The Don Posted 7 September 2006 Posted 7 September 2006 we played Douglas Maybury Nisse Dublin Sheehan Sylla Williams ( i think ) Gudjohnson ( i think ) Hughes De Vries Hammond OMG, What an awful side!!!
Fez of Mahrez Posted 7 September 2006 Posted 7 September 2006 we played Douglas Maybury Nisse Dublin Sheehan Sylla Williams ( i think ) Gudjohnson ( i think ) Hughes De Vries Hammond What a focking awful team that was. And we won that game! I would disagree with every single one of those selections up against the team we are close to being able to put out now. Great minds...
Thracian Posted 7 September 2006 Posted 7 September 2006 And that would both infuriate you as you'd like to see him flourish here, but at the same time make you happy that he is getting a chance and being given an opportunity to show he can play well?? (directed at Thracian) I am frustrated rather than infuriated to see his ability wasted. But for his own future I thought he should have left the club months ago because, for whatever reasons, it wasn't going to happen for him here. Shirtliff will think it's his birthday and from Leicester's point of view we'll probably be losing an option having not solved the problem.
Manwell Pablo Posted 7 September 2006 Posted 7 September 2006 OMG, What an awful side!!! Exactly what I was thinking as I was typing it.
Manwell Pablo Posted 7 September 2006 Posted 7 September 2006 I am frustrated rather than infuriated to see his ability wasted. But for his own future I thought he should have left the club months ago because, for whatever reasons, it wasn't going to happen for him here. Shirtliff will think it's his birthday and from Leicester's point of view we'll probably be losing an option having not solved the problem. So you don't see how this could be good for both player and club at all then.
Wils Posted 7 September 2006 Posted 7 September 2006 OMG, What an awful side!!! How did we win that bloody game!!! Must have been that deadly strikeforce of Elvis and MDV. :pinch:
lcfc_jme Posted 7 September 2006 Posted 7 September 2006 I am frustrated rather than infuriated to see his ability wasted. But for his own future I thought he should have left the club months ago because, for whatever reasons, it wasn't going to happen for him here. Shirtliff will think it's his birthday and from Leicester's point of view we'll probably be losing an option having not solved the problem. Frustration was the word I was thinking, but I thought you felt a little more strongly, seeing as he was one of our promising youth players. It's a great catch for Shirtliff I guess, and if RK does decide to have him back, it'll be of great benefit to us as he will have had a lot of match time and match practice under his belt. Maybe going out there will help him to mature as well. Whatever happens, whether it is good or not for our club remains to be seen, but as for the player, it is definitely a good deal for him... Until he spits his dummy out perhaps
The Don Posted 7 September 2006 Posted 7 September 2006 Exactly what I was thinking as I was typing it. And whats worse - 9 of those players are still city players now!! (Am including deepreeze in this as he'so nly on loan.
Manwell Pablo Posted 7 September 2006 Posted 7 September 2006 And whats worse - 9 of those players are still city players now!! (Am including deepreeze in this as he'so nly on loan. Only two played in our last game though
Thracian Posted 7 September 2006 Posted 7 September 2006 Frustration was the word I was thinking, but I thought you felt a little more strongly, seeing as he was one of our promising youth players. It's a great catch for Shirtliff I guess, and if RK does decide to have him back, it'll be of great benefit to us as he will have had a lot of match time and match practice under his belt. Maybe going out there will help him to mature as well. Whatever happens, whether it is good or not for our club remains to be seen, but as for the player, it is definitely a good deal for him... Until he spits his dummy out perhaps Some people remain temperamental and outspoken all their lives. Look at Roy Keane! In fact I was trying earlier to imagine Keane's reaction to a bit of verbals between players. a) I don't think anyone would have been daft enough to complain to him. b) If he'd heard the remarks he'd have likened them to his own remarks every day of every match he could remember and wondered what the fuss was about. c) Had he been forced to adjudicate he'd probably have left the protagonists in a gym and given them 10 minutes to sort it out - whacked the winner himself - then prescribed extra training for all concerned because of the surplus energy they needed rid of. d) No amount of complaining would have had the slightest effect on the team he chose, except perhaps to end the complainants time at the club. But, that's only speculation.
