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I wish someone would tell me what the big attraction is in Pearce as manager?.

At Nottingham Forest he was in charge for 23 games. He won 7 lost 7 and drew nine collecting 30 points from a possible 69 which is pretty dire.

At Manchester City he been in charge for 87 games, won 31, lost 39 and drawn 17 collecting 110 points from a possible 261 which is probably close to the same ratio and totally inconsequential.

Pearce was a decent defender and has lots of worthy qualities. But there's nothing about his management that suggests he should take over at Leicester even if there were a vacancy.

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I wish someone would tell me what the big attraction is in Pearce as manager?.

At Nottingham Forest he was in charge for 23 games. He won 7 lost 7 and drew nine collecting 30 points from a possible 69 which is pretty dire.

At Manchester City he been in charge for 87 games, won 31, lost 39 and drawn 17 collecting 110 points from a possible 261 which is probably close to the same ratio and totally inconsequential.

Pearce was a decent defender and has lots of worthy qualities. But there's nothing about his management that suggests he should take over at Leicester even if there were a vacancy.

Even when the job becomes available! :whistle:

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Considering the circumstances? No money, told to sell players? I would say Leicester were in very similar circumstances and RK has got us higher than Luton! I don't see him as better than RK at all. Would be disapointed if he replaced Kelly!

I agree sort of. I think Kelly's job is slightly easier than Newell's, but only slightly. Like someone said, at least Luton had good players to begin with!

I bet Adams gets the job.

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I agree sort of. I think Kelly's job is slightly easier than Newell's, but only slightly. Like someone said, at least Luton had good players to begin with!

I bet Adams gets the job.

I bet he gets offered it but I don't think he'll take it because he knows he'd be managing a League 1 team next year with no decent players and no money. Not even Mourinho could do that job!

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I bet he gets offered it but I don't think he'll take it because he knows he'd be managing a League 1 team next year with no decent players and no money. Not even Mourinho could do that job!

on the other hand he would be drawing a wage instead of sitting on his arse for nothing.

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Rather have newell that pearce,

Pearce doesn't seem clever enough if you ask me, has passion yes but good manager not so sure.

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Why is it we're looking for experience on the pitch, but not on the touchline?

Why do we clamour for players who know all about the division and how to push on, yet we keep suggesting managers who've never managed at or above our level? :dunno:

At least Dowie had managed promotion and managed in the premiership.

Granted he failed (twice) in the top flight, but at least he tried. Unlike Newell and half the other names being banded about. :ph34r:

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I wouldn't like him coming here. For a start I think no team should sell their best players unless they absolutely have to. I'm guessing Luton didn't have to. Without their best players, look where it's go them.

A manager should keep the team together not get rid of the best. There's plenty more fish in the sea than Mike Newell. He's not exactly worked amazing wonders at Luton or anything.

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I wouldn't like him coming here. For a start I think no team should sell their best players unless they absolutely have to. I'm guessing Luton didn't have to. Without their best players, look where it's go them.

A manager should keep the team together not get rid of the best. There's plenty more fish in the sea than Mike Newell. He's not exactly worked amazing wonders at Luton or anything.

The actions of the Luton board make you not want Newell? :blink:

The board chose to sell the players... and Newell has (belatedly) thrown his toys out of the pram as a result. :whistle:

Still... I agree in principle, I don't want him. :ph34r:

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I wish someone would tell me what the big attraction is in Pearce as manager?.

At Nottingham Forest he was in charge for 23 games. He won 7 lost 7 and drew nine collecting 30 points from a possible 69 which is pretty dire.

At Manchester City he been in charge for 87 games, won 31, lost 39 and drawn 17 collecting 110 points from a possible 261 which is probably close to the same ratio and totally inconsequential.

Pearce was a decent defender and has lots of worthy qualities. But there's nothing about his management that suggests he should take over at Leicester even if there were a vacancy.

Holy crap, I find myself agreeing with you for once.

Pearce had one decent season in management and now everyone (including the FA it seems) thinks he's the next best thing. This season Man City have been woeful and none of their expensive (or any for that matter) signings have made an impact. He can't even get his team to score - 20 goals in 28 games is pathetic!

How can anyone say that he'd make a success of it down here?

Pearce??????? For the love of god will someone please explain why you want someone who has failed miserably at their club.

Exactly.

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I wouldn't like him coming here. For a start I think no team should sell their best players unless they absolutely have to. I'm guessing Luton didn't have to. Without their best players, look where it's go them.

A manager should keep the team together not get rid of the best. There's plenty more fish in the sea than Mike Newell. He's not exactly worked amazing wonders at Luton or anything.

Now now Joseph... that's just nonsense. :D

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Pearce would be fine, but only with an experienced assistant manager alongside him.

Theres talk of Peter Reid replacing Pearce at Man City :blink:

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I certainly wouldn't take Pearce on as manager. Just go ask one of the hundreds of loyal Blue Moon season ticket holders who have been going for 30 years and have seen some utter shite as far down as League 1, and have decided this season was too much for them to bear, what they think of his stewardship.

