Toxic club - an inconvenient truth about our fans

[GLC]

2 hours ago, Foxin_Mad said:

I'm not actually sure it was. Its just hurty words. Rudkin can remove himself at anytime. Instead he has basically stood up this week and said **** you to the entire fan base, he is a toxic vile creature and vile get vile back. 

Right, but remember there are children that go to games as well. 
 

[Manwell Pablo]

23 minutes ago, The whole world smiles said:

The frustrating thing about our toxic fans is not only are they utterly toxic but they are also unbelievably useless and lazy as fuch to boot. 

 

Making zero progress in applying pressure to force the Thais out. They can't even get Rudkin out. The so called "protests" are an absolute embarrassment with a few cretins holding soggy miss spelt signs. And several failed go fund me's. They cant even get themselves into a organised group with a name. 

 

They are fickle as fuch too with the Rudkin out chanting completely grinding to halt for the Maresca season. 

 

They are also incabeable of understanding nuance other City fans are in their minds either as toxic as them or some kind of King Power fan boys. The idea that you can think the club is a shit show but not agree with their ineffective, self destructive toxicity is totally alien to them. 

 

All they have succeeded in achieving is turning foxes talk into a boring miserable echo chamber contributing negatively to the clubs chances of success. 

 

I will end my rant with a question to the toxic boys how close out of 10 do you think King Power is to selling up due to fan pressure? And has that number changed over the last 4 years? 

 

Wow. What were you expecting, King Power to sell up the minute we had a protest? 

 

Useless and lazy, again wow.

 

You do realise, well you clearly don't so I'll rephrase that,  you should realise every single person that has achieved ANYTHING at all in terms of making any kind of protest of positive action has not come from the Foxes Trust, has not come Union FS, it has come from a bunch of lads  7-10 lads with families and 9-5 jobs. 

 

I personally contacted Union FS about the state of our club with an ambition to do something about our ownership, their answer was to refer me to that group, that group has been more present on Talk Sport or Radio Leicester than than Union FS or the Foxestrust. 

 

We have tried to contact the BSLB, we have received support from Union FS, nothing from the FoxesTrust.

 

If we as 7-10 people can organise the things we have, then well established organisations with further reaching social and political connections should have picked up the torch and seen what could be done. They have not, I have no desire to carry on working with a small band or rebels if nothing bigger is going to start running with our idelogy. Yes it's ineffective, it was suppose to show the art of the possible.

 

The reason Foxestalk is an echo chamber of negativity is because there is nothing to be positive about.

 

And the reason our actions never gain any traction is people like you don't understand this is something that could drag on for years, not a few months.

 

Increadible from you tbh, had you down as an intelligent bloke. 

 

 

 

 

[SemperEadem]

7 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said:

 

Wow. What were you expecting, King Power to sell up the minute we had a protest? 

 

Useless and lazy, again wow.

 

You do realise, well you clearly don't so I'll rephrase that,  you should realise every single person that has achieved ANYTHING at all in terms of making any kind of protest of positive action has not come from the Foxes Trust, has not come Union FS, it has come from a bunch of lads  7-10 lads with families and 9-5 jobs. 

 

I personally contacted Union FS about the state of our club with an ambition to do something about our ownership, their answer was to refer me to that group, that group has been more present on Talk Sport or Radio Leicester than than Union FS or the Foxestrust. 

 

We have tried to contact the BSLB, we have received support from Union FS, nothing from the FoxesTrust.

 

If we as 7-10 people can organise the things we have, then well established organisations with further reaching social and political connections should have picked up the torch and seen what could be done. They have not, I have no desire to carry on working with a small band or rebels if nothing bigger is going to start running with our idelogy. Yes it's ineffective, it was suppose to show the art of the possible.

 

The reason Foxestalk is an echo chamber of negativity is because there is nothing to be positive about.

 

And the reason our actions never gain any traction is people like you don't understand this is something that could drag on for years, not a few months.

 

Increadible from you tbh, had you down as an intelligent bloke. 

