Nationwider Posted 15 May 2006 Posted 15 May 2006 From religion to scotch eggs in 22 steps. Sensational work fellas. Am going to have call it a night now. Night night God bless (steering the conversation vaguely back on topic hoping no-one will notice the ever so slight detour ) Neatly done.
The People's Hero Posted 15 May 2006 Posted 15 May 2006 We picked up the thread, toyed with it for a bit.. when we were finished, we put it back on track. Our fun had been had, no animals, children or fellow posters had been harmed in anyway and the thread was left to meander it's why in to a natural and perhaps timely demise never to be spoken of again. The inevitability of it all is quite quite beautiful to the trained eye.
Dr The Singh Posted 16 May 2006 Posted 16 May 2006 Just to put the topic\thread on track, my religion is Sikhism, but i'm not a baptised or practicising Sikh, otherwise known a a Sajdhari Sikh (a follower of the faith but not practicing). Jut to add Sikhs believe in one god, word Sikhism means 'learner' (to learn), in the sense of life\mankind\good deeds etc Religion in a socialogical term is a tool used to control human beings, so it has in the past done a good job of it, but man kind has used religion to do alot of bad things aswell. Today, mankind has had alot of scientific advancements and has got to a stage where we question religion and the requirement for religion as an answer to all unkown question is not that neccessary. But untill the answer of what happens when we die is found, religion will still be around!!!
Guest Posted 16 May 2006 Posted 16 May 2006 I'm not religious. But I do believe those profiteroles Nayshe left on the side taste funny.
Katy Posted 16 May 2006 Posted 16 May 2006 It can only happen in General Chat! I dont know whether to attempt to get the topic back on track or add some random comment regarding buffets of the GC persuasion, that is the problem I have with religion. I have a similar belief to Bert and TPH actually. When I used to stay at my Grans we used to say the Lords Prayer and then a prayer to ask for the family to be safe and that. I carried this on for years and years until I started to do bad mental things and decided I was being hypocritical so I stopped. Hmmm I live in a haze of guilt - God please help me
Strokes Posted 16 May 2006 Posted 16 May 2006 The thing that gets too me most about Religion is if you do not follow, you don't seem to get the same rights or consessions of a believer. It is most hypocritical that we are expected to make exceptions to people because of their beliefs and are branded racist or ignorant if we don't, and then get preached to by the same people about equallity. Maybe i'm to thick to understand.
Katy Posted 16 May 2006 Posted 16 May 2006 The thing that gets too me most about Religion is if you do not follow, you don't seem to get the same rights or consessions of a believer. It is most hypocritical that we are expected to make exceptions to people because of their beliefs and are branded racist or ignorant if we don't, and then get preached to by the same people about equallity. Maybe i'm to thick to understand. It's a complex subject, does anybody actually really understand it? They may understand fully what their own belief is, but have trouble grasping other peoples.
Nationwider Posted 16 May 2006 Posted 16 May 2006 It's a complex subject, does anybody actually really understand it? They may understand fully what their own belief is, but have trouble grasping other peoples. Grasping and accepting.
Strokes Posted 16 May 2006 Posted 16 May 2006 It's a complex subject, does anybody actually really understand it? They may understand fully what their own belief is, but have trouble grasping other peoples. I think people would have less of a problem with religion, if we were all governed to the same rules. These rules should not be based on any religious beliefs and should take into account the morals of the majority of the population including athiests. If only it were that simple eh
hairy Posted 16 May 2006 Posted 16 May 2006 The very fabric of socitey is based on religion. In ours it is based on the ten commandments and the old testiment. The problem is these purist ideals have been twisted and stretched by religious and political leaders over the years. Religion now, in its political role, is used as a way of division which ultimately leads to conflict around the world. Its not a new thing. Its a catalyst the politicians have been using for hundreds of years to met their ends. Unfortunately these divisions have been so exploited by the politicians it has led to extremism and the state we are in today. To me religion is a good thing as people appear to draw great strength from it. However I get my strength from 3 weetabix every morning.
Rincewind Posted 16 May 2006 Posted 16 May 2006 I've just had a sign. I laboured about 10 minutes typing out a 3 plus paragraph reply when a main fuse went and I lost all my flats power and the message. If there is a God I've just been told nobody wants to read my boring monologues. Suffice to say I agree with TPH. The rest I've forgotten.
Head Honcho Posted 16 May 2006 Posted 16 May 2006 Religion is for the weak. Too weak to understand or believe that after life cometh death.
vanfox12 Posted 22 May 2006 Posted 22 May 2006 The trouble is most of us don't follow the ten commandments and often commit at least one if not all of the 7 so called 7 Deadly sins. I look at this way no one is perfect and if we all at least try to do some good the world would be a better place.
