Toxic club - an inconvenient truth about our fans

[Spanner73]

13 hours ago, Voll Blau said:

Fully agree. We need to pull together to get the worst owner in our history out of our club.

100% !!! 

[orangecity23]

37 minutes ago, NextPlease said:

Of which 10 of those years under current ownership 

In those 69 years, only 2 have been spent in the third tier of English football. One of those is under the current ownership...

[coolhandfox]

Most fans don't turn toxic without a reason. Right now, the club is rudderless, trapped in a culture that accepts failure and lacks both standards and accountability. We are seeing total mismanagement both on and off the pitch, paired with little to no communication. I don't understand why it's so hard for people to see that the leadership is directly responsible for this disconnected and toxic fanbase.

Edited Sunday at 12:59 by coolhandfox

[Sol thewall Bamba]

There's no "toxicity" at the women's games.

 

They got relegated too.

[SafewayFox]

8 hours ago, smudgerfox said:

"Using agencies to do our business as we are too lazy to do any real scouting."

 

is there any evidence for this? It's an accusation that's often thrown around - but surely if this was the case you'd see a pattern in our signings (Southampton is the only one I can see). 
 

i had a look when Jake on BSLB (maybe a year ago) mentioned that  an insider told him we have a scouting department but it's often ignored in favour of a couple of agents. I looked up some of the most inexplicable signings and could find no common thread (though not all agent info is made public)...

 

I'm a retired journalist and happy to follow up any credible leads on this.. 

How about the crazy agent fees paid, yet we didn’t spend a single penny on transfer fees?

[Chrysalis]

On 19/06/2026 at 14:27, peach0000 said:

The fans on this forum or at least a very vocal minority are toxic and seem to genuinely enjoy criticizing everything and being negative. Foxes Talk has never represented the majority of fans who are much more level headed reasonable people in my experience. I read the forum from time to time but I rarely participate anymore due to the toxicity of a minority who I feel don’t let genuine debate take place with their absolutism (in a negative way) about everything. 

What gives you the impression people are enjoying it?

[Chrysalis]

On 19/06/2026 at 19:52, Raspeir said:

 

The OP makes a very good point, which it really feels worthy of considering - not that we are to blame - but that we do genuinely have the ability to impact the situation and the outcome of a game and season.

 

We are all in a position, each time we take our seats, that we (as individuals) have almost no control over the outcome of the matches we are watching. That's the hardest thing about being a fan. However as a collective, we genuinely can make a massive positive difference. The die-hard fans are the most vocal, and the ones that generally set that tone for the whole stadium, and those are the people with the biggest opportunity to shift the narrative.

 

That's not to dismiss the pain of sitting through what we've all witnessed. It was horrible, and has been for some time. We've all got the same frustrations with the lack of respect both club and fans have been shown by players and senior management alike. That however can now be consigned to history, if we put it behind us.

 

We now, have an opportunity to shift that narrative. Each of us, and we as a collective, get to make a choice as to how we greet the new season, each player old and new, and the team as a whole. If we get behind them, we can make a huge positive difference. 

 

We get a chance at a fresh start - just as others at the club get. Shifting our collective mindset and the overall narrative could genuinely be the difference between an amazing season, and another painful one.

 

How do you have a fresh start without having a fresh start?

The fans pretending everything is ok doesnt remove Top from the club.

You think its just about having a good football season, you dont recognise the mess with the finances, the appointments, the squad building, the bad style of play the owner wants?

[smudgerfox]

11 hours ago, SafewayFox said:

How about the crazy agent fees paid, yet we didn’t spend a single penny on transfer fees?

Dont the last agent fee stats refer to PL season? 

[SafewayFox]

5 minutes ago, smudgerfox said:

Dont the last agent fee stats refer to PL season? 

From the BBC -

 

Leicester City FC paid £5.87 million to football agents and intermediaries in the most recent reporting period (February 2025 to February 2026), according to figures released by The FA. This ranked as the third-highest agent fee spend in the Championship for that specific period

[Clogger_]

5 minutes ago, SafewayFox said:

From the BBC -

 

Leicester City FC paid £5.87 million to football agents and intermediaries in the most recent reporting period (February 2025 to February 2026), according to figures released by The FA. This ranked as the third-highest agent fee spend in the Championship for that specific period

How is this possible given that we hardly signed anyone? Are we paying them to fail at finding new clubs for our overpaid players?

