Bert Posted 5 February 2008 Posted 5 February 2008 It's going to be Terry or Gerrard. A captain isn't just someone who is a great player. A captain, is someone who sticks his neck on the line, gives everything, wears his heart on his sleeve, someone that inspires others, someone that players can go to for advice. It's not all about on the pitch what a captain does.
mancunianfox Posted 5 February 2008 Posted 5 February 2008 P. Neville is mediocre. If you watch hargreaves play then as soon as the opposition is on the ball then he will be on them like lightening. For Utd he is basically a flowered up Michael Carrick with pace who is a better tackler. For England he only used to get slated because the boss at the time played him all over the place - RB & LB for example, wide on the right if i remember rightly? We need him to do the defensive work in the team for England. Gerrard is good going forward (apparently) and Lampard doesn't do a lot apart from being fat. Without Hargreaves we lack creativity because the midfielders roles are restricted in terms off of attacking. I think he could be an outsider for the captaincy I don't want to turn this into yet another Gerrard v Lampard debate but Lampard is one of the best midfielders in the Premiership and has performed at that level consistantly for years now. He has also done more for England than Gerrard has. The only reason Lampard gets slagged off so much is because he doesn't play for media golden boys Liverpool.
Tommy G Posted 5 February 2008 Posted 5 February 2008 It's going to be Terry or Gerrard. A captain isn't just someone who is a great player. A captain, is someone who sticks his neck on the line, gives everything, wears his heart on his sleeve, someone that inspires others, someone that players can go to for advice. It's not all about on the pitch what a captain does. For Clubs they are inspiring....but for England I'm not so sure...
LeeCovFox Posted 5 February 2008 Posted 5 February 2008 It's going to be Terry or Gerrard. A captain isn't just someone who is a great player. A captain, is someone who sticks his neck on the line, gives everything, wears his heart on his sleeve, someone that inspires others, someone that players can go to for advice. It's not all about on the pitch what a captain does. You're right, but only to an extent. Of course, a captain needs to lead by example off the pitch, but they cannot be a truly successful captain if they are not capable of doing the same on the pitch, both in terms of discipline and ability.
purpleronnie Posted 5 February 2008 Posted 5 February 2008 I don't think it matters who is captain its always been a big deal in england but the rest of the world dont really care who is their captain. I just care about results. It does (judging from the papers) look like capello has stamped his authority on the players, no wags (thank god), no mobile phones, better diets, curfew, suits instead of tracksuits, bed at 10pm, increased training sessions, no agents, no hangers on etc..... Thats how it should habve been before. The worst bit about the last world cup was seeing pictures of players and their wags shopping before games, I guarantee you italy players weren't doing that.
Manwell Pablo Posted 5 February 2008 Posted 5 February 2008 For Clubs they are inspiring....but for England I'm not so sure... But you think a German lady boy with a curly perm is inspiring? If Owen Hargreaves is named England captin I shall take Scottish citizenship.
LeeCovFox Posted 5 February 2008 Posted 5 February 2008 I don't want to turn this into yet another Gerrard v Lampard debate but Lampard is one of the best midfielders in the Premiership and has performed at that level consistantly for years now. He has also done more for England than Gerrard has. The only reason Lampard gets slagged off so much is because he doesn't play for media golden boys Liverpool. I think one of the reasons Lampard has been so effective for Chelsea is that his particualr playing style is suited to that which is used by the club. Chelsea can do this, because they have the right sort of players. England I'm afraid, are not good enough to carry out the style of football which has brought Chelsea success over the past 4 years. I think England are a poor side and that our players are overrated all over the pitch, something which is largely fuelled by our tabloid media.