 

 

 

 

The protest chat you were in was absolutely full of UFS members and a fair few trust ones too.
It was set up and largely organised by ufs. They painted the banner, they did the podcast and media interviews.

It was done without their respective group hats on as though that with them on it would not attract more to the cause.

 

Edited 46 minutes ago by SemperEadem

[murphy]

1 hour ago, LeePhilpottsBaldSpot said:

Classic internet response - mocking a point I didn't make. I’ve said the club’s a shambles, and most of the blame sits with the board and players. But relentless fan negativity plays a part too - and elements of this thread proves it 

 

I'm not sure fans hate posting in a Jordan Ayew thread all summer will avoid any icebergs.

There's a difference between holding the club to account and having an addiction to moaning. Our 'fans' are spending a summer adding to a 100+ page hate thread for an ex-player and a 300+ page 'King Power Out' thread that won't generate a new billionaire owner. Same mentality as booing a player coming on as a sub, chanting about murdering Rudkin and going on GB News saying you want us to get relegated because you hate the board.

 

My point remains: the board have overseen failure after failure. The players have performed below their pay grade. As a result, the fan atmosphere is toxic.

 

Yet it feels to me like:

• the board think it's the players and fans' fault - so don't change
• the players think it's the board and fans' fault - so don't change
• the fans think it's he board and players' fault - so don't change

Rinse and repeat. A culture where nobody recognises fault brings no change, and the downward spiral continues.

You are making the point that fans have to shoulder blame for the state of the club.  You've just done it again.  I am simply highlighting what a ridiculous, not to mention, insulting position that is to take.  We did not get into this mess because of moaning on an internet forum.  

 

The board does not change because it is incompetent and incapable of learning as it has repeatedly demonstrated.

[Manwell Pablo]

9 minutes ago, SemperEadem said:

The protest chat you were in was absolutely full of UFS members and a fair few trust ones too.
It was set up and largely organised by ufs. They painted the banner, they did the podcast and media interviews.

It was done without their respective group hats on as though that with them on it would not attract more to the cause.

 

 

I wasn't in any protest, I have my own protest and it's called not going full stop and if we all did that they'd be out before you know it.

 

I know full well who arranged it. I helped arrange it. 

 

Having members of certain them attend and having them pick up the baton and doing something with it, poltically, as opposed to just attending, is a different matter. People with connections to certain organisations carry more clout than others without them.

 

I'll say again, the idea was to demonstrate the protesting can work and with more backing, could apply pressure for change at the club. Not to change the ownership over night. 

 

It blows my mind this club has been mismanaged this badly and the some fan's are more willing to point sideways instead of upwards, makes me not care if we go bust it honestly does, you'll get what you deserve. 

 

 

Edited 35 minutes ago by Manwell Pablo

[davieG]

Which bit is the inconvenient truth? I'm sure it's all relatively true obviously some guesswork and surmising but the only inconvenience I can see is how we went from

 

 Team Vichai and Whelan = Unprecedented success from a position abject failure to  Team Aiyawatt and Rudkin = Abject failure from a position of unprecedented success

[jayfox26]

The only way to get fans back onside is through improved results/performances and better decision and accountability at every level of the club. Many fans are sick of the same poor decisions being made, whether that be managerial appointments, recruitment, contracts, wages, the list is endless and there has been zero sign of any improvement. 

 

Top could quite easily bring a few fans back onside by sacking Rudkin, but he wont and hence why many fans have had enough and find the club unsupportable. 

 

The fans are not to blame for where we are. We have tried supporting the players and they have continued the toss it off and treat the club and fans with disdain. They have been enabled to do this by Top and the board as they have contributed to an atmosphere that lacks leadership and accountability. High wages, long contracts, luxury training ground but with no standards or accountability at any level. 

 

Even if the whole fanbase was United and fully in support of the board, and the players, this would not miraculously improve standards, results and decision making, if anything it would make things worse as they would feel they are doing a good job as the fans applaud and praise rank under performance and mis management at every level. 

 

People can choose to buy tickets, support the team and others can choose to protest and stay away. 

