Vacamion Posted 22 March 2013 Posted 22 March 2013 I'm not disagreeing with you but just offering something to take into consideration. When you run outside you plant your foot down and use that leg to push you forwards into the next step. On a treaddy, you plant your foot and the belt pulls your foot backwards and you catch yourself with the next leg. So in addition to the "give" in a treadmill which gives you less of an impact through your joints you are also doing only half of the work. Now this is not necessarily a bad thing if you are recovering from injury, in your case it's your achilles. But please bear in mind that treadmill running is very different to running outside so when you do transfer back to the great outdoors then you should expect to see a slight "decline" in performance. Again. It doesn't mean that you've gone backwards, you've simply started on the next level of your leg strength/endurance. Hope that makes sense. Oh absolutely. But training 6 days a week and losing weight and gaining condition (also doing some weights) is better for me than training twice or 3 times a week and being in pain after. I think the key issue is what you say about the opportinity to gain strength and endurance. It aint road running. The numbers don't compare to real road running, but it is defo better than an injury-related hiatus from running.
FoxesAreBlue Posted 22 March 2013 Posted 22 March 2013 Oh absolutely. But training 6 days a week and losing weight and gaining condition (also doing some weights) is better for me than training twice or 3 times a week and being in pain after. I think the key issue is what you say about the opportinity to gain strength and endurance. It aint road running. The numbers don't compare to real road running, but it is defo better than an injury-related hiatus from running. Precisely, and this will come across as argumentative/defensive but I don't mean it to at all... I just wanted to make sure that you had awareness of what you were doing and what you might face as you change to road/trail if you were a client of mine it is likely that I would recommend a similar plan of action. In other words, good luck!! In other sporting news, my running partner has just dropped out of Sunday's Loughborough 1/2 marathon thus leaving me on my jack jones again, I swear he's allergic to cold weather! EDIT: In my opinion, at this stage 6 days a week is probably a bit much (obviously this is without looking at you), I think 5 would be better complemented with LOTS of RICE to help you recover quicker. Not gospel though, just an opinion, runners and all sports people can be stubbornly too active sometimes, something I'm guilty of myself!
FoxesAreBlue Posted 23 March 2013 Posted 23 March 2013 The organisers of the Loughborough Half Marathon are going to assess the course tonight at 5pm and update the website between 5 and 6pm. That said, my mate lives in L'bro and she says its horrendous so it's likely to be called off.
FoxesAreBlue Posted 23 March 2013 Posted 23 March 2013 The postponement of tomorrow's Loughborough 1/2 marathon and the empty weekend that this provides got me thinking today about my running and the events that I have "competed" in over the last few years, in particular the Great North Run. I know that a LOT of people do not like exercise and on top of that many people, even in my industry (the fitness industry) think that running a half marathon is the mark of a lunatic. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't, but my opinion, borne out of experience is that everybody should do the Great North Run at least once. So far I have ran it twice and have a guaranteed spot for this year and next and without doubt it is now the one day of the year that I look forward to the most. As I run more and more I do feel some sort of emotional connection to the North East that I have never had before, so much so that it takes all of my "man points" not to get a little teary when they play Abide With Me at the start or completely awestruck by the Red Arrow fly overs/display at the start and finish too. In today's world we a constantly bombarded with bad news, wars, disagreements and lies. And not only that, just look at some of the debates on here about Animal Rights, Immigration, Politics etc... In no way am I saying this is wrong, thats life is like and what a forum is for. But the GNR really does provide an opportunity to forget all of the seriousness of the world and be part of a huge chain of humanity running for thousands of different reasons, all with the same goal of achieving something that to many people appears impossible. Not only that, it's a fvcking great day out, the route is lined with Geordies who come out in their droves from central