Toxic club - an inconvenient truth about our fans

[SystonFox]

On 18/06/2026 at 13:51, Foxin_Mad said:

Is it not a bit of a self fulfilling prophecy though? The club keeps doing the same things, it’s like ground hog day, so really bar a miracle nothing changes, the result will be the same

oh yes 100%. I did have a little bit of a moan in another thread some time ago (I think it was the 5000/1 game thread). Moaning and belittiling every single decision the club makes won't help. 

 

I never tired, or even understood, the Nicky Maynard saga so maybe this is my waterloo sunset.

 

 

[CosbehFox]

5 hours ago, steveb said:

I already see hate from the same old knuckle dragging Reform voting spite and hate brigade here for the new manager.

Unreal he can`t possibly have done anything to deserve it, he hasn`t even started the job ffs.

same old toxic twats.

So yes, i agree with the poster, the fans are 15% to blame, hopefully those 15% of scumbags will pee off and support some other unfortunate club by spreding their hate there.

In my experience the loudest against Martin don't really fit that at all. 

[Kitchandro]

I’m really not sure what the OP is saying.

 

The fans negativity has not contributed one iota to our demise. It’s all on the owner and the highly paid people he employs.

 

Whether you enjoy the complaining is another matter. But who bothers posting on a football forum to say nice things? The motivation to post is based on annoyance.

 

[Kitchandro]

22 hours ago, LeePhilpottsBaldSpot said:

Classic internet response - mocking a point I didn't make. I’ve said the club’s a shambles, and most of the blame sits with the board and players. But relentless fan negativity plays a part too - and elements of this thread proves it 

 

I'm not sure fans hate posting in a Jordan Ayew thread all summer will avoid any icebergs.

There's a difference between holding the club to account and having an addiction to moaning. Our 'fans' are spending a summer adding to a 100+ page hate thread for an ex-player and a 300+ page 'King Power Out' thread that won't generate a new billionaire owner. Same mentality as booing a player coming on as a sub, chanting about murdering Rudkin and going on GB News saying you want us to get relegated because you hate the board.

 

My point remains: the board have overseen failure after failure. The players have performed below their pay grade. As a result, the fan atmosphere is toxic.

 

Yet it feels to me like:

• the board think it's the players and fans' fault - so don't change
• the players think it's the board and fans' fault - so don't change
• the fans think it's he board and players' fault - so don't change

Rinse and repeat. A culture where nobody recognises fault brings no change, and the downward spiral continues.

Not going to make him any worse though is it? He can’t get any worse and he doesn’t play for us anymore.

 

So why do you care if the fans are negative? What is the tangible impact? You haven’t made that clear.

[Manwell Pablo]

4 minutes ago, Kitchandro said:

Not going to make him any worse though is it? He can’t get any worse and he doesn’t play for us anymore.

 

So why do you care if the fans are negative? What is the tangible impact? You haven’t made that clear.

 

@LeePhilpottsBaldSpot

 

If you've got me nodding along to a Kitchandro post you know you've gone wrong somewhere. 

[Corky]

2 hours ago, peach0000 said:

The fans on this forum or at least a very vocal minority are toxic and seem to genuinely enjoy criticizing everything and being negative. Foxes Talk has never represented the majority of fans who are much more level headed reasonable people in my experience. I read the forum from time to time but I rarely participate anymore due to the toxicity of a minority who I feel don’t let genuine debate take place with their absolutism (in a negative way) about everything. 

Very few enjoy criticising. They will not hold back when the opportunity arises and, sadly, that has been in ample supply in the past number of years.

 

Do you really think fans prefer this, therefore having the chance to complain, over watching an entertaining, successful team?

[peach0000]

19 minutes ago, Corky said:

Very few enjoy criticising. They will not hold back when the opportunity arises and, sadly, that has been in ample supply in the past number of years.

 

Do you really think fans prefer this, therefore having the chance to complain, over watching an entertaining, successful team?

The majority do not prefer it of course. I have no doubt that a small percentage of people do and they always to me seem the most vocal 

[Muzzy_no7]

Surprised this thread has still got legs TBH.

 

We aren’t and haven’t been negative enough. There should’ve been mass protests in their thousands over the last few years. 
 

