Plod brutality

[Shrenchel]

Sorry to be all boring and shit but thought some might be interested in this.

Police G20 manslaughter

Another IPCC whitewash on the way no doubt.

[Steven]

Sorry to be all boring and shit but thought some might be interested in this.

Police G20 manslaughter

Another IPCC whitewash on the way no doubt.

No doubt. As the de Menezes inquiry showed there is a reluctance to enforce the law when it comes to the Police. <_<

[purpleronnie]

Thats always been the case I think its better now than it was but its far from acceptable.

[Hitesh]

Thats terrible, regardless of what the guy may have said to provoke the reaction its not called for and the officer should be punished big time!

[BoneDog]

fooking scum. Fair enough if someone attacks them, they can use a bit of force. But some of the ****s should be locked up.

In the future it will get worse when they don't have to wear identification numbers and wear masks as is already the case on some demonstrations in the US.

[Ultra]

Thats terrible, regardless of what the guy may have said to provoke the reaction its not called for and the officer should be punished big time!

But expensive lawyers and a sympathetic jury will ensure he won't be..

[Thracian]

No doubt. As the de Menezes inquiry showed there is a reluctance to enforce the law when it comes to the Police. <_<

Absolutely, and the action is a disgrace.

I have long said that the Police are cancered with a smallish number of closet thugs and this was a videod example which appears to show an unprovoked and cowardly attack from behind on a defenceless and physically unthreatening member of the public.

I'm not sure where the "baton-wielding" bit comes in cos it appears to be a violent push to me but, whatever it was shames the service the aggressor is supposed to represent.

There is no question the policeman should be charged.

It wasn't the same degree of violence but Just like the recent supermarket assailant, this assault shows a man seemingly disregarding his responsibility for the welfare of another.

Had a member of the public assaulted a police officer in such a way there would have been an outcry and no sympathy or excuses at all.

Whatever happened to the proportionate response we are all supposed to adhere to? If police officers are allowed to get away with unprovoked aggression like this then we no longer have a police service but more a uniformed service with licence to bully.

Doubtless fellow police officers plus their leaders and friends will close ranks and effect yet another charade that pokes fun at the idea of justice.

But those same people should really be ashamed about this, about the effect it will have on the public's faith in the police service and perhaps even the risk it poses to the future safety of police officers.

Because I can see the time when just such an attack leads to a focused response by demonstrators and that really will open a can of worms. If the police cannot act with fairness and a sense of responsibility why the hell should they expect members of the public to?

[Guest]

I am doing a mini-project on abuse of police power and corruption. It's amazing the things that they think that they can get away with.

[Dr The Singh]

I am doing a mini-project on abuse of police power and corruption. It's amazing the things that they think that they can get away with.

We want justice!!!

[Guest]

We want justice!!!

I want another cup of tea.

[Dr The Singh]

I want another cup of tea.

Mines, white with 2 sugars, thanks Babes!!!

[hairy]

I want another cup of tea.

i've jut made one. Lovely...

[Guest]

I am doing a mini-project on abuse of police power and corruption. It's amazing the things that they think that they can get away with.

Sounds interesting. Are you allowed to enlighten us with some examples Lisa?

[welck12]

But expensive lawyers and a sympathetic jury will ensure he won't be..

If it gets anywhere near a court room i'll be amazed..

All that talk off tea has made me thirsty

*trundles off to put kettle on*

[Guest Bilo]

It seems ironic that only two weeks ago we were talking about the heavy-handedness of our own police after returning from the Peterborough game, so abuse of power and brutality from the police is clearly not confined to London or indeed anywhere there might actually be a hint of trouble. The police generally do a good job, but there are far too many 'bad apples' who behave like hooligans in fluorescent jackets and should be removed from the police force. There is video evidence of what this policeman did in London that shows his attack was unprovoked and was followed shortly after by the death of his victim (and victim is the right word). If I or anybody else attacked somebody who died minutes later of a heart attack, I'm pretty sure we'd be on a manslaughter charge within 24 hours. The Met should make an example of this thug, but bitter experience tells us that they won't and that these thugs in helmets will be allowed to continue in the police forces. This will happen again, make no mistake about it.