Thracian Posted 7 September 2006 Posted 7 September 2006 How did we win that bloody game!!! Must have been that deadly strikeforce of Elvis and MDV. :pinch: Quite convincingly and with a lot more panache than we failed to defend an early lead at Hillsborough a few weeks later by voluntarily sitting back on it and so surrendering the game.
Fez of Mahrez Posted 7 September 2006 Posted 7 September 2006 Just dug out Sheffield Wednesday's team photo from before the game.
Louise Posted 7 September 2006 Posted 7 September 2006 we played Douglas Maybury Nisse Dublin Sheehan Sylla Williams Gudjohnson Hughes De Vries Hammond Don't forget that Wilcox came on as a sub too... That was Hughes's first game back sinse Weso took him out in training, and he got a standing ovation when he came off with chants of 'Hughsey' etc. as he played a very good game.
Ric Flair Posted 8 September 2006 Posted 8 September 2006 Don't forget that Wilcox came on as a sub too... That was Hughes's first game back sinse Weso took him out in training, and he got a standing ovation when he came off with chants of 'Hughsey' etc. as he played a very good game. Your absolutely right, i'd say it was his best game he had for Leicester last season from the games I saw of him. He did drift all over the place though that game, but he stamped his authority on a game, which is what we need him to do every game.
Ric Flair Posted 8 September 2006 Posted 8 September 2006 Sheehan's response to his move to Mansfield. Check out the poor spelling of Craig Levein. "Sheehan On Signing"FIELD Mill is a home from home for Leicester City's Irish U21 international defender Alan Sheehan as he begins a month on loan with the Stags today. He is re-united with manager Peter Shirtliff - who gave him his reserve team debut at Leicester - and best friend and ex-Leicester player Stephen Dawson, who he lived with for three years. "Peter gave me my first gave in the reserves at Leicester and played me a few times," said Sheehan, who hails from Athlone. "He was very good to me when he was at Leicester and it's nice to know he rates me enough to bring me here. "It is always nice to know other managers rate you and it is a light at the end of the tunnel if things didn't work out for me at Leicester. I have been here several times to watch Stephen Dawson and he told me how much he is enjoying it. "He said they are lovely people and everyone gets on well. Obviously I have played in a young reserve side at Leicester where the first team is older. But it's great that the first team at Mansfield is a very young one."It is a good young side that plays good football and I am looking forward to it. I have trained with John Mullins at the Irish U21s and I have seen Alex John-Baptiste play a few times. It looks an exciting young team." Sheehan and Dawson were among 15 young players sharing a house in Leicester. But he and Dawson got on so well they eventually moved out and got a house together. "He is my best friend - though he does snore," smiled Sheehan. "I am delighted to see him doing well. Mansfield have given him a chance and he's taken it. I hope I can play as well as he has." Under Craig Levine, Sheehan made the transition to the Leicester first team last season and played four matches, However, an ill-timed groin injury that kept him out for five months plus Levine's departure left him back out in the cold. "It was a badly-timed injury for me," he said. "Craig Levine played me and he was a great manager. But I have played in the pre-season games this season then just been unable to break into the side. I just want to play football and with Mansfield being close and knowing people here it made it an easy decision to come. I just want to get involved and hope I can make a difference. I can't really look beyond the month just yet. I just want to get playing and get match fit again as I have not played a game since that reserve match against Mansfield over a month ago."
Fez of Mahrez Posted 8 September 2006 Posted 8 September 2006 "It is always nice to know other managers rate you and it is a light at the end of the tunnel if things didn't work out for me at Leicester." Not often you see loan signings already talking about moving on from their current clubs, especially youngsters in a higher division when they have already played in the first team. I think he sees this as a way back into regular first team football.