It’s going to get even worse next season with the type of fans who have likely taken up the ST’s that people gave up. 

[murphy]

7 hours ago, steveb said:

I already see hate from the same old knuckle dragging Reform voting spite and hate brigade here for the new manager.

Unreal he can`t possibly have done anything to deserve it, he hasn`t even started the job ffs.

same old toxic twats.

So yes, i agree with the poster, the fans are 15% to blame, hopefully those 15% of scumbags will pee off and support some other unfortunate club by spreding their hate there.

And yet you have just written by far the most hateful post on this thread 

[Keyworth63]

2 hours ago, Kitchandro said:

I’m really not sure what the OP is saying.

 

The fans negativity has not contributed one iota to our demise. It’s all on the owner and the highly paid people he employs.

 

Whether you enjoy the complaining is another matter. But who bothers posting on a football forum to say nice things? The motivation to post is based on annoyance.

 

"The fans negativity has not contributed one iota to our demise". We don't really know if this is true or not, do we? It certainly hasn't helped.

[LeePhilpottsBaldSpot]

2 hours ago, Kitchandro said:

Not going to make him any worse though is it? He can’t get any worse and he doesn’t play for us anymore.

 

So why do you care if the fans are negative? What is the tangible impact? You haven’t made that clear.

Personally – I live with depression, and toxic environments hit me fast. I spiral easily. The club and its community have been a massive support for me. This forum is usually my best outlet for that in the summer, and while criticism is fine my point is about relentless negativity. Either about old topics or about just anything about the club (friendlies are wrong, new manager already written off).

 

For the club - a toxic atmosphere makes recovery harder. How can fans share in a team's success but not think they can influence things at all when the team is struggling?

 

Last year our away results (17th) were unacceptable, but the home results (22nd) are actually what relegated us. That's not saying it was all on the fans, but a toxic atmosphere makes a bad situation even worse.

 

Would I take a new owner? Do I wish Jordan Ayew never signed? Do I think Harry Winks is a bellend? Yes, yes, yes.

 

What will improve if fans spend the summer adding to multiple hundred-plus (and rising) page hate threads about these topics? Absolutely nothing. 

 

My point is we won't magic up a new owner, build a Jordan Ayew-resistant time machine or change Harry Winks' personality by adding a 382nd page to those threads. And neither will adding a 9th thread about not liking the new manager.

 

This is the last I'll post on the topic for reasons of spiralling that I've mentioned earlier, and obviously people who disagree with me aren't going to change their minds, which is fine.

 

Cheers everyone and have a nice evening. Great weather and the World Cup's on - happy days! 

[shen]

8 minutes ago, LeePhilpottsBaldSpot said:

Personally – I live with depression, and toxic environments hit me fast. I spiral easily. The club and its community have been a massive support for me. This forum is usually my best outlet for that in the summer, and while criticism is fine my point is about relentless negativity. Either about old topics or about just anything about the club (friendlies are wrong, new manager already written off).

 

For the club - a toxic atmosphere makes recovery harder. How can fans share in a team's success but not think they can influence things at all when the team is struggling?

 

Last year our away results (17th) were unacceptable, but the home results (22nd) are actually what relegated us. That's not saying it was all on the fans, but a toxic atmosphere makes a bad situation even worse.

 

Would I take a new owner? Do I wish Jordan Ayew never signed? Do I think Harry Winks is a bellend? Yes, yes, yes.

 

What will improve if fans spend the summer adding to multiple hundred-plus (and rising) page hate threads about these topics? Absolutely nothing. 

 

My point is we won't magic up a new owner, build a Jordan Ayew-resistant time machine or change Harry Winks' personality by adding a 382nd page to those threads. And neither will adding a 9th thread about not liking the new manager.

 

This is the last I'll post on the topic for reasons of spiralling that I've mentioned earlier, and obviously people who disagree with me aren't going to change their minds, which is fine.

 

Cheers everyone and have a nice evening. Great weather and the World Cup's on - happy days! 

I wish you a full and speedy recovery from your depression. 

 

As mentioned, it feels clear your intentions are good. 

It might well help people to get all that negativity off their chest - posting on a forum can have the same cathartic effect as screaming into a pillow. 