[gerblod]

On 18/06/2026 at 11:35, LeePhilpottsBaldSpot said:

Yes - we’re shit. The board avoid accountability, plenty of players are bellends and the club is a mess. On top of that, the atmosphere online and in the ground has become properly toxic. I find this really quite sad because the club has pulled me out of some dark places in my life.

 

For about five years I've thought there are three warring camps at Leicester City:

 

• the board
• the players
• the fans

 

Each camp blames the other two and thinks they don’t need to change themselves - it's the other guys' fault. If they changed, we'd be fine. Each mindset feeds the spiral. Every 4 months we sack a manager as a sacrificial lamb, and the three camps continue. I'm not saying each camp is equally to blame - I'd say 50% board, 35% players, 15% fans. The maddening thing is that if any camp improved, the others would too - but no camp is willing to change.

 

Just look at this place: months/years of posting hate threads on Ayew (103 pages), Winks (171), Rowett (179), Kristiansen (49), King Power (338). Be honest - how much new is being said now? Will posting a 339th page find a billionaire to buy out King Power? Will a 172nd page on Harry Winks find a club to take on his wages. There’s already multiple negative threads about Russell Martin and the poor sod's been in post for about two days.

 

I’m not saying stop criticising, just that endlessly piling on the same targets creates a circle of toxicity that clearly hinders the club. We’re still Leicester City fans, and we’ve seen plenty of times when we've pulled out of dire situations with a bit of unity. I don't think it will happen when we're just relentlessly moaning - especially about things that can't be changed or players / managers that have already left the club.

 

This thread will probably die on its arse after a few laughing emojis and snippy replies, and maybe I'm wrong and that's the 'right' way to support the club these days. But personally, I’d rather try to reset the tone more to the club I fell in love with as a child than keep adding pages and pages to the same old hate threads.

 

Anyone else up for that?

I'd exonerate the players. The 'board' assemble to rubber stamp Rudkin's recommendations and the fans assemble on match days and on various forums to have a go at their favourite scapegoat. I don't imagine the players ever fixing a date and venue for a discussion about the current situation. They've had years of being told what to do rather than imposing their opinion on the world outside the dressing room. The bile aimed at individual players appears to me to have become increasingly toxic since the relegation under Rodgers. Winning the Cup masked the inadequacies of Top, but we've been pointing the finger at Rudkin (and Whelan) before that.

We're immensely frustrated at how the Club has been mismanaged since Rodgers and Top fell out. Sure we got back into the Prem but the writings been on the wall for a long time and our opinions as fans have been ignored, as have our increasingly angry reactions. It's a recipe for negativity without any perceptible evidence that it could change. 

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

25 minutes ago, Clogger_ said:

How is this possible given that we hardly signed anyone? Are we paying them to fail at finding new clubs for our overpaid players?

I think you still pay agents for outgoings?

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

Can anyone name an example of a club where a regime that has let things slide to a point like ours turns it around?

 

I can’t think of one, because it doesn’t happen. A leopard doesn’t change its spots and so on. Time will tell if promoting the chief architect of failure and bringing in a minion will work, but he’ll have to be a miracle worker.
 

The FT survey and views of many I spoke to at last game of the season confirms to me that the vast majorly of fans want change, but only a small fraction are prepared to be vocal about it. That’s people’s choice and I respect that, but equally this club is in a death spiral imo. How much worse does it have to get until there is a widespread vocal and visible anger?

 

From my reading this thread started by saying we’re toxic and in large part blaming the fans for criticising everything the club does. How is this situation the fault of the fans? If there is anything about the fan base to criticise it’s that we’ve been passive and not made it more toxic. Passivity clearly imo gets interpreted by Aiyawatt and the gimps he’s surrounded himself with as him having significant slack and goodwill to turn it around.
 

And don’t get me started on fans who spend time on social media being equally as critical and then jump at the chance to pose for photos with him. Get him in the bin 😡 you are part of the problem.

[SB87_LCFC]

39 minutes ago, Clogger_ said:

How is this possible given that we hardly signed anyone? Are we paying them to fail at finding new clubs for our overpaid players?

Probably old debt, like most things in the club at the moment 

[LCFCJohn]

8 minutes ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

Can anyone name an example of a club where a regime that has let things slide to a point like ours turns it around?

 

I can’t think of one, because it doesn’t happen. A leopard doesn’t change its spots and so on. Time will tell if promoting the chief architect of failure and bringing in a minion will work, but he’ll have to be a miracle worker.
 