The People's Hero Posted 8 September 2006 Posted 8 September 2006 Sounds like he doesn't really want to stay at City.
davieG Posted 8 September 2006 Posted 8 September 2006 I don't know how accurate it reflects his feelings but it defininately comes across to me as someone who's looking for an out, no mention of RK, yet CL was a great manager it is a light at the end of the tunnel if things didn't work out for me at Leicester I just want to play football and with Mansfield being close and knowing people here it made it an easy decision to come. No mention of the more obvious getting fit to earn a place at LCFC or the like. Edited to say I should write quicker or less if I want my posts to be original & topical
Babylon Posted 8 September 2006 Posted 8 September 2006 I don't know how accurate it reflects his feelings but it defininately comes across to me as someone who's looking for an out, no mention of RK, yet No mention of the more obvious getting fit to earn a place at LCFC or the like. Edited to say I should write quicker or less if I want my posts to be original & topical Fine... he can sod off!!! Probably found his level with them like the much hyped Dawson.
Ric Flair Posted 8 September 2006 Posted 8 September 2006 Fine... he can sod off!!! Probably found his level with them like the much hyped Dawson. It would have been interesting to see what would happen to Dawson if he was at Leicester still. Since he left there has been a big change in youngsters being given a chance. He always impressed me for the reserves, a very similar style of player to Gudjonsson. Constantly running and trying to make things happen, still think he should be at a higher level.
Thracian Posted 8 September 2006 Posted 8 September 2006 I don't quite think it says he's looking for an out - he personally told me at the back end of last season that he wanted to stay at Leicester - but I think what he says reflects a) His utter frustration at not really getting an opportunity. b) The problem between younger players and older players because the older ones, particularly at Leicester, seem to have their own self-protection arrangements as demonstrated by their public call for Kelly to be manager and the team selection at times which persevered with people who honestly weren't justifying their places either under Levein or Kelly. Left-back has been a major weakness but various Chosen Men have been selected there and as I said previously, changes will have to occur for Sheehan to break through. Those changes will inevitably mean that Leicester really will have to focus on fielding a young side. And frankly, from what I've seen of the older players, the sooner the better. Stearman, Kisnorbo, McCarthy, Hume, Fryatt, O'Grady, Wesolowski, Porter, Logan make a reasonable basis but the sooner some others from Gradel, Dodds, Chambers, Andy King and, hopefully still Sheehan also break through the better. Kenton, Johnson, Henderson, Low, McAuley, Hammond and perhaps even Williams might still have a contribution to make but the transition has to happen. Older senior and younger players often find it hard to mix and Leicester's youngsters are very tightly knit which is one of the reasons they play so effectively together. Last season in the reserves it was noticeable that the more genuine youth products there were in the team the better they played. It was only when unknown trialists and non-youth first teamers turned out that their style of play suffered. Only O'Grady fitted in from "outside" - and Hammond who always gave everything. Look at the numbers. That's 14 young players and seven others. It's a decent basis already. And with that being the case, Sheehan's potential loss is totally unnecessary and would be a ridiculous waste of potential considering the alternatives we have.
The People's Hero Posted 8 September 2006 Posted 8 September 2006 Paul Dickov personally told 32,000 people at the Walkers he was staying. I can appreciate why he left after the rape allegations etc and perhaps varying levels of confidence in his innocence which may have offended him.. and certainly he wouldn't want to stay at the club which he associated with that chapter of his life... Anyway, just an example of how footballers tell people what they want to hear, not necessarily what they really want themselves or plan to do themselves.
Thracian Posted 8 September 2006 Posted 8 September 2006 Paul Dickov personally told 32,000 people at the Walkers he was staying. I can appreciate why he left after the rape allegations etc and perhaps varying levels of confidence in his innocence which may have offended him.. and certainly he wouldn't want to stay at the club which he associated with that chapter of his life... Anyway, just an example of how footballers tell people what they want to hear, not necessarily what they really want themselves or plan to do themselves. He was emphatic at the time and now he says he just wants to "get playing and get match fit" - a sure sign that he's not managed to do either at Leicester. That, of course, is another indication of the mess losing League football for the Reserves has left us in and not just because it happened but because no-one seems to have done anything in anticipation of that event. I think we've had one behind closed doors friendly so far.
dandannieldanok Posted 8 September 2006 Posted 8 September 2006 I was disappointed that City let him go out on loan. He is the only proper left-back Leicester have!
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