Newcastle through Gateshead and all the way to South Shields. Many of whom hand out sweets, drinks, oranges and even beer to the runners but not without a high five in return! A local DJ gets his kit out in his front garden and blasts his music to help you on your way. On warm days, a few of the get the garden hose out to cool the runners down. If you are wearing a running shirt with your name on it then you can guarantee yourself some personal support too. The last mile (known as "the longest mile!") is along the sea front and is lined with people six deep. They are literally inches away from you and the noise is simply incredible as they will you on towards the finish. Also, this is where the BBC cameras are so if you have the energy to try and get on TV then this is where to do it. Speaking of the finish there are a couple of pubs within staggering distance too so you can get yourself a few isotonic recovery beers. Don't get me wrong, the event is not without its faults, people often get annoyed with runners putting down unrealistic predicted finish times so that they get placed close to the front. Only to get stuck behind them walking less than two miles in. Some say that the ballot is not big enough and too many places are given over to the charities. Whilst I would never say that these claims are not without merit, I do think that it would be a little much to allow them to diminish the experience of the day. It's hard not to be moved by some of the stories on display, many people run in memory of loved ones or to raise money for a terminally ill friend/relative. In my first run I raised money for a small children's hospital in Leeds. Why? The honest answer is I though that a small, little known charity would give me a better chance of gaining a place. On the run itself - mid run, a bloke came up beside me saying that he was proud to see me supporting the hospital as it had saved his son's life 6 months before. I explained my (admittedly poor) reason and he said that it didn't matter, hugged me, called me a hero, overtook me and I never saw him again. It's moments like that which make the GNR so special, if you are chasing a PB or are a serious runner then this is probably not the race for you. If however you don't mind being overtaken by a 6 foot Powerade bottle, a pair of oversized testicles or the Jamaican bobsled team (complete with sled) and if you're not to fussed weather you come 1st or 49,991st then I can highly recommend taking one weekend away from the usual routine, get yourself up North for one of the biggest annual parties that this country ever sees. I really believe that it should be on everybody's bucket list. The pain will subside. The pride will last a lifetime.
Vlad the Fox Posted 23 March 2013 Posted 23 March 2013 Good post Andy. I've never ran the GNR but have participated in the London marathon 4 times which is very similar to how you describe. It really is a moving experience as you make your way from the hotel to gather with the ever increasing numbers who pour out of the trains at Greenwich in their thousands in a gentle hush of nervous anticipation. But there is a real positive vibe amongst so many people who were driven to run as a result of loss, sorrow and despair, (I ran for my mum who passed away in Loros) a light out of the darkness so to speak. I can remember sitting on a bench in the park and seeing all these thousands of smiling faces and finding it quite moving thinking about what had driven so many people. The run itself is something I described as my F.A Cup final. Nowhere will I ever have so many people shouting my name in encouragement some getting quite passionate in pushing me on. There is the priest spraying holy water, blessing the runners as they pass his church, groups of friends having party's on the balconys of their apartments, adults and kids high fiveing giving out sweets and energy gels. The amusing booing of other runners as the three different starts meet up after about three miles, brief friendships on the way, the pain and desperation felt around the last few miles and the deafening noise. Getting spotted waving at the t.v. cameras. Running through and over tower bridge. The bands, dancers, impromptue singing from groups of girls all driving me on. Then as I run down Enbankment focus fixed on Big Ben there's the overwhelming feeling that ive done it, and the crowd let you know it as you head for Buckingham Palace that won't get any closer before you turn the corner and try an uncoordinated sprint to the finish awash with relief and emotion, and promises of 'never again,' I felt as if I had been on such a journey. Then it's through horse guards into the pub and as much Stella as I can physically take, which isn't usually much.
