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DJ Campbell @ Derby County

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davieG

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On Loan

Derby County boss Nigel Clough is ready to snap up Leicester City striker DJ Campbell - and give him a spin in his team.

Clough wants to land out-of-favout Campbell on loan before the window for short-term deals closes later this week.

Campbell is keen to get some first-team action and could move across the East Midlands to Pride Park where Clough has been struggling to keep his strikers fit so far this season.

The Foxes have already helped their neighbours by giving them veteran Scot Paul Dickov and boss Nigel Pearson seems set to agree to the Campbell switch.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Derby...icle229515.html

Head Honcho

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On Loan

Derby County boss Nigel Clough is ready to snap up Leicester City striker DJ Campbell - and give him a spin in his team.

Clough wants to land out-of-favout Campbell on loan before the window for short-term deals closes later this week.

Campbell is keen to get some first-team action and could move across the East Midlands to Pride Park where Clough has been struggling to keep his strikers fit so far this season.

The Foxes have already helped their neighbours by giving them veteran Scot Paul Dickov and boss Nigel Pearson seems set to agree to the Campbell switch.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Derby...icle229515.html

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MC Prussian

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The sweeter it would be if he helped them going down. Not even two former City players have managed to pull that ship around as of yet.

That's my dose of Schadenfreude for today.

(But in a way, I'd miss DJ if he started scoring like crazy for the Sheep - you know, it could happen nevertheless :ph34r:)

haraven

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We'll get stuck with his insane wages, and he'll be the Championship never off side top scorer... just our luck.

Corky

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The Foxes have already helped their neighbours by giving them veteran Scot Paul Dickov.

We'll leave that open to debate lol

Finnegan

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Would rather he stay personally, I reckon his pace and willingness to play as far up as possible (*cue boring offside jokes*), could have made a difference late on in games like Plymouth instead of resorting to Howard.

HE CAN'T FINISH.

leicesterfox86

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He is usually ok when he goes out on loan. So make a clause where he can't play against us lol.

He is yea, he will prob grab a couple of goals for them. They need them though I suppose in their relegation battle.

Finnegan

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Apart from that prolific run at Blackpool last season :whistle:

Aye maybe he needs a fresh start somewhere else, maybe he needs to be part of a different system, maybe he needs a different style of manager, who knows?

One thing we all know for sure though is that he'll never be a decent goal scorer here. Fact.

It's not the offsides that even bother me it's his utter lack of productivity. "Oh he scares defenders", does he fook. They can just lean on him and he's useless, he's got about as much strength as me or LD3 - only at least Little Dave's got a bit of ability.

I know the whole "Oh get off his back" crowd will be rolling their eyes and the few genuinely delluded people that actually think he's decent will be throwing a hissy fit but the bloke is utter pap and more than that he's an absolute cancer on our wage bill. Get rid ASAP.

Edmund

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Aye maybe he needs a fresh start somewhere else, maybe he needs to be part of a different system, maybe he needs a different style of manager, who knows?

I disagree. He has resolved his issues with the club and is now back in contention making the bench. He does need to ressurect his career but I can't see why not here considering he's back in the managers plans.

One thing we all know for sure though is that he'll never be a decent goal scorer here. Fact.

He hasn't been given a decent enough chance. And before people start saying in his first season he wasn't scoring, the whole team was underperforming and even our most prolifc scorer of recent times Fryatt couldn't hit the back of the net to save his life that season.

It's not the offsides that even bother me it's his utter lack of productivity. "Oh he scares defenders", does he fook. They can just lean on him and he's useless, he's got about as much strength as me or LD3 - only at least Little Dave's got a bit of ability.

He offers something to the team we haven't got. A pacey out and out striker. Nice to have as many options available. Ok his strength isin't his main point but he's not that sort of player who holds the ball up. Maybe not the most skillfull but he can stretch defences apart.

the few genuinely delluded people that actually think he's decent will be throwing a hissy fit but the bloke is utter pap and more than that he's an absolute cancer on our wage bill. Get rid ASAP.

I must be one of these deluded people :thumbup:

On the subject of his wage fair enough it seems that he is payed more than his ability has shown so far but that's not his fault. That was something done by previous regimes.

Finnegan

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I'm not going to sit here and claim to be some sort of genius scout or talent spotter, not at all, but it doesn't take a genius to work out DJ Campbell offers very, very little. I'm not going to keep thrashing about his goalscoring record because frankly it speaks for itself and it isn't too bright, here or at Brum. I'm willing to accept strikers need time to play and get into form when it comes to scoring goals, but there's more to a player beyond that.

He consistently gives the ball away, he might be an alright athlete but he isn't a competent footballer in terms of simple ball retention and he never really shows glimmers of ability that inspire. Every time he gets the ball, or goes running on to a ball, I just think "...oh."

Compared to someone like Gallagher who came INSTANTLY into the side and looked safe, looked secure, looked intelligent. Every time Gallagher gets the ball I feel like he's going to do something composed, reasonable and he's either going to find feet or have a go. He might not be blindingly fast but pace isn't all you need. I've harped on in the past about us needing more pace up front and I do love fast players. But you've got to have something a bit more than the ability to run fast (and occasionally dribble fast.)

