davieG Posted 7 October 2006 Author Posted 7 October 2006 I appreciate this Davie, but the amount of threads repeating the same thing, and posters repeating themselves in the threads is getting a bit much now, don't you reckon? Look, even I've done it now by saying this twice today It is getting a bit repetitive they should rename the task merging to mandering, I've done so many.
Daggers Posted 7 October 2006 Posted 7 October 2006 It is getting a bit repetitive they should rename the task merging to mandering, I've done so many. I don't miss that at all
Lineker's Left Foot Posted 7 October 2006 Posted 7 October 2006 I think that cos F*rest are in League and the sh**p sh*ggers have just been bought by a consortium, we are the most attractive proposition in the East Midlands. However our location also makes us quite attractive?? As a club, we have a potentially large fanbase area we can tap into. Especially if you consider the whole of Rutland (along the A47) and even further going towards Peterborough. We can also attract potential fans from the Rugby area as well and further past Loughborough up towards N*ttingham. We are a bigger club than the media gives us credit for and we could one day become an established Premiership club under Milan and even challenge in the top 6?? Up the City
Wils Posted 7 October 2006 Posted 7 October 2006 Top 6 of Premiership pffft Dont get carried away... :pinch:
Fez of Mahrez Posted 7 October 2006 Posted 7 October 2006 Top 6 of Premiership pffft Dont get carried away... :pinch: Quite. Wildly overoptimistic expectations don't help anyone in our situation. We need to get ourselves sorted and think about the Premiership when we can afford to sign a player or two worthy of such ambitions. And what's all this starting new topics about Mandaric? Do you not share the same dream? One vision, one topic.
Wils Posted 7 October 2006 Posted 7 October 2006 I think we need to be able to beat the likes of Hull and Colchester before we think about anything.
ithuriel Posted 7 October 2006 Posted 7 October 2006 because i cant make every game i will be happy to see a home win in the league. ive seen plenty of draws and defeats but the last home win i saw , i cant remember who it was was certainly the season before last.
Daggers Posted 7 October 2006 Posted 7 October 2006 Ahhh...but Leeds are in the Top 10 Places to Invest - we aren't!
ithuriel Posted 7 October 2006 Posted 7 October 2006 Ahhh...but Leeds are in the Top 10 Places to Invest - we aren't! leicester is quite a good place to invest and the ammount of construction going on shows this. we are in a pretty central position , are relatively near london , birmingham etc., and have an airport within the county. even if it is named after notting ham
Joe. Posted 7 October 2006 Posted 7 October 2006 We have great stadium, Good support Very good youth set up Good training facilities You can see why Milan may want to buy us... But I'm a realist and come on- premiership? We can't even beat Colchester and Hull at home Yes Milan would give us some cash, but it's what is done with it that matters. Peter Taylor ring any bells?
Swedging Posted 7 October 2006 Posted 7 October 2006 Yes Milan would give us some cash, but it's what is done with it that matters. Peter Taylor ring any bells? Yup. And other than 'Arry, Mandaric's other managers didn't do much good.
Thracian Posted 7 October 2006 Posted 7 October 2006 Yup. And other than 'Arry, Mandaric's other managers didn't do much good. He's a rich man - what about cloning Redknapp?.
lildave3 Posted 7 October 2006 Posted 7 October 2006 He's a rich man - what about cloning Redknapp?. I wonder if Jamie Redknapp would be any good as a manager? I'm Sure 'arry would give him tips and keep checking up on him.
lookwhaticando Posted 8 October 2006 Posted 8 October 2006 I wonder if Jamie Redknapp would be any good as a manager? I'm Sure 'arry would give him tips and keep checking up on him. Teach him how to take a backhander? Yeah, he'd excel at that.
Tubes Posted 8 October 2006 Posted 8 October 2006 Teach him how to take a backhander? Yeah, he'd excel at that.
Manwell Pablo Posted 8 October 2006 Posted 8 October 2006 Alright me research project is finished, well it's still ongoing but I have some results . France, land of Garlic, Cheese, nob heads who think that their language is the dogs and any one who doesn't speak it is the devil incarnate, and Nice. A club formally owned by Milan Manadric. We all know what the Portsmouth fans think, so I though I'd pop over to Nice's forum and find out what ze frogs have to say about our clubs potential saviour. Intresting results. Zoutalor Translation. Bonjour Nice! Désolé que mon français est mauvais : -/ une question pour ceux-làde vous qui vous rappèle 1998 : -) Mon équipe est Leicester city en angleterre, et Milan Manadric pourrait acheter notre club. Nous savons que Portsmouth FC a fait bon pendant qu'il était là-bas, j'aimerais vous demander que vous pensez àMilan ? A-t-il obtenu de bons directeurs (les entraîneurs) pour vous ? vous a fait bien pendant qu'il était àNice ? Vous l’aimez comme un homme ? La plupart de Leicester pense qu'il sera bon pour nous, àpart d’Ultra qui est une personne stupide. (blague privée). Merci. Bonne chance pour la Ligue 1. Sorry me French is shite. I have the unfortunate burden of supporting Leicester City, and Mandaric is after us. Portsmouth think he's the best thing since sliced begets, seeing as he used to be in charge of you lot I was wondering what you thought of him, did he employ decent managers? did the team play alright while he was there? did think he was a alright geezer? We all reckon he's the Messiah, except Ultra, he's a nob though. Cheers Good luck but you may as well of given Lyon the Ligue 1 trophy in August. Le passage de Mandaric àNice a été un échec, il a dû revendre le club àdes Italiens. Il était probablement plus capable de diriger un club en Angleterre. Etre président d'un club français quand on ne parle pas un mot de français, c'est un peu gênant Mandarics time at the club was considered a failure and he had to sell the club to some Italians, I think he's better suited to running a club in England. A president of a French football club who can't speak a word of French? Embarrassing. C'était un président assez mystérieux: pratiquement jamais présent sur Nice, il vivait aux Etats-Unis (Californie, si je ne ma trompe pas). Il était arrivé en 96-97 et promettait monts et merveilles (dans certains de ses discours, c'est pas juste si il affirmait que le club allait gagner une coupe d'europe ).Son passage a été un échec (moins que les ritals de Sensi). Il a souvent fait des choix plus ou moins curieux. He was a strange chairman, hardly ever at Nice, He lived in America ( California if im not mistaken ) he arrived at the club in 96-97 and promised Mountains and Marvels ( as said in one of his speeches, in one he claimed the club would win the European cup) his time here was a failure ( not entirely sure what this directly translates as, I think this is some weird French saying basically meaning a very big failure) He made some very strange descions. Not a glowing report card coming from Nice then, I thought he did ok there they didn't get relegated while he was there, I dont think. Might ask them if they were unhappy because they club didn't move foward or because it went backwards
Manwell Pablo Posted 8 October 2006 Posted 8 October 2006 Sterling work Manwell, have a gold star. Well from whats been said it seems he just didn't take the club as far forward as the Nice fans wanted, they keep calling it faliure but its a bit harsh, although if he said they were going to win the Champions league maybe....
