch on Saturday who played in previous seasons were BDCR, Thomas, Skipp, Okoli and the injury hit Souttar plus Choudhury off the bench. The other nine that featured had nothing to do with that position. If the likes of Braybrooke or Alves walked up to you and said ‘why are you booing me?’ what would you say to them? If the young lads have an ounce of common sense they’ll know any boos aren’t meant for them. 4
The Year Of The Fox Posted 17 August Posted 17 August 7 hours ago, Chelmofox said: Oh do shut up. I've been KP out for ages and been happy to sing Rudkin out etc at home games. Not happy clappers at all. But to say we deserve this is complete up your own arse bollocks. A large portion of our fan base DO deserve it. The consensus may have changed now, but 6 months + ago when there was still time to act to halt the decline, half these people were calling the others ‘entitled’ or ‘UFS Twa*s’ or refused to protest. Or tried to turn the reasons for the low turn out in the boycott game as weather related. These fans have blood on their hands. Many on here have it too back from when backing Rodgers to the hilt in autumn 2021 1
Popular Post Long Eaton Fox Posted 17 August Popular Post Posted 17 August You miserable bunch of defeatist, whining, downbeat scum. Please don't come to any of the games. Our upcoming young players don't deserve to hear your abuse. COYB. 6
1884HF Posted 17 August Posted 17 August 3 minutes ago, Long Eaton Fox said: You miserable bunch of defeatist, whining, downbeat scum. Please don't come to any of the games. Our upcoming young players don't deserve to hear your abuse. COYB. carry on clapping - that will reverse incoming administration and 3 relegations in 4 years you absolute trout 1
1884HF Posted 17 August Posted 17 August 40 minutes ago, murphy said: Look at it the other way. Epic Mismanagement and repeated mistakes is causing the slow death of your club from Premier League trophy winners to league one dross. There is zero accountability. Rudkin still in situ, the disinterested players that got us here still being picked... What are you supposed to do? Sit on your hands? Clap them off? No. They (the club, the players) need to feel uncomfortable. They need to hear some fury, they need to know that this is unacceptable. I don't get why we are being told that the best way to carry on with this situation going forward is to clap and smile and ignore all the wrongdoings - its alright on Saturday when we lose were gonna sit in a circle hold hands and sing kumbaya
when_you're_smiling Posted 17 August Posted 17 August 1 hour ago, The Year Of The Fox said: If the young lads have an ounce of common sense they’ll know any boos aren’t meant for them. Really? You think they have no self doubt whatsoever having never been first team regulars before? If you’re part of a team that doesn’t win and is booed you’d have to be an ego maniac to not think part of it’s for you. Why would you think it’s only for a third of the players who played?
Ky Le Don Posted 17 August Posted 17 August (edited) I honestly think Russel Martin NEEDS to be given time. As big of an ego he has, surely even he would have taken on board what his critics have been saying from his previous jobs. He has had that taste of Premier league football. He'll know the standards that have to be set in place to get our city back there. I'm not sure we can get any one of the same ilk currently. He can't be sacked anytime soon. We definitely still need to make our concerns known. However we also need to make sure our support positively outweighs our grumbles. Promotion this season is SO important! 💙🦊 Nothing good will come from booing these lads and creating another season of toxicity. We either all band together and be the 12th man encouraging the boys or continue helping create our own downfall Edited 17 August by Ky Le Don
em9999 Posted 17 August Posted 17 August (edited) honestly think Russel Martin NEEDS to be given time. He will be in prison if he gets us relegated with his fancy football with defenders that can't pass two yards Edited 17 August by em9999
Popular Post Clogger_ Posted 17 August Popular Post Posted 17 August (edited) 1 hour ago, Long Eaton Fox said: You miserable bunch of defeatist, whining, downbeat scum. Please don't come to any of the games. Our upcoming young players don't deserve to hear your abuse. COYB. Takes some brass neck to complain about "abuse" after hurling that stream at fellow supporters! Edited 17 August by Clogger_ 5
BlueBus Posted 18 August Posted 18 August (edited) 13 hours ago, The Year Of The Fox said: A large portion of our fan base DO deserve it. The consensus may have changed now, but 6 months + ago when there was still time to act to halt the decline, half these people were calling the others ‘entitled’ or ‘UFS Twa*s’ or refused to protest. Or tried to turn the reasons for the low turn out in the boycott game as weather related. These fans have blood on their hands. Many on here have it too back from when backing Rodgers to the hilt in autumn 2021 Out of interest, where do you think the club would be if every fan were like you? Edited 18 August by BlueBus
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