The FT survey and views of many I spoke to at last game of the season confirms to me that the vast majorly of fans want change, but only a small fraction are prepared to be vocal about it. That’s people’s choice and I respect that, but equally this club is in a death spiral imo. How much worse does it have to get until there is a widespread vocal and visible anger?

 

From my reading this thread started by saying we’re toxic and in large part blaming the fans for criticising everything the club does. How is this situation the fault of the fans? If there is anything about the fan base to criticise it’s that we’ve been passive and not made it more toxic. Passivity clearly imo gets interpreted by Aiyawatt and the gimps he’s surrounded himself with as him having significant slack and goodwill to turn it around.
 

And don’t get me started on fans who spend time on social media being equally as critical and then jump at the chance to pose for photos with him. Get him in the bin 😡 you are part of the problem.

I think in terms of your first point, about whether it will turn around, it is unclear whether those defending the running of the club actually think this either. The impression I have got is that they don’t really mind as the ownership have got a free pass to run the club into the ground based on previous achievements. As opposed to them actually thinking it’ll change. But you are correct of course, there’s no precedent for it turning around or any evidence to suggest it will.

 

Otherwise it is just exhausting the ongoing division between the fans. I am personally sick of, whilst not directly, being called an entitled 2016 supporter because I am unhappy with the ownership. The accusations that because we are pissed off at what we are seeing, this somehow means we think we should be winning the PL and being in the CL every season. Complete nonsense and completely toxic by those who claim not to be. This is why I personally react to people sometimes, only on here, but then you get blamed for being toxic and round and round we go.

 

It is also really annoying how they accuse us of being toxic and not being able to hold a debate. And yet there are a couple of examples within this thread where I have tried to engage politely with respectful debate with these posters and you never get a response. To me this seems that they actually only want to engage in the argumentative, toxic exchanges and not in genuine debate.

 

So who is actually toxic? Thats the question. 

[gerblod]

12 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

There's no "toxicity" at the women's games.

 

They got relegated too.

Very different fans. It's the blokes at the men's matches (and on here) who get aggressive. I was listening to the manager of a women's refuge saying that a not insignificant minority of wives of football supporters pray that the team their husbands support, either win or draw on any particular match day - because, if they lose, then domestic violence results.

Too much of their personal pride is stitched into how their team performs. I don't see that in the fans of the women's game. 

[gerblod]

7 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

It is also really annoying how they accuse us of being toxic and not being able to hold a debate. And yet there are a couple of examples within this thread where I have tried to engage politely with respectful debate with these posters and you never get a response. To me this seems that they actually only want to engage in the argumentative, toxic exchanges and not in genuine debate.

For some, quite a few actually, this forum is used, not as a debating 'place', but as a means of expressing their rage. They might turn on anyone who disagrees but mostly they can't see beyond the feelings and will lash out at or ridicule those who question their outbursts. If they don't respond then it's because they're not able to think or communicate rationally. 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

15 minutes ago, gerblod said:

Very different fans. It's the blokes at the men's matches (and on here) who get aggressive. I was listening to the manager of a women's refuge saying that a not insignificant minority of wives of football supporters pray that the team their husbands support, either win or draw on any particular match day - because, if they lose, then domestic violence results.

Too much of their personal pride is stitched into how their team performs. I don't see that in the fans of the women's game. 

Yeah thanks for agreeing with me.

[LCFCJohn]

9 minutes ago, gerblod said:

For some, quite a few actually, this forum is used, not as a debating 'place', but as a means of expressing their rage. They might turn on anyone who disagrees but mostly they can't see beyond the feelings and will lash out at or ridicule those who question their outbursts. If they don't respond then it's because they're not able to think or communicate rationally. 

Yeah exactly, I agree. My point is, it is the same people who accuse others of being toxic (I.e because we are outspoken about the management of the club) who seem to want to engage in the toxic arguments and ignore the reasoned posts and replies they get. I don’t mind people using the forum as a means to vent but it is very hypocritical to act holier than thou and yet they are just as toxic as anything or anyone else but seem blind to it, likely for the reason as the end of your point. 
 

Your post above about domestic violence as well. Just to say, I have seen similar things mentioned and it’s an awful that people get this worked up by it. 