 

Probably best if you just avoid those threads altogether - in fact, I'd argue it's a bit naïve to think that a thread labeled Harry Winks, Jordan Ayew and King Power Out etc will contain anything you'd appreciate in your current situation.

[Raspeir]

22 minutes ago, LeePhilpottsBaldSpot said:

Personally – I live with depression, and toxic environments hit me fast. I spiral easily. The club and its community have been a massive support for me. This forum is usually my best outlet for that in the summer, and while criticism is fine my point is about relentless negativity. Either about old topics or about just anything about the club (friendlies are wrong, new manager already written off).

 

For the club - a toxic atmosphere makes recovery harder. How can fans share in a team's success but not think they can influence things at all when the team is struggling?

 

Last year our away results (17th) were unacceptable, but the home results (22nd) are actually what relegated us. That's not saying it was all on the fans, but a toxic atmosphere makes a bad situation even worse.

 

Would I take a new owner? Do I wish Jordan Ayew never signed? Do I think Harry Winks is a bellend? Yes, yes, yes.

 

What will improve if fans spend the summer adding to multiple hundred-plus (and rising) page hate threads about these topics? Absolutely nothing. 

 

My point is we won't magic up a new owner, build a Jordan Ayew-resistant time machine or change Harry Winks' personality by adding a 382nd page to those threads. And neither will adding a 9th thread about not liking the new manager.

 

This is the last I'll post on the topic for reasons of spiralling that I've mentioned earlier, and obviously people who disagree with me aren't going to change their minds, which is fine.

 

Cheers everyone and have a nice evening. Great weather and the World Cup's on - happy days! 

 

The OP makes a very good point, which it really feels worthy of considering - not that we are to blame - but that we do genuinely have the ability to impact the situation and the outcome of a game and season.

 

We are all in a position, each time we take our seats, that we (as individuals) have almost no control over the outcome of the matches we are watching. That's the hardest thing about being a fan. However as a collective, we genuinely can make a massive positive difference. The die-hard fans are the most vocal, and the ones that generally set that tone for the whole stadium, and those are the people with the biggest opportunity to shift the narrative.

 

That's not to dismiss the pain of sitting through what we've all witnessed. It was horrible, and has been for some time. We've all got the same frustrations with the lack of respect both club and fans have been shown by players and senior management alike. That however can now be consigned to history, if we put it behind us.

 

We now, have an opportunity to shift that narrative. Each of us, and we as a collective, get to make a choice as to how we greet the new season, each player old and new, and the team as a whole. If we get behind them, we can make a huge positive difference. 

 

We get a chance at a fresh start - just as others at the club get. Shifting our collective mindset and the overall narrative could genuinely be the difference between an amazing season, and another painful one.

 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

1 hour ago, LeePhilpottsBaldSpot said:

 That's not saying it was all on the fans, but a toxic atmosphere makes a bad situation even worse.

 

 

What's the answer then? What are you suggesting changes in the ground? The support in the ground in the run in was fine until the players gave up then they rightly got dragged. 

 

What is the solution?

[rugbyblue]

10 hours ago, shen said:

How ironic to retort with a fully toxic post. You're no better than those you spite when you communicate like this. 

You often find self proclaimed liberals are only liberal if you agree with them.

[Great Boos Up]

Div 1 is a ****ing disgrace. End of. Not editing my language. I’ll support the new manager and players like always. I’m not toxic. No speeches. 

[Great Boos Up]

1 minute ago, Great Boos Up said:

Div 1 is a ****ing disgrace. End of. Not editing my language. I’ll support the new manager and players like always. I’m not toxic. No speeches. 

I did write the full F word and stand by it.

[OnlyOneCity]

7 hours ago, orangecity23 said:

 

So by "way is different" I guess that actually means even more toxic and insulting of other fans than those that boo. Seems to be quite a bit of subsidence on that moral high ground you think you're on, starting to look more like standing at bottom of a hole with your head in the sand.

Don’t actually get your drift. I am not on any moral high ground at all. Disliking the animosity between fans of the same club does not equate with your assumptions.

