Plod brutality

[Bellend Sebastian]

I'm not saying that it's right that coppers sometimes beat the crap out of people (although I'm sure that I wouldn't shed a tear over some of those on the wrong end of it), but I just cannot get that excited about it.

Compared to the violence dished out by non-coppers, it barely registers with me. It's like living in a house made of turds and complaining when a visitor farts

[lou]

My stance is pretty much that... I know it goes on as Ive seen it on more than one occasion. It will continue to go on, theres sod all I can do about it and theres far worse things going on in the world to stress about to be honest. Im not saying its right, though Im pretty sure I wouldnt care if it was done to someone who had harmed one of my family etc.

If you go about your business and dont break the law/cause trouble its highly unlikely to happen to you. My Son has been stopped and searched a couple of times but he was treated with respect and politely because thats how he acted with the Police. Cant say I was particularly happy about him being searched but in these times of knife crimes etc I can see why they do it. If you dont have anything to hide then theres nothing to worry about is there?

[Daggers]

I'm not saying that it's right that coppers sometimes beat the crap out of people (although I'm sure that I wouldn't shed a tear over some of those on the wrong end of it), but I just cannot get that excited about it.

Compared to the violence dished out by non-coppers, it barely registers with me. It's like living in a house made of turds and complaining when a visitor farts

Loving your work.

[Raj]

I'm not saying that it's right that coppers sometimes beat the crap out of people (although I'm sure that I wouldn't shed a tear over some of those on the wrong end of it), but I just cannot get that excited about it.

Compared to the violence dished out by non-coppers, it barely registers with me. It's like living in a house made of turds and complaining when a visitor farts

Especially when the Cops are trying to arrest someone who's just GBH'd someone and is now resisting arrest.

Country is too soft.

It needs coppers to batter a few fcukers now and again!!!

[Guest]

I'm not saying that it's right that coppers sometimes beat the crap out of people (although I'm sure that I wouldn't shed a tear over some of those on the wrong end of it), but I just cannot get that excited about it.

Compared to the violence dished out by non-coppers, it barely registers with me. It's like living in a house made of turds and complaining when a visitor farts

One of the best analogies I've read in ages

[Bellend Sebastian]

Loving your work.

One of the best analogies I've read in ages

Thank you for your support. I would come up with more, but they tend to be very similar in that they invariably involve bodily functions

[Shrenchel]

I'm not saying that it's right that coppers sometimes beat the crap out of people (although I'm sure that I wouldn't shed a tear over some of those on the wrong end of it), but I just cannot get that excited about it.

Compared to the violence dished out by non-coppers, it barely registers with me. It's like living in a house made of turds and complaining when a visitor farts

Youre clearly not gunna bother because it's bloody long at over two hours but have a butchers at this documentary and then tell me you still feel the same http://www.injusticefilm.tv/

It follows the story of a few of the 1000 people that have died in police custody since 1969. These are healthy young men, normally black men, that have walked into a police station and suffered violence so brutal that they never came out. Not one copper has ever been convicted relating to these deaths.

Police violence goes a little deeper than twisting some pissheads arm behind his back.

The police have repeatedly tried to stop people seeing this documentary. In some places they outright banned it. The venue of the screening I went to received a phone call a day before from the police telling them that it was not in their interests to show the film. It's on their website now, but it pretty fooking abysmal quality.

[Bellend Sebastian]

I'm not for a moment suggesting that it's an issue that shouldn't be addressed or that it isn't important. It's just that when compared to the levels of violence dished out by members of THE GREAT BRITISH PUBLIC, it's a relative drop in the ocean.

In my very sheltered life I've never so much as had a stern look from a copper, but I've lost count of the times I've felt intimidated or threatened by ordinary people (although I'm mercifully yet to be a victim of physical violence, perhaps because of my imposing height)

[Steven]

I'm not for a moment suggesting that it's an issue that shouldn't be addressed or that it isn't important. It's just that when compared to the levels of violence dished out by members of THE GREAT BRITISH PUBLIC, it's a relative drop in the ocean.

In all fairness have over 1000 policemen and women died at the hands of the British public since 1969? <_<

[lou]

Its like everything else......... theres also a bloody large amount of coppers who are decent and do a tremendous job under very difficult circumstances. I dont like some of the stuff that apparently goes on - especially towards black people, but we all still need the Police and would soon get on the phone to them if something happened to one of our families. Its not a job Id like to do these days.

I dont think anyone would advocate excessive violence being used in all seriousness.

[Shrenchel]

Its like everything else......... theres also a bloody large amount of coppers who are decent and do a tremendous job under very difficult circumstances. I dont like some of the stuff that apparently goes on - especially towards black people, but we all still need the Police and would soon get on the phone to them if something happened to one of our families. Its not a job Id like to do these days.