Cobbo Posted 22 May 2006 Posted 22 May 2006 The lord gives and the lords takes away, well the lord can kiss my ass.
davieG Posted 22 May 2006 Posted 22 May 2006 It's a complex subject, does anybody actually really understand it? They may understand fully what their own belief is, but have trouble grasping other peoples. To go back off topic again I'm sure there are many out there that have no trouble grasping other peoples..........
The People's Hero Posted 21 November 2006 Posted 21 November 2006 I worked religion out the other day. It's all done with smoke, mirrors and barely visible pieces of fine thread.
The People's Hero Posted 21 November 2006 Posted 21 November 2006 Oh lovely, the religion thread is back It's alright. I've solved it. I've effectively put it to bed, like a small child.
Stevosevic Posted 21 November 2006 Posted 21 November 2006 To be honest, i dont think much of religion as it causes so much conflict in the world.
Wycombe Fox Posted 21 November 2006 Posted 21 November 2006 You've gone and done it now! Resurrecting a thread about religion! I'm not religious. It was forced upon me as a pupil at C of E Schools as a youngster and that's the basis of my beef with religion - the imposition of one person's belief onto another person. In Religious Studies, I learnt only about C of E - I really would have liked to have learnt the basics about other religions to give me a broader understanding. Religion itself isn't a problem. It only becomes a problem when one faith collides with another. Be Church of England, follow Catholicism, Islam etc etc but respect everybody's right to have a choice. And another thing...what's the Church of England all about? It's more business than religion. Please correct me if I'm wrong but aren't the Church of England a PLC? Aren't they one of the richest with all the land and property that they own? "Please, please Mr. Gullible, we're poor and need a new roof. Please donate to the church" They own shopping centres nationwide yet they can't fund the upkeep of the 'offices' of their supposedly 'core' business? My sister asked me to be my niece's Godfather. I asked if one of the recitals could be changed from 'promising to raise the child in accordance with the teachings of Jesus Christ' to 'promising to raise the child in accordance with morally and socially acceptable values'. Nothing doing there so I had to turn her down. During the baptism service the vicar said that he understood that there would be people in the church who were not of a religious persuasion and not to be hypocritical by chanting the recitals yet when the first effort was so quiet, he did them again and emplored everyone to chant regardless of hypocrisy!! Along comes the second hymn during which he sent out the collecting plate. At the end of the hymn the plate was brought to him whereupon he thumbed through the cash, asked the congregation if we knew how much it cost to run a church and suggested that we sing the same hymn again and dig a little deeper into our pockets!! Cheeky bugger, having already paid for the service! I suggested he get in touch with his Board of Directors. Sorry about that everyone, rant over now. Time for the pills before beddy-byes.
lookwhaticando Posted 21 November 2006 Posted 21 November 2006 I attended a CoE school in my childhood - from Year 4 to Year 6 - two and a half years of education in a CoE school. Can't honestly say I had religion foisted onto me. Perhaps I missed that bit by joining late. The only different was saying grace before lunch. That was it as far as I recall. And the leaving present for the year 6's on their way up to secondary school a few weeks later was a copy of 'The Good News Bible' - which I still have. It's not as if they taught us nothing but religious shit... actually, I can't remember them even teaching religion at all. A few subtle points made it a CoE school - the fact it was yards away from, and named after the village's church and the saying of grace was about it.
Thracian Posted 21 November 2006 Posted 21 November 2006 Certainly the use of religion to manipulate and use people is an abomination. To me the question is what is the purpose of life - is it pre-ordained or do we naturally find or fail to find our own purpose?. For me I try to follow some personally imposed basic rules of decency and to help, where possible, to assist the pursuit of good over evil however hard those concepts are to define. Although I had a fairly religious upbinging I have never brought my sons up other than to treat people and animals and our planet in the sort of way they would wished had they created those things. Furthermore I rarely question my sons' principles. I wouldn't dream of judging them or seeking to dictate to them. They are unconditionally guaranteed any help and support I can give whether they return home with AIDS, annnounce they've"come out", slaughtered a policeman or anything else. I have simply tried to offer an example however worthy or otherwise. The only change in my basic outlook happened as a result of a vivid dream my wife had before her life-threatening brain operation. The most startling thing to me was that she had virtually no memory by that time yet her dream was so vivid that, for the first time in her life, she woke me up and described it to me. What happened doesn't really matter, my wife is an extremely private person. But it did focus my mind and I have tried to follow my rules more conscientiously ever since.
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