[LCFCJohn]

11 hours ago, steveb said:

I already see hate from the same old knuckle dragging Reform voting spite and hate brigade here for the new manager.

Unreal he can`t possibly have done anything to deserve it, he hasn`t even started the job ffs.

same old toxic twats.

So yes, i agree with the poster, the fans are 15% to blame, hopefully those 15% of scumbags will pee off and support some other unfortunate club by spreding their hate there.

What the f*** has politics got to do with whether you think Leicester are being run into the ground or that Martin is a crap choice for manager?

 

I think Aiyawatt is the worst owner in English football and needs to foxtrot Oscar. I also think Rudkin should be nowhere near a professional football club. I think Martin is a fraud of a manager and will fail here (not what I want, what I think). I also think Reform and every one of their voters are Neanderthals. 
 

So you don’t really have a point do you? 

[orangecity23]

15 minutes ago, OnlyOneCity said:

Don’t actually get your drift. I am not on any moral high ground at all. Disliking the animosity between fans of the same club does not equate with your assumptions.

Point is you have implied that the insults are only going in one direction - towards Top, Rudkin etc. And that the other type of fan has a "different way" than those hurling insults - but as evidenced by the other post quoted, that different way seems to be just as toxic, and contains plenty of venom towards fans of the club who are expressing their discontent with the current running of it. So not really "different" at all.

[LCFCJohn]

7 hours ago, peach0000 said:

The fans on this forum or at least a very vocal minority are toxic and seem to genuinely enjoy criticizing everything and being negative. Foxes Talk has never represented the majority of fans who are much more level headed reasonable people in my experience. I read the forum from time to time but I rarely participate anymore due to the toxicity of a minority who I feel don’t let genuine debate take place with their absolutism (in a negative way) about everything. 

This forum is actually up there with the best and visiting guests of other clubs have said as much. Many clubs forums are toxic cesspits to the point a supporter of another club gets dogs abuse for even bothering to post.

 

Even those with the strongest views against the ownership and running of the club (I’d class myself as one of them) can have a rant about this and jump on another thread and have a good old debate about footballing matters or otherwise. 
 

Id say it’s also unfair to suggest Foxes Talk contains supporters who are not level headed. Compared to who? Those in the ground? Those on Facebook? Most of these can’t even reply to explain why they think things at the club don’t need to change. You can question the repetitive nature of what is said on this forum sure. But the fact is, those debating it on here do just that, debate and have arguments and points to back up their opinions. Respectfully, if you don’t think debate happens and it is not a level headed place of discussion, it seems maybe you just don’t like the conclusions of the discussion maybe?

[Manwell Pablo]

5 hours ago, murphy said:

And yet you have just written by far the most hateful post on this thread 

I’ve never voted Tory never mind reform. 
 

Dick heads like Stevie make me happy I live in Sheffield. 
 

 

[chuck'em]

Some fundamental flaws in the OP here.

 

3 groups that all blame the other 2? When have we seen the board criticise the players or vice versa?

The board blame the rules. The board never blame the players because that would bring scrutiny on the people who hired them. The board blame a manager when they sack him. Then they appoint another, then sack him. We could get fully behind the board but it's not going to solve the fact that they are incompetent. In any other job if you continually hired for a role and had to dismiss that person within the year you'd get the sack. We promoted that guy. 

 

There is no accountability above or below the manager in the club currently and if we as fans just accept it then the club is well and truly dead. 

[Reg Vardy]

Reference fans and their influence…it’s amazing when 30,000 people get right behind a team it enhances performance, when 20,000 give nothing but criticism it doesn’t detract from performance. 

[OnlyOneCity]

32 minutes ago, orangecity23 said:

Point is you have implied that the insults are only going in one direction - towards Top, Rudkin etc. And that the other type of fan has a "different way" than those hurling insults - but as evidenced by the other post quoted, that different way seems to be just as toxic, and contains plenty of venom towards fans of the club who are expressing their discontent with the current running of it. So not really "different" at all.

The malicious insults are going in the direction of Top and Rudkin but also to fans  who try to show support for Leicester City which  is actually not toxic. I am not defending Top or Rudkin and wish that they would leave our club. The fans who have desisted from booing the club have been demonised by those who choose to boo anything to do with City.