davieG Posted 26 July 2009 Posted 26 July 2009 Kevin Phillips would be a risk, but then all signings are. Our problem is ageing footballers don't have a good reputation with us, think Rab Douglas, Geoff Horsfield, Martin Keown and many more; sure there has been the odd decent one like Ferdinand but on the whole they've served us pretty badly and cost more than a penny or two and that makes many of us both nervous and sceptical about their motives. But then we've also signed plenty that were supposed to be in their prime and they contributed FA. Young or old the key to any successful signing, assuming they all have the necessary skill is their motivation, fitness and team ethic this is where we have to rely on the manager and his team. Our previous failed signings not only exposed their shortcomings in terms of being a good signing but also that of the manager. We really do have to trust Nigel Pearson until it's proved otherwise, he and his team seem to be able to get the best out of players young, prime or old. he's done it in 3rd tier let's see if he can do it in the 2nd. I much prefer a manager who takes his time in making his signings, it can be an indication that he's not just looking at their skill level but also their attitude.
Fox92 Posted 26 July 2009 Posted 26 July 2009 Kevin Phillips is a great footballer, a great man, a very big influence, a man that deserves to be in the game, a natural goalscorer and a player that will score goals for whichever team he plays for whether it be Birmingham, Sunderland or even Leicester! No doubt about it he will score goals, you only have to look at his record. We all know he will score goals at this level and it is what we most certainly need but the price is wrong. If Birmingham offered him to me on a free I would most certainley buy him because he will score the goals needed. However, at his tender age, the fee of 750k seems ridiculasly over priced, therefore, no thanks. If Birmingham want something between 0 - 100k then thats when I will consider the offer. Love to have him pottering around at the club though.
smudger63 Posted 26 July 2009 Posted 26 July 2009 Yeah, cos that's really gonna help us out isn't it? Depends who he`s selling us too!
Dan Posted 26 July 2009 Posted 26 July 2009 Lita and Phillips would be two exceptional additions to the side and very much fit in with Pearson's modus operandi so far: namely U21 (or former) players who are hungry, alongside proven entities who aren't going to disrupt the squad (Wellens, Nielsen, Powell as examples). I wouldn't be unhappy if we sold DJ Campbell to fund phillips and even if we sold mattock to fund further signings. Perhaps we could sell Mattock and have him loaned back for a year - as Sheff Utd have done with Walker. McGivern would be drafted in to battle Berner for left back. Agree with a lot of that post, apart from the bit I have highlighted, that would be a pointless move really, we don't need the money and you want him for the future and not right now IMO, so taking him back on loan while hes young just seems a bit stupid.
Salieri Posted 26 July 2009 Posted 26 July 2009 Someone said about Michael Bridges "doing a Cottee" for us, pffft. This guy however is a different proposition. Model professional with an outstanding goal record. He may be just turned 36 but he's a striker who has always relied on his positional sense, he's a real poacher who has never needed blistering pace or the like. So, I don't think he's past it just yet, if we could get a season out of him with 15 or so goals then that'd a great bit if business (but hopefully not for quite as high as £750k). Make it happen Nige.
lcfc84 Posted 26 July 2009 Posted 26 July 2009 I wouldn't mind having KP here, if NP thinks he is worth a gamble then i trust him. I dnt think we will pay £750,000 tho.
dandannieldanok Posted 26 July 2009 Posted 26 July 2009 £750,000 Would be one of the worst transfers in football over this summer if we paid that for him, never mind his massive wages.
Brainy Posted 26 July 2009 Posted 26 July 2009 He's scored goals for clubs expected to do well in the past two years. Might be slightly different here.
Vlad The Impaler Posted 26 July 2009 Posted 26 July 2009 What is it with people on here? Sorry but you all go on about wanting a proven championship goalscorer and as soon as we are linked you think we can do better. We aren't going to attract the likes of Cox, Evans or anyone of a real class really, Phillips would be a good signing and i'd have him for £750,000 anyday of the week. He's got a better goalscoring record than pretty much everyone in the divison. Okay so he may not be the long term option but we could get a couple of seasons out of him, giving time for youngsters such as Kee to come through. IF Phillips comes (Which I doubt) and IF Kermogant comes then we will be looking good up top. Though, admittedly i've never seen this French lad play but I trust NP's judgement. Howard/Kermo Fryatt/Phillips/N'Guessan? Looks darn good to me
Benji Posted 26 July 2009 Posted 26 July 2009 If Crouch is worth 10 million then £750,000 for Phillips is a bargain. The guy is one of very few players outside the premiership that you can guarantee will get goals, no risk involved. He's got such a great strikers brain he would read Howard's flick-ons like a book. He could be very successful here, even if just for 2 years. Once again a transfer talk thread is littered with disapproval yet I can't see many reasonable alternatives being offered.