James. Posted 5 February 2008 Posted 5 February 2008 The only reason Lampard gets slagged off so much is because he doesn't play for media golden boys Liverpool. That's not true. He gets slagged off because he goes anonymous in too many England games and doesn't seem willing or able to replicate his club form for his country. People get blinded by the fact he had the most shots in the World Cup or some other stupid statistic. He's rarely had a good game for England. I'm not saying the entire media backlash against him was deserved but he certainly doesnt live up to the same standard as he offers his club, and that is only partly due to the players around him.
mancunianfox Posted 5 February 2008 Posted 5 February 2008 I think one of the reasons Lampard has been so effective for Chelsea is that his particualr playing style is suited to that which is used by the club. Chelsea can do this, because they have the right sort of players. England I'm afraid, are not good enough to carry out the style of football which has brought Chelsea success over the past 4 years. I think England are a poor side and that our players are overrated all over the pitch, something which is largely fuelled by our tabloid media. I don't think it is fuelled by our media though. Many of our squad have been named as some of the top players in the world by FIFA over the last six years and England's squad is thought of highly by many top professionals in the game. I think it would be safe to argue that England have a thin squad but the first choice eleven is a match for almost any team in the world on its day. The England team wasn't unsuccessful in the last world cup because of talent but because of attitude. The players have been pampered and protected by the FA to the point were every desire that they have is taken care of. They are treated like international stars even though they have not yet proven themselves at that level. They expect to win but they don't expect to have to earn it.
Joe. Posted 5 February 2008 Posted 5 February 2008 Good and logical appointment to me. Gerrard's an outstading leader on the pitch. Let's hope he can now take his Liverpool form and make it happen on the international scene. That goes for all our other England flops as well.
Uncle Albert Posted 5 February 2008 Posted 5 February 2008 Good and logical appointment to me.Gerrard's an outstading leader on the pitch. Let's hope he can now take his Liverpool form and make it happen on the international scene. That goes for all our other England flops as well. Well said! Gerrard is the best man for the job even if John Terry is fit to play. Gerrard does the job when skipper, Champions League and F.A Cup final's shown us that. The whole Lampard v Gerrard crap, Gerrard is obviously the better player. Gerrard isnt at risk of being dropped from the England team, does the job for Liverpool week in week out. Could anyone see Lampard doing what Gerrard did in the Champions League and F.A Cup finals?
Staf Posted 5 February 2008 Posted 5 February 2008 He deserves it is the most passionate player we have got he should be made permanent captain
Bryn Posted 5 February 2008 Posted 5 February 2008 I'm sure ermmm, that Steven errrmmmm, Gerrard will ermmm, make a good England Captain but ermmmmm, all ermm, press conferences will be ermm, about ermmm, four ermmm, times as long. That's one of the surprising things about Rio Ferdinand, he's actually relatively eloquent when it comes to speaking in press conferences (emphasis on the word relatively mind). Gerrard is a poor captain but having not seen much of the players I suppose he didn't have much choice other than to go with the vice captain. I'm pretty sure I've had this argument once though, and I'm not going into it again.
escape2victory Posted 5 February 2008 Posted 5 February 2008 Terry is an inspirational captain and a natural leader of men, the only problem being, I wouldnt pick him when everyone else is fit. Id have King and Woodgate ahead of him. Looks a bit shakey when he plays for England. Gerrard is not a natural leader and more of an individual. Dont get me wrong he is obviously a quality player but always seems to have tommorrows back pages in his mind when playing. Ferdinand is the one for me.
Hugo Sanchez Posted 5 February 2008 Posted 5 February 2008 Gerrard shouldn't be captain let alone Terry. Both aren't vocal enough and both don't stick there necks on the line for England. Neville is just the Man utd spokeman for the England team, so he can fook off. Like to a England Captain who isn't a playboy, who isn't flashy or a stuck up scouse cnut. A man who will take pride in wearing that armband and respect it. A Stuart pearce, Tony Adams, Terry butcher or even Paul Ince type player. Just someone who really does wanna be England captain and would die for the armband. I would give the armband to Jermaine Jenas, playing great for Spurs and when you see him on the pitch. Looks like he does give a fook and as a loud voice.