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Newells been screwed over by Luton make no mistake, let us not forget that these great players their board have kindly sold on were sold on without his wanting.

Having said that Whether or not it was him or the board that made the descicion not to bring any players in in January is very much in question. He's offered contracts to a lot of the current first team suggesting he thinks their good enough to keep Luton in the Championship.

Whether or not he was lucky with the good players he had at the club :dunno: depends on your opinion, Curtis Davis made it through to the first team under Newell after being released by Wimbledon, Carlos Edwards and Rowan Vine were both singed by him for pitance. The only player who was there when Newell arrived was Steve Howard, and he improved so much under Newell, he's been in the game for years and he was nothing but a lower league striker until Newell came to Luton. I don't believe he was lucky I believe he did a damn good job.

I think this topic belongs in general sport, I really do not see the point in discussing potential managerial targets when we already have a manager whether he deserves to be our manager or not.

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From the points raised about him not being the ones who actually sold the players I was probably too hasty in my judgement. If this is the case he has been extremely unlucky.

Carlos Edwards to Sunderland

Curtis Davies to West Brom

Steve Howard to Derby

Rowan Vine to Birmingham

Now all these players have gone to teams who are going for automatic promotion. Also, they went for large sums of money. Now the board must surely have had some cash to give to Newell. They were stupid enough to sell these players in the first place which got them into the mess they are currently in.

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Luton midfielder Ahmet Brkovic said: "I am surprised and disappointed to see him go.

"It is upsetting news, and I want to get in touch with Mike and thank him, because we had a good relationship.

"We need a new manager, but who knows whether the person they appoint will make any difference, because it is not just about the manager.

"As players, we have to take responsibility, because we are the ones who go on to the pitch. Whoever comes in will need the players to give everything to get us out of this situation.

"It will not be easy to keep the club up."

Tell you what Ahmet...lots of people here have been saying that Rob Kelly has worked miracles with a limited budget - so take him. Go on, tell everyone at Luton 'I heard that guy Kelly works miracles with no money'.

Me? I'd have Newell in a shot.

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Newell was my preferred choice when Levein left but it's not been a good last year for him and my main concern now is how easy he now finds it to get players after the bungs controversy he's been involved with.

He was a brave man getting involved. I applaud him. And judging by comments from the man leading the inquiry he was almost certainly right at least to some extent.

But nothing has been proved and nothing looks likely to be proved. Football's ranks closed like a clam as I thought they would.

Now you wonder how easy it is for Newell to do his job. When those top players were sold why has he not been able to find gems for pennies as has previously been his way?

As a potential manager I still think he's among the best mentioned but I wouldn't take the risk on him now. It's simply not worth it.

Other candidates will emerge if we want them. Newell, I feel, will remain at arms length in British football for years yet and maybe the rest of his career.

Football is a very self-protecting business - I've had first hand experience of it in small ways both recently and in the past - and, sadly, that self-protection is necessary if there's a lot to protect.

It won't ever be easy to breach that protection - and partly because I'm not sure the will exists anywhere to do so. Newell might have been right and he might have deserved respect for what he tried to do. But he was also nieve.

It was like believing he could take on the Freemasonry. :whistle:

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Newell was my preferred choice when Levein left but it's not been a good last year for him and my main concern now is how easy he now finds it to get players after the bungs controversy he's been involved with.

He was a brave man getting involved. I applaud him. And judging by comments from the man leading the inquiry he was almost certainly right at least to some extent.

But nothing has been proved and nothing looks likely to be proved. Football's ranks closed like a clam as I thought they would.

Now you wonder how easy it is for Newell to do his job. When those top players were sold why has he not been able to find gems for pennies as has previously been his way?

As a potential manager I still think he's among the best mentioned but I wouldn't take the risk on him now. It's simply not worth it.

Other candidates will emerge if we want them. Newell, I feel, will remain at arms length in British football for years yet and maybe the rest of his career.

Football is a very self-protecting business - I've had first hand experience of it in small ways both recently and in the past - and, sadly, that self-protection is necessary if there's a lot to protect.

It won't ever be easy to breach that protection - and partly because I'm not sure the will exists anywhere to do so. Newell might have been right and he might have deserved respect for what he tried to do. But he was also nieve.

It was like believing he could take on the Freemasonry. :whistle:

You are forgetting one thing Thracian. Milan Mandaric will be making the signings.

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Newell was doing brilliantly - as Thracian said, at the time Levein went he was a good candidate. Luton's fortunes have declined but so would any club with problems. People aren't saying Jose Mourinho is the untouchable managerial god any more since Chelsea started to lose the odd game, but that's not to say Jose has lost his talents.

I'm obviously not comparing Newell with Mourinho, but he is a young manager, ex-Leicester player and now has experience of good and bad times managing a football club. I don't think Rob Kelly deserves the sack at this moment, but if we don't get a few wins between now and the end of the season I think he will be out. In that case, I'd prefer Newell to an Alain Perrin or one of Mandaric's other odd appointments.

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