PS I'd be interested to see your investigation Lisa, I'm sure it would make fascinating but depressing reading.

[Jon the Hat]

What really upsets me is the idea that it is acceptable for our Police to hide their faces from the cameras. It almost assumes that they will be doing things which they are not to be held accountable for, and that is dangerous, as this gentlemen was unfortunate enough to discover. My thoughts go out to his wife and family who have had to watch this horrible film. IO really hope it brings them some justice in the end.

[Guest]

Sounds interesting. Are you allowed to enlighten us with some examples Lisa?

Obviously we have to tie our findings in with criminological theories, so police brutality ties in with social control theories, for example. I read a really interesting study conducted in the late 1980s in the US, where the researcher discovered that whilst rookies are given standard issue weapons, but this then singles them out as rookies, so they then go and buy "better" weapons from the illegal arms dealers they are supposed to be catching. On top of that, they are taught in official training how to restrain offenders, but would then be shown how not to do it. They are also taught by senior officers how to get away with seriously injuring people without looking like it is intentional.

Like I said, it was a US study.

[Daggers]

This isn't seeking to mitigate the actions if they are indeed directly linked to the death...but "brutality"? It was a push and that's hardly the equivalent of the Rodney King beatings.

[James.]

This isn't seeking to mitigate the actions if they are indeed directly linked to the death...but "brutality"? It was a push and that's hardly the equivalent of the Rodney King beatings.

There are witnesses claiming he was also hit multiple times with a baton.

[Dr The Singh]

There are witnesses claiming he was also hit multiple times with a baton.

Oh dear!!!!

[James.]

"A riot police officer had already grabbed him and was pushing him," she said.

"It wasn't just pushing him – he'd rushed him. He went to the floor and he did actually roll. That was quite noticeable.

"It was the force of the impact. He bounced on the floor. It was a very forceful knocking down from behind. The officer hit him twice with a baton when he was lying on the floor.

"So it wasn't just that the officer had pushed him – it became an assault.

"And then the officer picked him up from the back, continued to walk or charge with him, and threw him.

"He was running and stumbling. He didn't turn and confront the officer or anything like that."

[Benji]

If that was an ordinary member of the public the "take your victim as you find them" rule would come into play so that if he has a dodgy heart, tough sh1te for you for taking that risk. I wonder if the same will apply to the cop?

[breadandcheese]

Only just seen the video. Hopefully a criminal investigation will be opened. Looks appalling.

[Babylon]

There are witnesses claiming he was also hit multiple times with a baton.

Gary Lineker

"A riot police officer had already grabbed him and was pushing him," she said.

"It wasn't just pushing him – he'd rushed him. He went to the floor and he did actually roll. That was quite noticeable.

"It was the force of the impact. He bounced on the floor. It was a very forceful knocking down from behind. The officer hit him twice with a baton when he was lying on the floor.

"So it wasn't just that the officer had pushed him – it became an assault.

"And then the officer picked him up from the back, continued to walk or charge with him, and threw him.

"He was running and stumbling. He didn't turn and confront the officer or anything like that."

Well that witness was talking out of their arse then, because the video contradicts most of what they said.

Whilst there no real reason to push so hard, he didn't exactly seem to be trying to get out of their way. In fact he looked like he was going slow on purpose.

It's not an isolated incident this kind of thing, i've had it happen twice. Once when in town and another time at football. When dealing with the public in certain situations, the police believe they can use what force they like and don't care if someone is an innocent bystander.

[James.]

Well that witness was talking out of their arse then, because the video contradicts most of what they said.

Whilst there no real reason to push so hard, he didn't exactly seem to be trying to get out of their way. In fact he looked like he was going slow on purpose.

It's not an isolated incident this kind of thing, i've had it happen twice. Once when in town and another time at football. When dealing with the public in certain situations, the police believe they can use what force they like and don't care if someone is an innocent bystander.

The witness was referring to events before and after the video footage.