Samilktray Posted 5 February 2008 Posted 5 February 2008 Gerrard shouldn't be captain let alone Terry. Both aren't vocal enough and both don't stick there necks on the line for England. Neville is just the Man utd spokeman for the England team, so he can fook off.Like to a England Captain who isn't a playboy, who isn't flashy or a stuck up scouse cnut. A man who will take pride in wearing that armband and respect it. A Stuart pearce, Tony Adams, Terry butcher or even Paul Ince type player. Just someone who really does wanna be England captain and would die for the armband. I would give the armband to Jermaine Jenas, playing great for Spurs and when you see him on the pitch. Looks like he does give a fook and as a loud voice. Jermaine Jenas is deemed a first choice for England consistently.
Hugo Sanchez Posted 5 February 2008 Posted 5 February 2008 Jermaine Jenas is deemed a first choice for England consistently. No instead we got the dream pairing of Superstar Gerrard and The mighty Lampard. I don't think there's any better pairing in world football Need dropping both of them and stick Jenas and Carrick in there.
Fez of Mahrez Posted 5 February 2008 Posted 5 February 2008 I think everyone's missing the point here. It's largely inconsequential. Either the likes of Ferdinand, Terry, Gerrard, Lampard, Joe Cole and Rooney play like they do for their clubs and we finally get somewhere or they don't and we don't. It doesn't matter who of the first three of those names gets the captaincy as long as the majority of them start putting in winning performances game after game at international level - which is why we've brought in Capello. Get them playing as a team and as a unit and they'll all be like captains.
lildave3 Posted 5 February 2008 Posted 5 February 2008 Gerrard shouldn't be captain let alone Terry. Both aren't vocal enough and both don't stick there necks on the line for England. Neville is just the Man utd spokeman for the England team, so he can fook off.Like to a England Captain who isn't a playboy, who isn't flashy or a stuck up scouse cnut. A man who will take pride in wearing that armband and respect it. A Stuart pearce, Tony Adams, Terry butcher or even Paul Ince type player. Just someone who really does wanna be England captain and would die for the armband. I would give the armband to Jermaine Jenas, playing great for Spurs and when you see him on the pitch. Looks like he does give a fook and as a loud voice.
Hugo Sanchez Posted 5 February 2008 Posted 5 February 2008 Did i say something funny ? Coz i can't remember saying a damn thing funny. Lampard / Gerrard fan i bet.
WetFlannel Posted 5 February 2008 Posted 5 February 2008 Did i say something funny ? Coz i can't remember saying a damn thing funny. Lampard / Gerrard fan i bet. Idiot child.
Samilktray Posted 5 February 2008 Posted 5 February 2008 Did i say something funny ? Coz i can't remember saying a damn thing funny. Lampard / Gerrard fan i bet. You seem to talk very obnoxiously, why is this?
Geo V Posted 5 February 2008 Posted 5 February 2008 Gerrard is the most complete midfielder in World Football and a leader. He doesn't ponce about as much as the likes of Beckham, Rooney and some of the others so I am personally delighted that he will be the leader of Capello`s England.
Tommy G Posted 5 February 2008 Posted 5 February 2008 Gerrard shouldn't be captain let alone Terry. Both aren't vocal enough and both don't stick there necks on the line for England. Neville is just the Man utd spokeman for the England team, so he can fook off.Like to a England Captain who isn't a playboy, who isn't flashy or a stuck up scouse cnut. A man who will take pride in wearing that armband and respect it. A Stuart pearce, Tony Adams, Terry butcher or even Paul Ince type player. Just someone who really does wanna be England captain and would die for the armband. I would give the armband to Jermaine Jenas, playing great for Spurs and when you see him on the pitch. Looks like he does give a fook and as a loud voice. Jermain Jenas?! Are you a wind up..... lol Apparently they are making Cannabis a class B drug again, hopefuly this will make you refrain from using it so frequntly and post crap like that!
lildave3 Posted 5 February 2008 Posted 5 February 2008 Did i say something funny ? Coz i can't remember saying a damn thing funny. Lampard / Gerrard fan i bet. A fan of both as it happens, aswell as a Jenas one. But saying he could be captain is funny as ****!
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