FoxesAreBlue Posted 23 March 2013 Posted 23 March 2013 Good post Andy. I've never ran the GNR but have participated in the London marathon 4 times which is very similar to how you describe. It really is a moving experience as you make your way from the hotel to gather with the ever increasing numbers who pour out of the trains at Greenwich in their thousands in a gentle hush of nervous anticipation. But there is a real positive vibe amongst so many people who were driven to run as a result of loss, sorrow and despair, (I ran for my mum who passed away in Loros) a light out of the darkness so to speak. I can remember sitting on a bench in the park and seeing all these thousands of smiling faces and finding it quite moving thinking about what had driven so many people. The run itself is something I described as my F.A Cup final. Nowhere will I ever have so many people shouting my name in encouragement some getting quite passionate in pushing me on. There is the priest spraying holy water, blessing the runners as they pass his church, groups of friends having party's on the balconys of their apartments, adults and kids high fiveing giving out sweets and energy gels. The amusing booing of other runners as the three different starts meet up after about three miles, brief friendships on the way, the pain and desperation felt around the last few miles and the deafening noise. Getting spotted waving at the t.v. cameras. Running through and over tower bridge. The bands, dancers, impromptue singing from groups of girls all driving me on. Then as I run down Enbankment focus fixed on Big Ben there's the overwhelming feeling that ive done it, and the crowd let you know it as you head for Buckingham Palace that won't get any closer before you turn the corner and try an uncoordinated sprint to the finish awash with relief and emotion, and promises of 'never again,' I felt as if I had been on such a journey. Then it's through horse guards into the pub and as much Stella as I can physically take, which isn't usually much. Yes an excellent one, for me a great moment in London last year was a group of 16 year old kids squirting discarded water bottles at the runners. My running partner was a victim but still had is water so got the kid back square in his chest! It was probably through fatigue but I found the whole episode hilarious, it was more the look of shock on the lads face! The booing as the different side meet is always a good one too! I like your description of it being your FA cup final and it's accurate, as a mere mortal and not a footballer it's quite nice to hear a constant stream of "Cam on Ayyndee!" and running through a jam packed Canary Wharf is a memory that I shall take to the grave. You can hear the crowed before you even turn into it. It's something quite special. EDIT: As you cross the Finish line in London it takes an automatic photo of you. Well mine is okay, but then the guy who finished about 2 seconds behind me had a picture taken as well so I got 2 photos, in 'his' you can see me pulling up in pain and just uttering the first "F" of "Fukkinell!"
Vlad the Fox Posted 23 March 2013 Posted 23 March 2013 The noise at Canary Wharf woke me up one year. I was properly out of it, struggling and withdrawn deep into myself when all this noise dawned on me and snapped me out of it.
FoxesAreBlue Posted 24 March 2013 Posted 24 March 2013 Just ordered this https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=83280 off of ebay. Looking forward to testing it out, I've only read good reviews and it will be good to get a bit more structure to the training runs too. The pissing snow this year is doing its best to scupper my Edinburgh marathon training so this is a bit of compensation.
Alexikokopops Posted 25 March 2013 Posted 25 March 2013 So far I have ran it twice and have a guaranteed spot for this year and next and without doubt it is now the one day of the year that I look forward to the most. As I run more and more I do feel some sort of emotional connection to the North East that I have never had before, so much so that it takes all of my "man points" not to get a little teary when they play Abide With Me at the start or completely awestruck by the Red Arrow fly overs/display at the start and finish too. I grew up in Lincolnshire so saw the Red Arrows quite a lot practicing when I was growing up - it's slightly ruined it for me! I'm working on my contacts in the charity world (i.e. my housemate) to hook me up with a place in the GNR - my friend (who has never run more than a 5k) got a place in the ballot. He's from Gateshead so whatever happens I'm heading up with him and staying at his folks for a bit of moral support. Just ordered this https://buy.garmin.c...op.do?pID=83280 off of ebay. Looking forward to testing it out, I've only read good reviews and it will be good to get a bit more structure to the training runs too. The pissing snow this year is doing its best to scupper my Edinburgh marathon training so this is a bit of compensation. I have the 305 and it's magnificent. I bought it last year (relatively cheap because they were bring out the 210/310 etc) and it feeds my inner geek. i forgot it when I did the Silverstone half though! Irritating. And, as an aside, me and my housemate reached our £3k target for the London Marathon. We've actually got another £650 to add on from a charity night which she organised on Saturday. Hoping to get to £4k now.
