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Posted
1 hour ago, Lillehamring said:

You can't really say it's 'different' as we, as yet, have nothing to compare it with - there's no reason why we wouldn't end up being bought by similar types (i mooted here a swift/kelce buy out - not beyond the realms of possiblity).

 

And your last comment is exactly why we could be picked up in a similar 'show biz' deal - we ARE a known quantity, we do have the 7th biggest social media bit in england, we aren't just an ordinary provincial mediocre club.   There's no greater example of the "romance of fan culture and British football" than 15/16.  And thus why we ARE still a big draw to potential investors, probably why the valuation is unusually high for a L1 club. 

 

Not that we need celebrities to transform us into something interesting, 15/16 has already done that.  If you look at the club as an outsider, investors who haven't been polluted by the local toxicity - there's a lot to be said for us a cheap purchase with great possibilities.

To add to what you have said really.

 

Within this country, we are seen as an unfashionable, provincial side as there is a fascination with sleeping giants or what happened prior to the PL (football existed before 1992 etc). The latter point is a sentiment I agree with. But it is also the reason why Sheffield Wednesday are considered a sleeping giant, Forest and Leeds think they are massive etc.

 

Reality is, the global markets, such as America, don’t even know who these clubs are or give a crap. Those clubs haven’t done anything is decades and either then, minor league cups. 
 

We are much more known and appealing to those markets but that luxury might start to wear out now due to the collapse and the time that is starting to pass.

Posted
36 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

I don't actually think this holds up any more to be honest. This has been a popular brag amongst our fanbase for a while.

 

Modern statisticians looking at social media data don't arbitrarily look at simply follower counts and leave it at that. Generally speaking, people very rarely un-follow something they've followed. The vast majority of our "followers" are people that pressed one button, once, ten years ago and haven't engaged with LCFC since. 

 

The data will show that. This idea that we're the 7th most popular club in England is just silly and make believe.

 

That's fair enough, no doubt many have forgotten why they even started to follow.  But given the power of social media, having a pre-established following of 25M is no bad thing. It's a figure that money can't buy - any new owner will come in with a view of being in the PL, if they achieve that, it's much easier to get the attention of those already following than to try to gain anywhere near that many new followers.  Proof of that is, despite all the media focus, wrexham still only have 1.5 million followers on instagram.

 

Also, if you look at the figures from 2023-24 (see link)  we still ranked 11th in england, with +2.2M new followers in that period.   So maybe not as silly or make believe as you think.

 

https://football-observatory.com/WeeklyPost467

Posted
45 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

To add to what you have said really.

 

Within this country, we are seen as an unfashionable, provincial side as there is a fascination with sleeping giants or what happened prior to the PL (football existed before 1992 etc). The latter point is a sentiment I agree with. But it is also the reason why Sheffield Wednesday are considered a sleeping giant, Forest and Leeds think they are massive etc.

 

Reality is, the global markets, such as America, don’t even know who these clubs are or give a crap. Those clubs haven’t done anything is decades and either then, minor league cups. 
 

We are much more known and appealing to those markets but that luxury might start to wear out now due to the collapse and the time that is starting to pass.

Sure, the recent performances have not helped, and figures and popularity are beginning to drop - they can't afford to stay out of the news long - but even the double relegation has kept us in the public eye.  

Posted
9 minutes ago, Lillehamring said:

Sure, the recent performances have not helped, and figures and popularity are beginning to drop - they can't afford to stay out of the news long - but even the double relegation has kept us in the public eye.  

No such thing as bad publicity :ph34r:

 

But yeah, we are the ultimately bipolar club rather than being bland.

 

Ultimately we are a lot more relevant than clubs like Forest.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

No such thing as bad publicity :ph34r:

 

But yeah, we are the ultimately bipolar club rather than being bland.

 

Ultimately we are a lot more relevant than clubs like Forest.

Come on, surely the Florists are relevant.

 

I mean they apparently won two European Cups when Thomas Shelby was a nipper!

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Posted
1 minute ago, Lineker's Left Foot said:

Come on, surely the Florists are relevant.

 

I mean they apparently won two European Cups when Thomas Shelby was a nipper!

Like Uruguay winning the World Cup when there were like 4 teams in it lol

 

As I say, the global markets remember what happened recently so whatever happened in the 1970’s is long past being relevant outside this country. 

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Posted
Just now, LCFCJohn said:

Like Uruguay winning the World Cup when there were like 4 teams in it lol

 

As I say, the global markets remember what happened recently so whatever happened in the 1970’s is long past being relevant outside this country. 

Yep THEY DEFINITELY live on the past!

Posted
4 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

Like Uruguay winning the World Cup when there were like 4 teams in it lol

 

As I say, the global markets remember what happened recently so whatever happened in the 1970’s is long past being relevant outside this country. 

To 90% of the world football started in 1992 apart from Maradona and Brazil. 

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Posted
26 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

What would've changed if Vichai and Susan Whelan were still around?

 

I don't think we'd have sunk like we have and you'd think we'd be a bit more prudent but if the helicopter crash hadn't happened I'd imagine we'd basically be Everton or something. Bobbling about 14th in the league sacking a manager every year, bringing in another uninspiring name just on a loop

Posted
1 hour ago, Wymsey said:

What would've changed if Vichai and Susan Whelan were still around?

Vichai had the business sense to see the mess we were getting into and stopped it 

Posted
4 hours ago, LCFCJohn said:

To add to what you have said really.

 

Within this country, we are seen as an unfashionable, provincial side as there is a fascination with sleeping giants or what happened prior to the PL (football existed before 1992 etc). The latter point is a sentiment I agree with. But it is also the reason why Sheffield Wednesday are considered a sleeping giant, Forest and Leeds think they are massive etc.

 

Reality is, the global markets, such as America, don’t even know who these clubs are or give a crap. Those clubs haven’t done anything is decades and either then, minor league cups. 
 

We are much more known and appealing to those markets but that luxury might start to wear out now due to the collapse and the time that is starting to pass.

Forest Internationally live off the publicity gained due to Robin Hood 

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Posted
13 minutes ago, Lineker's Left Foot said:

Fwiw, someone on Bentleys has said that Red Bull representatives are at the match on Saturday.

I just don't see it

RB already have Leeds 

They can't change a name (in this country), and they'll be limited as to what could be re-named in this country.

Why would they want two clubs in one country?

Posted
18 minutes ago, Lineker's Left Foot said:

Fwiw, someone on Bentleys has said that Red Bull representatives are at the match on Saturday.

I'll mention this AGAIN!

It's the same person making all the posts about Red Bull and he's yet to get anything correct.

Posted
3 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said:

I just don't see it

RB already have Leeds 

They can't change a name (in this country), and they'll be limited as to what could be re-named in this country.

Why would they want two clubs in one country?

They own 10% of Leeds so easy enough to offload.

They must have known rules in this country prohibit the branding of football clubs but still went ahead and bought into Leeds.

 

I still think it's all unicorn droppings.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, hackneyfox said:

They own 10% of Leeds so easy enough to offload.

They must have known rules in this country prohibit the branding of football clubs but still went ahead and bought into Leeds.

 

I still think it's all unicorn droppings.

Yes. I think we're saying the same thing.

The point I guess I'm making is that, due to 'the rules' in this country, I don't think it fits RB's business model to purchase a club out right in this country.

Posted
14 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said:

I just don't see it

RB already have Leeds 

They can't change a name (in this country), and they'll be limited as to what could be re-named in this country.

Why would they want two clubs in one country?

Leeds.

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