I dont think anyone would advocate excessive violence being used in all seriousness.

Of course and although a thousand deaths between 1969 and 1999 sounds like a lot, the amount of coppers involved in such terrible actions is a tiny propotion of the police officers that served during that 30 year period. What's more worrying for me personally though is that not one was convicted in that period, showing that the British police as an organisation have more interest in protecting their own than real justice. This sometimes had disastrous consequences, such as at Stoke Newington police station where a number of people were killed in a relatively small period time period, often with the same officers on duty than the last time there was a death.

[lou]

Of course and although a thousand deaths between 1969 and 1999 sounds like a lot, the amount of coppers involved in such terrible actions is a tiny propotion of the police officers that served during that 30 year period. What's more worrying for me personally though is that not one was convicted in that period, showing that the British police as an organisation have more interest in protecting their own than real justice. This sometimes had disastrous consequences, such as at Stoke Newington police station where a number of people were killed in a relatively small period time period, often with the same officers on duty than the last time there was a death.

That is a very good point and indeed worrying.

[Koke]

The only time I've had encounters with the plod was when they strip searched me & my suitcase under the Terrorism Act in Paddington and Hammersmith after I arrived back home from holiday - two years on the trot.

[Tabou]

The only time I've had encounters with the plod was when they strip searched me & my suitcase under the Terrorism Act in Paddington and Hammersmith after I arrived back home from holiday - two years on the trot.

Is this a euphemism?

[Bryn]

It's not surprisingly that the police work hard to protect their own, the people of this country latch onto every media inflamed crisis and vilify those responsible. The police would be severely undermined if they went after every single copper that was in some way bent, brutality minded ones included. That's not to say I don't think they should make the effort in this case, but I'd consider the lack of convictions a sad symptom of the culture of this country.

[Zingari]

Officer faces G20 assault charge

A police officer is to be charged with assaulting a protester at the G20 demonstrations in London, the Crown Prosecution Service has said.

Demonstrators posted Youtube footage of a police officer appearing to strike Brighton woman Nicola Fisher.

Ms Fisher, 35, was one of two women to complain about the conduct in April of Sgt Delroy (Tony) Smellie

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8279001.stm

Sgt Smellie

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

Youre clearly not gunna bother because it's bloody long at over two hours but have a butchers at this documentary and then tell me you still feel the same http://www.injusticefilm.tv/

It follows the story of a few of the 1000 people that have died in police custody since 1969. These are healthy young men, normally black men, that have walked into a police station and suffered violence so brutal that they never came out. Not one copper has ever been convicted relating to these deaths.

Police violence goes a little deeper than twisting some pissheads arm behind his back.

The police have repeatedly tried to stop people seeing this documentary. In some places they outright banned it. The venue of the screening I went to received a phone call a day before from the police telling them that it was not in their interests to show the film. It's on their website now, but it pretty fooking abysmal quality.

Anti Police and racist rubbish, that tells you one half of the story. Anyone who can swallow that garbage must be mentally deficient.

[Dr The Singh]

Anti Police and racist rubbish, that tells you one half of the story. Anyone who can swallow that garbage must be mentally deficient.

You sound like KPS Gill, to deny that there has been incidents and issues with those that are supposed to be protecting us, no matter what proportion is prosposterious, a death is a death, and all must be done to stop such incidents happening, sweeping them under the carpet is not the right thing to do!!

I agree, it's only part of the story, but out of the 100o people that died in police custody, non of the incidents were ever any of the police officers fault, I find that hard to believe!!

Compared to the punjab police between 1984 - 1990 where no police officer was ever charged for over 500,000 encounters, deaths and disapearances, makes the british police seem quite good!!!

[Finnegan]

Anti Police and racist rubbish, that tells you one half of the story. Anyone who can swallow that garbage must be mentally deficient.

A wonderful rebuttle there.

[Shrenchel]

Anti Police and racist rubbish, that tells you one half of the story. Anyone who can swallow that garbage must be mentally deficient.

Did you even watch it you goon?!

Of course it's one side of the coin, but seeing as the police constantly get to put across their version of events I think it's healthy that sometime the families of men that have died in police custody get to tell their story too. Obviously, the plod don't think so though or they wouldn't have spent so much time and energy trying to get it banned.

I don't know what you're trying to refute here?? Over a 1000 people died in policy custody during that time? The vast majority were healthy men that wouldn't have died had they not suffered some kind of abuse? A disproportionate amount of them were black? These are facts, not malicious hear say. I'm not saying every case was an avoidable piece of police brutality that resulted in the death but in some incidents it clearly was and however much this may be inevitability

in such an institution or compare to other countries, it's still not really accpetable to sweep it under the carpet.