[MonarchFox]

23 minutes ago, gerblod said:

Very different fans. It's the blokes at the men's matches (and on here) who get aggressive. I was listening to the manager of a women's refuge saying that a not insignificant minority of wives of football supporters pray that the team their husbands support, either win or draw on any particular match day - because, if they lose, then domestic violence results.

Too much of their personal pride is stitched into how their team performs. I don't see that in the fans of the women's game. 

To be fair that's a complete debate on it's own.  I've coached boys, men, girls and women and their whole outlook is completely different.  Girls are playing for the love of the game, supporters at womens games are their to support and are fans.  It's a much much enjoyable experience all round.

 

Mens and boys completely different, we seem to bring up football haters (forest are shit, dirty Leeds etc, smash the twat etc).  Was at a tournament the other weekend and an U9's boys team lost the final, kids crying trying to kick lumps out of each, refusing to shake the other teams hands at the end, coach being a complete dickhead and parents seemingly happy with that.  That's where the toxicity starts.

 

I'm not saying there's not a crossover, I've seen stuff in girls football to but it's very rare.

 

 

[LCFCJohn]

8 minutes ago, MonarchFox said:

To be fair that's a complete debate on it's own.  I've coached boys, men, girls and women and their whole outlook is completely different.  Girls are playing for the love of the game, supporters at womens games are their to support and are fans.  It's a much much enjoyable experience all round.

 

Mens and boys completely different, we seem to bring up football haters (forest are shit, dirty Leeds etc, smash the twat etc).  Was at a tournament the other weekend and an U9's boys team lost the final, kids crying trying to kick lumps out of each, refusing to shake the other teams hands at the end, coach being a complete dickhead and parents seemingly happy with that.  That's where the toxicity starts.

 

I'm not saying there's not a crossover, I've seen stuff in girls football to but it's very rare.

 

 

Parents taking it far too seriously. You hear the abuse refs at kids games get as well.

 

Even when I was a kid, and I’m only in the first half of my 30’s, whilst there were some clubs that were all about winning and bringing in kids from other villages etc, there were plenty like my own team who still put a huge emphasis on enjoyment and participation for all regardless of talent.
 

From what I can gather now, it’s more and more about winning at all costs and cutting kids that aren’t deemed good enough. Sure, there will always be a team lower down for them but sometimes kids want to play for the love of the game and with their mates, for their local grassroots team and are being blocked out due to coaching and parents being so competitive. 

[CosbehFox]

On 19/06/2026 at 23:42, hackneyfox said:

So KPFC isn’t thrown around as an insult?

Those who go to games or renewed their season tickets aren’t accused of being part of the problem?

We need to pull together, unfortunately that’s unlikely to happen anytime soon.

On the other side, I am see a lot of fans who've decided to stop going being called fickle or glory supporters

[CosbehFox]

On 21/06/2026 at 11:31, smudgerfox said:

"Using agencies to do our business as we are too lazy to do any real scouting."

 

is there any evidence for this? It's an accusation that's often thrown around - but surely if this was the case you'd see a pattern in our signings (Southampton is the only one I can see). 
 

i had a look when Jake on BSLB (maybe a year ago) mentioned that  an insider told him we have a scouting department but it's often ignored in favour of a couple of agents. I looked up some of the most inexplicable signings and could find no common thread (though not all agent info is made public)...

 

I'm a retired journalist and happy to follow up any credible leads on this.. 

 

23 hours ago, NextPlease said:

All message board “fact” and no real knowledge 

I'd suggest the excessively high agency fees for a few loan deals is the evidence you need. 

[CosbehFox]

15 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

There's no "toxicity" at the women's games.

 

They got relegated too.

 

2 hours ago, gerblod said:

Very different fans. It's the blokes at the men's matches (and on here) who get aggressive. I was listening to the manager of a women's refuge saying that a not insignificant minority of wives of football supporters pray that the team their husbands support, either win or draw on any particular match day - because, if they lose, then domestic violence results.

Too much of their personal pride is stitched into how their team performs. I don't see that in the fans of the women's game. 

It did get 'toxic' though but it was always after the games. 

 

There were parents of the players calling out the manager a good two months before relegation. At the end of the games some of the players looked visibly upset at the situation. 

[It'sblueupnorth]

14 hours ago, CosbehFox said:

 

I'd suggest the excessively high agency fees for a few loan deals is the evidence you need. 

Pointless arguing with them, theyre a proper ' careful what you wish for we were in league one oncer'

Edited 1 hour ago by It'sblueupnorth