FoxesAreBlue Posted 25 March 2013 Posted 25 March 2013 I want my mates to do it (non runners), I know that they'd love it in the even but the training puts them off. Two of them came to watch me in the Great Manchster Run last year and one of them did express an interest but it was too late to enter GNR and this year he missed the ballot.
FoxesAreBlue Posted 25 March 2013 Posted 25 March 2013 For anybody interested, Vibram FiveFingers are on sale at the minute http://www.sportpursuit.com/sales/vibram-fivefingers-mar
SystonFox Posted 25 March 2013 Posted 25 March 2013 I've had a chest infection for nearly a week. Want to go running but really shouldn't at the minute. Attempting to cycle to work tomorrow so that shall be a test on how far I could run at this time
danny. Posted 26 March 2013 Posted 26 March 2013 For anybody interested, Vibram FiveFingers are on sale at the minute http://www.sportpurs...fivefingers-mar wow they are cheap! is that a genuine site? edit: ah just seen they hardly have anything in stock now
Ozwin Posted 26 March 2013 Posted 26 March 2013 Are the ones on eBay for like £30 fakes then or something?
Ozwin Posted 26 March 2013 Posted 26 March 2013 They've made it more and more difficult to see where your items are coming from on eBay now. Proper dodgy. You reccomend them though yeah? Had my eye on them for a while.
danny. Posted 27 March 2013 Posted 27 March 2013 Yea I love them, but just bear in mind they aren't shoes as such, more like heavy duty socks - and if you want them for running you need to ease very slowly into them
FoxesAreBlue Posted 27 March 2013 Posted 27 March 2013 wow they are cheap! is that a genuine site? edit: ah just seen they hardly have anything in stock now Yeah, they sell a lot of outdoors type of gear and cycling stuff in flash sales, usually it's old models etc but can still pick up a bargain.
FoxesAreBlue Posted 4 April 2013 Posted 4 April 2013 I keep telling myself that I won't run anymore marathons (I want a bit of meat on my bones). But very happy that I've just registered for the Athens marathon in November!!
FoxesAreBlue Posted 6 April 2013 Posted 6 April 2013 Was going to post this in the floats my boat thread but its a bit niche... Planning tomorrows 15 miler floats my boat, especially as I can actually memorise the route for once without faffing about with a map. Also knowing that the feeling of finishing the run will also float my boat, floats my boat. As will poring all of the Formula 1 style data captured by my fancy-pants new gps watch and heart rate monitor (the black box as I've christened it). Last time I used it you could actually see where I stopped to tie my shoelaces, in both my pace, and on the map it plots too! God I'm such a geek.
Vennegoor10 Posted 7 April 2013 Posted 7 April 2013 Don't know if it's of any use/interest to anyone but I'm a qualified strength and conditioning coach, currently working in elite sport (Championship football) and can offer training plans/nutrition advice/a running partner? For free mind 'cause we're all blues. Let me know
FoxesAreBlue Posted 7 April 2013 Posted 7 April 2013 Don't know if it's of any use/interest to anyone but I'm a qualified strength and conditioning coach, currently working in elite sport (Championship football) and can offer training plans/nutrition advice/a running partner? For free mind 'cause we're all blues. Let me know Depends, if its Derby or Forest then mine and yours definition of "elite sport" vastly differ . That said, I'm about to PM you.
Magictv Posted 7 April 2013 Posted 7 April 2013 Just got back from the wolf run in leamington spa, 10k off road assault course style thing. Very difficult, really not much of,a runner but very good fun too
FoxesAreBlue Posted 7 April 2013 Posted 7 April 2013 Or of my mates did Ithat last year and loved it, I've done the men's health version too - they're a good laugh to be fair.
FoxesAreBlue Posted 7 April 2013 Posted 7 April 2013 Did my 15 miles today, tried to keep all miles under 9mins but the last three were over - however 12-13 included the mile long climb up into Desford (you don't notice it I a car!) 13-14 included the steep-ass Desford Dip between Desford and Newbold Verdon and I think a combination of those killed me off in mile 14-15.
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