Aren't you that plastic plod? Think that might be clouding your judgement a bit, try taking a step back. I've got a mate and a cousin who are real policemen in the met and they quite happily admit that although the situation is improving, there have been far too many bad apples in the force over the decades that have done some terrible things.

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

Did you even watch it you goon?!

Of course it's one side of the coin, but seeing as the police constantly get to put across their version of events I think it's healthy that sometime the families of men that have died in police custody get to tell their story too. Obviously, the plod don't think so though or they wouldn't have spent so much time and energy trying to get it banned.

I don't know what you're trying to refute here?? Over a 1000 people died in policy custody during that time? The vast majority were healthy men that wouldn't have died had they not suffered some kind of abuse? A disproportionate amount of them were black? These are facts, not malicious hear say. I'm not saying every case was an avoidable piece of police brutality that resulted in the death but in some incidents it clearly was and however much this may be inevitability

in such an institution or compare to other countries, it's still not really accpetable to sweep it under the carpet.

Aren't you that plastic plod? Think that might be clouding your judgement a bit, try taking a step back. I've got a mate and a cousin who are real policemen in the met and they quite happily admit that although the situation is improving, there have been far too many bad apples in the force over the decades that have done some terrible things.

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Better to be a "Plastic Plod" than have a plastic brain, and spout off about things you know Jack Shit about, you booby!

[Sir Fynwy]

Did you even watch it you goon?!

Of course it's one side of the coin, but seeing as the police constantly get to put across their version of events I think it's healthy that sometime the families of men that have died in police custody get to tell their story too. Obviously, the plod don't think so though or they wouldn't have spent so much time and energy trying to get it banned.

I don't know what you're trying to refute here?? Over a 1000 people died in policy custody during that time? The vast majority were healthy men that wouldn't have died had they not suffered some kind of abuse? A disproportionate amount of them were black? These are facts, not malicious hear say. I'm not saying every case was an avoidable piece of police brutality that resulted in the death but in some incidents it clearly was and however much this may be inevitability

in such an institution or compare to other countries, it's still not really accpetable to sweep it under the carpet.

Aren't you that plastic plod? Think that might be clouding your judgement a bit, try taking a step back. I've got a mate and a cousin who are real policemen in the met and they quite happily admit that although the situation is improving, there have been far too many bad apples in the force over the decades that have done some terrible things.

Better to be a "Plastic Plod" than have a plastic brain, and spout off about things you know Jack Shit about, you booby!

Didn't you read the bit where it states he knows real policemen?

[lou]

My Uncle was an Inspector in Leicestershire police (RIP) and he admitted there were a core few coppers who delighted in picking on Black and Asian people and did subject some to physical/verbal abuse. Its hardly a state secret. In an organisation as big as the Police Force youre bound to get some bad apples and bigots ffs

[Shrenchel]

Better to be a "Plastic Plod" than have a plastic brain, and spout off about things you know Jack Shit about, you booby!

I can't for the life of me imagine why they'd only take you as a corner boy and not an actual copper. Did you fail the bleep test? Can't have been that you're a moronic cock.

[Guest]

Did you even watch it you goon?!

Of course it's one side of the coin, but seeing as the police constantly get to put across their version of events I think it's healthy that sometime the families of men that have died in police custody get to tell their story too. Obviously, the plod don't think so though or they wouldn't have spent so much time and energy trying to get it banned.

I don't know what you're trying to refute here?? Over a 1000 people died in policy custody during that time? The vast majority were healthy men that wouldn't have died had they not suffered some kind of abuse? A disproportionate amount of them were black? These are facts, not malicious hear say. I'm not saying every case was an avoidable piece of police brutality that resulted in the death but in some incidents it clearly was and however much this may be inevitability

in such an institution or compare to other countries, it's still not really accpetable to sweep it under the carpet.

Aren't you that plastic plod? Think that might be clouding your judgement a bit, try taking a step back. I've got a mate and a cousin who are real policemen in the met and they quite happily admit that although the situation is improving, there have been far too many bad apples in the force over the decades that have done some terrible things.

Better to be a "Plastic Plod" than have a plastic brain, and spout off about things you know Jack Shit about, you booby!

Actually Schrenchel is correct. We covered a lot of this in criminology last year, and the year before in civil liberties.

You may have joined the police, in whatever capacity, which noble intentions, but there are more than a fair share of "bad apples" to make up for it.

I can't for the life of me imagine why they'd only take you as a corner boy and not an actual copper. Did you fail the bleep test? Can't have been that you're a moronic cock.

Harsh.