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Lots of theories flying around, the main one being a play on the time delay between analogue and digital tv.

If that is all it is, I'll be pretty pissed off. Hoping for something much cleverer than that!

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Is 14 million around about the right amount of number combinations or is that just a wild guess, that's alot of filming and people to keep quiet if so.

Although he did say he's been working on them for a year. :dunno:

Its the chance of getting all six numbers right if you buy a ticket. 13,983,016/1 I think.

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If that is all it is, I'll be pretty pissed off. Hoping for something much cleverer than that!

There's 3 ways he can go about it.

1) Giving all 6 numbers before the draw has started.

2) A ball by ball predicition (where the time delay could come into play)

3) Locks his predictions away and reveals them after the draw (in which case there could be some tampering with his predictions to correct them).

Either way he has a nation gripped.

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There's 3 ways he can go about it.

1) Giving all 6 numbers before the draw has started.

2) A ball by ball predicition (where the time delay could come into play)

3) Locks his predictions away and reveals them after the draw (in which case there could be some tampering with his predictions to correct them).

Either way he has a nation gripped.

I'm sure it will be none of those as it's Darren Brown. I'm sure he will get it right otherwise he would be risking his career!

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Correct, there are 14 million and something possible combinations to win the Lotto.
Its the chance of getting all six numbers right if you buy a ticket. 13,983,016/1 I think.

It's 1 in 13,983,816.

Calculated as follows:

(6/49) * (5/48) * (4/47) * (3/46) * (2/45) * (1/44) = 0.0000000715112

Divide that by 1 = 13,983,816

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It's 1 in 13,983,816.

Calculated as follows:

(6/49) * (5/48) * (4/47) * (3/46) * (2/45) * (1/44) = 0.0000000715112

Divide that by 1 = 13,983,816

Meh, I was close enough :P

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Slight contradiction there

What I was trying to say that predicting the lottery numbers is near on impossible. But he's obviously going to get at least some of the number's right, I just don't know how. So basically what I'm trying to say is he's not going to do it simply by mere predictions. Hope that clears up the perceived contraction!

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Or saved some money and just filmed every combination over the last 6 months or so. And I wouldn't put it past him - look at that time he flipped 10 heads in a row on the coin when really they just kept filming non-stop for about 10 hours until it did happen and then only showed you that bit of footage.

But it wasn't as if that bit was a con, he came clean admitted it there and it was just basic stuff but I bet at the time many people hadn't thought about it. To some extent I use that system/theory/tactic in roulette and it has failed on the odd occasion but I have been up more than down using it - I wait for 3 or 4 blacks or reds to come out on the table, chances are luck will change and it will go to the opposite on the next spin, its 50/50 so of course 10 blacks or 10 reds could come out in a row but highly unlikely so I play roulette get slightly up in winnings then revert to going on black or red, as I said it's risky, you can lose, and I have lost using it but I can tell you i've been up and up well, more than i've been down.

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i enjoyed the theory behind the horse racing programme he did, he made me believe he had a "formula" where really it was just a simple pyramid scheme on a large scale.

scott mills on radio 1 was saying he could have just recorded all 14 million winning combinations to do it, easy stuff!

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so, in summery then, should i jot down the numbers and pop them on for the lottery? i could be on for £2.43p if all the numbers come up.

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I'm sure it will be none of those as it's Darren Brown. I'm sure he will get it right otherwise he would be risking his career!

Shush everyone - Nostradamus is speaking...

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He's already played russian roulette with blank bullets when he said they were real and that didn't ruin his career.

The Wembley crowd will see tonights action a split second before we see it on TV, maybe Derren will use that miniscule time frame somehow, only with the lottery to get all the numbers.

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Lots of theories flying around, the main one being a play on the time delay between analogue and digital tv.

Yes thats what i thought without reading this thread or the rumours.

Thats the only logical way i can think of.

Small time difference, numbers said to him through earpiece.

But if that is the case, i can see him getting 4 numbers and the bonus ball, and purposely missing 1 number so it looks like it's weird.

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FYF - 11, 18, 27, 33, 42, 49 - 24.

LD3 - 8, 24, 16, 32, 27, 12 - 30

Dogadug - 5, 11, 19, 24, 30, 36 and 43

Ashley - 1, 19, 34, 26, 7, 41 - 16

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I really can't see it being as simple as that, I'll be gutted if it is.

Yeah that'd be a bit shit.

I could do that at home, have one ear on the TV in the other room that's on terrestrial and tell the people watching Sky. :P

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FYF - 11, 18, 27, 33, 42, 49 - 24.

LD3 - 8, 24, 16, 32, 27, 12 - 30

Dogadug - 5, 11, 19, 24, 30, 36 and 43

Ashley - 1, 19, 34, 26, 7, 41 - 16

Spiderpig - 2, 6, 19, 21, 40, 44. (fook the bonus ball, those babies come in and i'm laughing :cool: )

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