 

One thing I am certain about is that unless things change drastically at every level of the club, we have yet to hit rock bottom and there is a high chance the club could go bust if the poor decision making and running of the club continues. 

[LeePhilpottsBaldSpot]

21 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said:

 

Wow. What were you expecting, King Power to sell up the minute we had a protest? 

 

Useless and lazy, again wow.

 

You do realise, well you clearly don't so I'll rephrase that,  you should realise every single person that has achieved ANYTHING at all in terms of making any kind of protest of positive action has not come from the Foxes Trust, has not come Union FS, it has come from a bunch of lads  7-10 lads with families and 9-5 jobs. 

 

I personally contacted Union FS about the state of our club with an ambition to do something about our ownership, their answer was to refer me to that group, that group has been more present on Talk Sport or Radio Leicester than than Union FS or the Foxestrust. 

 

We have tried to contact the BSLB, we have received support from Union FS, nothing from the FoxesTrust.

 

If we as 7-10 people can organise the things we have, then well established organisations with further reaching social and political connections should have picked up the torch and seen what could be done. They have not, I have no desire to carry on working with a small band or rebels if nothing bigger is going to start running with our idelogy. Yes it's ineffective, it was suppose to show the art of the possible.

 

The reason Foxestalk is an echo chamber of negativity is because there is nothing to be positive about.

 

And the reason our actions never gain any traction is people like you don't understand this is something that could drag on for years, not a few months.

 

Increadible from you tbh, had you down as an intelligent bloke. 

And you call me "passive aggressive as ****"... 😂 😂 😂 

 

Look up the lyrics of the song his username is from and maybe you'll understand the mentality some of us have to adversity.

 

13 minutes ago, murphy said:

You are making the point that fans have to shoulder blame for the state of the club.  You've just done it again.  I am simply highlighting what a ridiculous, not to mention, insulting position that is to take.  We did not get into this mess because of moaning on an internet forum. 

Again, you're saying I've argued something I've not said.

 

I said the board being crap delivered bad players which led to a toxic atmosphere.

 

My point is about toxic negative performative bollocks that achieves nothing other than continuing the toxic culture.

 

Do we now need to stay in a toxic atmosphere?

 

Are you not a Leicester City fan any more if you don't post about how much you hate Harry Winks (won't create a buyer) the owners (won't magic up a billionaire), Jordan Ayew (doesn't play for us) throughout the summer?

[Foxin_Mad]

1 hour ago, The whole world smiles said:

The frustrating thing about our toxic fans is not only are they utterly toxic but they are also unbelievably useless and lazy as fuch to boot. 

 

Making zero progress in applying pressure to force the Thais out. They can't even get Rudkin out. The so called "protests" are an absolute embarrassment with a few cretins holding soggy miss spelt signs. And several failed go fund me's. They cant even get themselves into a organised group with a name. 

 

They are fickle as fuch too with the Rudkin out chanting completely grinding to halt for the Maresca season. 

 

They are also incabeable of understanding nuance other City fans are in their minds either as toxic as them or some kind of King Power fan boys. The idea that you can think the club is a shit show but not agree with their ineffective, self destructive toxicity is totally alien to them. 

 

All they have succeeded in achieving is turning foxes talk into a boring miserable echo chamber contributing negatively to the clubs chances of success. 

 

I will end my rant with a question to the toxic boys how close out of 10 do you think King Power is to selling up due to fan pressure? And has that number changed over the last 4 years? 

King Power probably won’t sell because Top is a stubborn idiot, and his chum is  Rudkin is even worse. A question to the happy crappy boys, how much better have the endless clap back the lads brigade made us over the last 4 years? What exactly has the club given the fans to be positive about? I am genuinely interested. 

[Foxin_Mad]

1 hour ago, GLC said:

Right, but remember there are children that go to games as well. 
 

Children do go to games, this can be a good opportunity to explain to children what kind of behaviour is acceptable. A lot of behaviour seen at the football isn’t always acceptable. I’m not going to be part of such chants but some people when angry will do stuff they shouldn’t, that is kind of part of an emotional sport for people that can’t always keep emotions in check.