Fez of Mahrez Posted 8 October 2006 Posted 8 October 2006 Well from whats been said it seems he just didn't take the club as far forward as the Nice fans wanted, they keep calling it faliure but its a bit harsh, although if he said they were going to win the Champions league maybe bot. To be honest, as I keep saying, I don't see how he can be a failure. He'll give us a solid financial base which we wouldn't otherwise have a cat in hell's chance of getting. It depends what the benchmark is. We can't get much worse.
Swedging Posted 9 October 2006 Posted 9 October 2006 To be honest, as I keep saying, I don't see how he can be a failure. He'll give us a solid financial base which we wouldn't otherwise have a cat in hell's chance of getting. I just can't see that. MM is going to be a gamble: we're almost certainly going to be taking on a lot more debt.
l444ry Posted 9 October 2006 Posted 9 October 2006 I just can't see that. MM is going to be a gamble: we're almost certainly going to be taking on a lot more debt. There has to be some element of a "gamble" if this club is to ever move forward. Whoever takes over would need to speculate to accumulate. And that goes for the current board as well, unless everybody is happy to continue with things as they are at the moment.
Sly Posted 9 October 2006 Posted 9 October 2006 I just can't see that. MM is going to be a gamble: we're almost certainly going to be taking on a lot more debt. Why is that? I read somewhere recently that a major factor why people are buying into English football teams is because of the big payouts made by television contracts. So basically it’s a short term thing really. People don't buy into football clubs for a hobble. At the end of the day every chairman is a business man who is looking for a return on there investment. It’s all about personal gain. Just out of interest does anyone actually know roughly how much it cost MM to take control of Leicester City? People have got very enthusiastic about him buying us because he has spent money previously, which doesn't really mean he’ll, do it again now does it?? On the other side of the coin though, any substantial investment is good investment. The club has a lot of debt and if we could accelerate clearing this off then we can move forwards again. In order for us to do this we would need to be playing Premiership football. At the moment I don't believe we have the required playing staff to get us out of this division!! People talk about potential but Leicester would require major investment so it's all a risk. Maybe the price is right for MM? One thing for certain though is if he is going to purchase Leicester then he'll have a business plan to go with that. That could include management change, playing staff change, marketing change, ticket pricing change, he has to make the club self sufficient at the end of the day if he is to profit. For Leicester to be more substantially profitable would mean an influx of foreign players who are willing to play for less money! This for one doesn't bother me, I just want to see good football being played.
Swedging Posted 9 October 2006 Posted 9 October 2006 Why is that? He doesn't have bottomless pockets. He is reported as haven taken £20 million out of the sale of Portsmouth. It's also been suggested that he pretty much had to sell as he was near enough broke. So a reasonable guess is that after paying CGT/avoidance fees & other expenses, he's got around £17 million. LCFC would probably cost £5-6 million This leaves MM with £11-12 million. How much is he going to put in? Half? That'll be as a loan - so LCFC will now have £5million in the kitty and an extra £5million debt. £5million is nowhere near enough to guarantee promotion - it's way less than apparently Derby, Soton, Brum, West Brom, Sunderland have. So more money will be needed. Say another £5million borrowed from the banks. Now we're up to £10 million extra debt and still not really among the big spenders. I read somewhere recently that a major factor why people are buying into English football teams is because of the big payouts made by television contracts. So basically it’s a short term thing really. People don't buy into football clubs for a hobble. I think you'll find the TV money is in the Prem. And we're in the championship. Is there any way of guaranteeing promotion? Otherwise it's a punt. One thing for certain though is if he is going to purchase Leicester then he'll have a business plan to go with that. That could include management change, playing staff change, marketing change, ticket pricing change, he has to make the club self sufficient at the end of the day if he is to profit. Well, the 3 obvious ways of making a profit are, in order of feasibility: 1. Flog the club on to someone richer. No need to make it profitable there. 2. Strip the club of any remaining assets 3. Put the club on a footing that guarantees steady income streams. How many clubs has that worked for, again? And is there any difference between them and us, such as, say, being a global brand?
Fez of Mahrez Posted 9 October 2006 Posted 9 October 2006 Can surely see a few pro-Mandaric chants next home game, especially as it's against Southampton.
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