Guest Posted 26 July 2009 Posted 26 July 2009 What is it with people on here? Sorry but you all go on about wanting a proven championship goalscorer and as soon as we are linked you think we can do better. We aren't going to attract the likes of Cox, Evans or anyone of a real class really, Phillips would be a good signing and i'd have him for £750,000 anyday of the week. He's got a better goalscoring record than pretty much everyone in the divison. Okay so he may not be the long term option but we could get a couple of seasons out of him, giving time for youngsters such as Kee to come through. IF Phillips comes (Which I doubt) and IF Kermogant comes then we will be looking good up top. Though, admittedly i've never seen this French lad play but I trust NP's judgement. Howard/Kermo Fryatt/Phillips/N'Guessan? Looks darn good to me
foxoffderby Posted 26 July 2009 Posted 26 July 2009 I wouldn't pay £750k for anyone of that age. TBH I dont think he will come, more than likely be be used as a squad player next season at brum because of his top flight experience. Remember Brum will more than likely be in a relegation dogfight. He will be valuable member of their squad. If I was Brum manager would I rather have £750k or somebody who can score goals in the top flight and keep us up? Then give him a free, the following season when you become established and become a more attractive proposition to other top class strikers. Brum owners are also looking to sell the clup ASAP. If they can keep the club in the prem for 1 season value goes up and they become a viable prospect to potential buyers. So why sell a goal scorer who can help achieve the goal of selling the club. Its a no brainer for me, hes not coming its poor journalism.
flanimal Posted 26 July 2009 Posted 26 July 2009 I highly doubt this. Kevin Phillips stated on Sky when Birmingham went up that he wanted to end his career in The Premier League, and that he thought he had a couple of seasons in him (which would take him to 38-years-old). Why would he leave The Premier League - where he will be involved - just to drop into a Championship battle again? He wouldn't, unless we could offer him very good wages - which we won't. Crap rumour, I call bullshit.
philayres200 Posted 26 July 2009 Posted 26 July 2009 £750,000 Would be one of the worst transfers in football over this summer if we paid that for him, never mind his massive wages. 750k is paper talk. It ain't long ago that lots of fans on here were decrying NP for not getting Cox for the 2.5M all the papers were quoting. WBA got Cox for 1.5M to a max on earn out of 1.9m. Any fee for Phillips would turn out to be less than 0.5m. He would fit into NPs style of player, more than Lita, who is far too risky as an arsehole and disruptive influence. Phillips is not only a goal scorer but also an exceptional footballer, which is the type NP likes. His contributions to the team he plays for have always been underestimated. He doesn't just score goals. Now, just to get things in perspective. NP will not be doing much until DJ is gone. Only then will he know how much he has available. If DJ stays, we may just get one striker in, like the French lad, ( low cost addition ). If DJ goes, we will get a couple, which would include a Phillips or Lita or someone similar. Let's get real, aye lads?
dandannieldanok Posted 26 July 2009 Posted 26 July 2009 750k is paper talk. It ain't long ago that lots of fans on here were decrying NP for not getting Cox for the 2.5M all the papers were quoting. WBA got Cox for 1.5M to a max on earn out of 1.9m. Any fee for Phillips would turn out to be less than 0.5m.He would fit into NPs style of player, more than Lita, who is far too risky as an arsehole and disruptive influence. Phillips is not only a goal scorer but also an exceptional footballer, which is the type NP likes. His contributions to the team he plays for have always been underestimated. He doesn't just score goals. Now, just to get things in perspective. NP will not be doing much until DJ is gone. Only then will he know how much he has available. If DJ stays, we may just get one striker in, like the French lad, ( low cost addition ). If DJ goes, we will get a couple, which would include a Phillips or Lita or someone similar. Let's get real, aye lads? Well I share a completely opposite view, I would never in a million years choose Phillips over Lita, infact I'd rather keep DJ than get Phillips. Our frontline is badly lacking pace and Phillips is not going to improve that, him and Howard lining up front would be cringeworthy imo.
Salieri Posted 26 July 2009 Posted 26 July 2009 Well I share a completely opposite view, I would never in a million years choose Phillips over Lita, infact I'd rather keep DJ than get Phillips. Our frontline is badly lacking pace and Phillips is not going to improve that, him and Howard lining up front would be cringeworthy imo. Cross comes into the box, Howard flicks on, Phillips (in the right place at the right time as usual) cooly slots into the back of the net. Who needs pace?
Tilley Posted 26 July 2009 Posted 26 July 2009 Fuk Dickov off (Somehow ) THIS £750,000 Would be one of the worst transfers in football over this summer if we paid that for him, never mind his massive wages. Have to agree.
Nick Posted 26 July 2009 Posted 26 July 2009 I know he's old for football years however if he gets 15 goals a season as a first half starter and then subbed I think 500K for his attitude, experience and worth ethic (it wouldn't surprise me if part of any deal involves paying for his coaching badges and a 1 season extra option as an assistant coach or something) would be well worth it. Just my opinion. N.
flanimal Posted 26 July 2009 Posted 26 July 2009 I'd welcome him here, but I just don't think he would come.
ousefox Posted 26 July 2009 Posted 26 July 2009 Definately would not spend more than 100k on him. I would much rather have lita and Jackson than him.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 26 July 2009 Posted 26 July 2009 What is it with people on here? Sorry but you all go on about wanting a proven championship goalscorer and as soon as we are linked you think we can do better. We aren't going to attract the likes of Cox, Evans or anyone of a real class really, Phillips would be a good signing and i'd have him for £750,000 anyday of the week. He's got a better goalscoring record than pretty much everyone in the divison. Okay so he may not be the long term option but we could get a couple of seasons out of him, giving time for youngsters such as Kee to come through. IF Phillips comes (Which I doubt) and IF Kermogant comes then we will be looking good up top. Though, admittedly i've never seen this French lad play but I trust NP's judgement. Howard/Kermo Fryatt/Phillips/N'Guessan? Looks darn good to me .... "We aren't going to attract the likes of Cox, Evans or anyone of real class really" .... That is so true. By reading many of the posts on here, it seems that people will be content just to see us as a non- Premiership outfit.
ousefox Posted 26 July 2009 Posted 26 July 2009 Simeon Jackson over Phillips?No thanks. If we were spending 750k I would much rather put that towards a youngster who is a good prospect for the future, rather than spending it on somebody who will last no more than 2 years coming of the bench and will have no sell on value.
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