Toxic club - an inconvenient truth about our fans

[orangecity23]

1 minute ago, OnlyOneCity said:

The malicious insults are going in the direction of Top and Rudkin but also to fans  who try to show support for Leicester City which  is actually not toxic. I am not defending Top or Rudkin and wish that they would leave our club. The fans who have desisted from booing the club have been demonised by those who choose to boo anything to do with City. 

I go to games, and it is pretty obvious that the fans making the positive noise backing the team with chants etc are exactly the same fans who are chanting Rudkin out, sack the board etc. The rest of the ground essentially makes no noise whatsoever, aside from the occasional mild round of applause or tutting when there are mistakes. It's barely supportive or positive, more of a passive observer watching events unfold in silence.

 

There are no fans who "boo anything to do with city", they intermix positive team chants with anti board ones. Sustained booing of the team itself only tends to occur after games are already lost, mostly after some of the worst player performances in terms of effort the club has seen in recent history. And as proven in this thread, across Facebook and with incidents at the ground, there are many, many instances of "fans who desist from booing the club" verbally, or physically attacking fans who have booed or held anti board banners. You will find plenty of fans on Facebook demonising Union FS, or the movement to reform the Foxes Trust.

[OnlyOneCity]

13 minutes ago, orangecity23 said:

I go to games, and it is pretty obvious that the fans making the positive noise backing the team with chants etc are exactly the same fans who are chanting Rudkin out, sack the board etc. The rest of the ground essentially makes no noise whatsoever, aside from the occasional mild round of applause or tutting when there are mistakes. It's barely supportive or positive, more of a passive observer watching events unfold in silence.

 

There are no fans who "boo anything to do with city", they intermix positive team chants with anti board ones. Sustained booing of the team itself only tends to occur after games are already lost, mostly after some of the worst player performances in terms of effort the club has seen in recent history. And as proven in this thread, across Facebook and with incidents at the ground, there are many, many instances of "fans who desist from booing the club" verbally, or physically attacking fans who have booed or held anti board banners. You will find plenty of fans on Facebook demonising Union FS, or the movement to reform the Foxes Trust.

All this rhetoric does not alter the fact that there has been a toxic atmosphere among fans and the abuse has mainly been aimed at fans who don’t behave how the abusers think they should. You only have to look back at months of FT to see the amount of flack thrown towards older fans or fans who continue to attend games when verbally attacked for doing so. There are former fans on here who despise anything to with City., expressing their hate for the club and disgust for fans who don’t share their opinions.

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[hackneyfox]

23 minutes ago, orangecity23 said:

I go to games, and it is pretty obvious that the fans making the positive noise backing the team with chants etc are exactly the same fans who are chanting Rudkin out, sack the board etc. The rest of the ground essentially makes no noise whatsoever, aside from the occasional mild round of applause or tutting when there are mistakes. It's barely supportive or positive, more of a passive observer watching events unfold in silence.

 

There are no fans who "boo anything to do with city", they intermix positive team chants with anti board ones. Sustained booing of the team itself only tends to occur after games are already lost, mostly after some of the worst player performances in terms of effort the club has seen in recent history. And as proven in this thread, across Facebook and with incidents at the ground, there are many, many instances of "fans who desist from booing the club" verbally, or physically attacking fans who have booed or held anti board banners. You will find plenty of fans on Facebook demonising Union FS, or the movement to reform the Foxes Trust.

So KPFC isn’t thrown around as an insult?

Those who go to games or renewed their season tickets aren’t accused of being part of the problem?

We need to pull together, unfortunately that’s unlikely to happen anytime soon.

[foxile5]

8 minutes ago, hackneyfox said:

We need to pull together, unfortunately that’s unlikely to happen anytime soon.

This club has had more than half a decade of the most pulled together fanbase in our history and they've treated us like morons and with contempt. An eagerness to be in the stadium has been met with hiked prices, a literal gatekeeping of the turnstiles, and untruthfulness. They've also closed general sale to a whole generation of fans. King Power have enjoyed a whole era of full-throated and unconditional support. 

 

It isn't what's going on in the stands that's the problem and not having dissenting voices is doing more harm than good at this point. 

[Kitchandro]

5 hours ago, LeePhilpottsBaldSpot said:

Personally – I live with depression, and toxic environments hit me fast. I spiral easily. The club and its community have been a massive support for me. This forum is usually my best outlet for that in the summer, and while criticism is fine my point is about relentless negativity. Either about old topics or about just anything about the club (friendlies are wrong, new manager already written off).

 

For the club - a toxic atmosphere makes recovery harder. How can fans share in a team's success but not think they can influence things at all when the team is struggling?

 

Last year our away results (17th) were unacceptable, but the home results (22nd) are actually what relegated us. That's not saying it was all on the fans, but a toxic atmosphere makes a bad situation even worse.

 

Would I take a new owner? Do I wish Jordan Ayew never signed? Do I think Harry Winks is a bellend? Yes, yes, yes.

 

What will improve if fans spend the summer adding to multiple hundred-plus (and rising) page hate threads about these topics? Absolutely nothing. 

 

My point is we won't magic up a new owner, build a Jordan Ayew-resistant time machine or change Harry Winks' personality by adding a 382nd page to those threads. And neither will adding a 9th thread about not liking the new manager.

 

This is the last I'll post on the topic for reasons of spiralling that I've mentioned earlier, and obviously people who disagree with me aren't going to change their minds, which is fine.

 

Cheers everyone and have a nice evening. Great weather and the World Cup's on - happy days! 

I also live with depression. Leicester City make me feel worse, and moaning on here makes me feel better. So what are we to do? We could shut the forum down, you could take a break from it, or maybe I could pretend LCFC never existed. The former and the latter are not realistic though.

 

I fundamentally don’t agree that negative comments or atmospheres make things worse. There’s plenty of occasions where the players respond to a kick up the arse, or a manager is sacked due to the crowd voicing that there’s no way back for them.

 

I don’t moan on here because it fixes anything. I moan on here because my emotions make me feel that it’s warranted. And frankly, I’ve made it clear there’s nothing left to support here. I’m not here to make things better, that’s not my job and I don’t have the power to. Neither do you.

 

People had the chance to see reason, and they didn’t. I’ve no more love to give to this club.

 

Edited 6 hours ago by Kitchandro

[Gamble92]

1 hour ago, hackneyfox said:

So KPFC isn’t thrown around as an insult?

Those who go to games or renewed their season tickets aren’t accused of being part of the problem?

We need to pull together, unfortunately that’s unlikely to happen anytime soon.

Only people to blame for that are the disgustingly inept Top and Rudkin. They're lucky there's not been way worse towards them than there has been. 

 

There is not a bigger example of ineptitude in football history. 

[Kitchandro]

1 hour ago, OnlyOneCity said:

All this rhetoric does not alter the fact that there has been a toxic atmosphere among fans and the abuse has mainly been aimed at fans who don’t behave how the abusers think they should. You only have to look back at months of FT to see the amount of flack thrown towards older fans or fans who continue to attend games when verbally attacked for doing so. There are former fans on here who despise anything to with City., expressing their hate for the club and disgust for fans who don’t share their opinions.

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There are a much larger number of pro-KP fans who have been both verbally and physically abusive towards those who have voiced opposition to the owners. Why do you not have a problem with them?

 

If everyone was vocally against the owners the fanbase would all be friends and you’d be much happier, no? Why can’t you stop being toxic and show some solidarity?

Edited 6 hours ago by Kitchandro