Edmund

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I'm not going to sit here and claim to be some sort of genius scout or talent spotter, not at all, but it doesn't take a genius to work out DJ Campbell offers very, very little. I'm not going to keep thrashing about his goalscoring record because frankly it speaks for itself and it isn't too bright, here or at Brum. I'm willing to accept strikers need time to play and get into form when it comes to scoring goals, but there's more to a player beyond that.

He consistently gives the ball away, he might be an alright athlete but he isn't a competent footballer in terms of simple ball retention and he never really shows glimmers of ability that inspire. Every time he gets the ball, or goes running on to a ball, I just think "...oh."

Compared to someone like Gallagher who came INSTANTLY into the side and looked safe, looked secure, looked intelligent. Every time Gallagher gets the ball I feel like he's going to do something composed, reasonable and he's either going to find feet or have a go. He might not be blindingly fast but pace isn't all you need. I've harped on in the past about us needing more pace up front and I do love fast players. But you've got to have something a bit more than the ability to run fast (and occasionally dribble fast.)

I still disagree with you and still think he hasn't something to offer. He is obviously a confidence player and just looking at his short spell at Blackpool doesn't take some sort of genius to work out that he is a goalscorer.

Like I said he hasn't been given a proper chance at Leicester. In his first season the whole team was playing shite. No confidence, no leadership, no team spirit. In league 1 he was frozen out for whatever reason and this season he hasn't been given a full 90 minutes to do his thing. The only football he has played apart from the ten minute cameos off the bench has been at reserve level where he has flurried (yes I know it's the reserves but still shows that he scores).

Yet when he moved to Blackpool and was given the chance he did his thing and proved he can score goals for fun. So if he ressurects himself here whose to say he cant recapture that form for us.

Comparing him to Gallagher isn't really a like for like but if you want to go down that road and bring up goal scoring records Gallaghers isin't very bright either. In fact it's comparable to DJ in the championship but DJ edges him at his spell at Blackpool with nearly a goal in every two games. Still though I don't think they are a comparable and Gallagher has played a lot more games at this level. I'm a big fan of Gallagher but personally think you can't really compare the two.

Finnegan

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If they're competing to be played in the same positions (wing and up top, though I appreciate that's not the only place Gallagher will play) then I don't see harm in comparing them, though you can just as easily compare DJ to Fryatt or Waghorn if you'd rather. Both of whom look more solid, look more reliable with the ball at feet and while Fryatt might not be the fastest player on Earth he's quick enough to get in behind defenders, as is Waghorn.

Fact of the matter is that Campbell's played for a number of managers at this club and at Birmingham, men who understand football and footballers, men who've seen him play every day on the training ground and on the pitch and none of them have thought he's good enough. When they've given him a go he's knocked up close to a hundred games between the two clubs and managed about fifteen goals. Bag of wank. And, as I said, besides goal scoring he offers absolutely shit all to a team. It'd be like if Michael Owen couldn't finish.

The only, only defense for DJ Campbell is "he did well at Blackpool." I'm sorry but scoring nine goals in twenty odd games is alright, it's certainly average at least, but it's a tiny purple patch on his career in the top two flights and if you're going to judge the player on one brief, decent-ish run of form when he was a very big fish in a very small pond then. :dunno:

Not consistent, not talented, not for Leicester.

Edmund

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If they're competing to be played in the same positions (wing and up top, though I appreciate that's not the only place Gallagher will play) then I don't see harm in comparing them, though you can just as easily compare DJ to Fryatt or Waghorn if you'd rather. Both of whom look more solid, look more reliable with the ball at feet and while Fryatt might not be the fastest player on Earth he's quick enough to get in behind defenders, as is Waghorn.

Fact of the matter is that Campbell's played for a number of managers at this club and at Birmingham, men who understand football and footballers, men who've seen him play every day on the training ground and on the pitch and none of them have thought he's good enough. When they've given him a go he's knocked up close to a hundred games between the two clubs and managed about fifteen goals. Bag of wank. And, as I said, besides goal scoring he offers absolutely shit all to a team. It'd be like if Michael Owen couldn't finish.

The only, only defense for DJ Campbell is "he did well at Blackpool." I'm sorry but scoring nine goals in twenty odd games is alright, it's certainly average at least, but it's a tiny purple patch on his career in the top two flights and if you're going to judge the player on one brief, decent-ish run of form when he was a very big fish in a very small pond then. :dunno:

Not consistent, not talented, not for Leicester.

I don't dispute the fact that the other strikers look stronger but you're ignoring the point that DJ hasn't been given a proper chance at the club. If DJ got the chances the other strikers have at the club then fair enough we could compare like for like but that's not the case. Yet when he does get the chance ala Blackpool and does well it's considered average. :dunno: Basically you don't want to know and wont accept he has potential.

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't he a regular starter under Bruce. Maybe not premiership standard hence why he sold him to us but as I remember he was a regular starter for them in that promotion winning season.

At the end of the day Finnegan we are never going to see eye to eye on the subject and personally I think it's a shame people are basing his ability on a season which was the most disastrous in the history of this football club. I like to think I see the bigger picture but hey only time will tell.

Finnegan

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If he was a regular starter under Bruce then that's even worse, to be honest.

End of the day he isn't better than what we're playing, I trust Pearson and I think if he was worth a run in the side he'd get a run in the side. He's just not a good player.

I'm not determined to think he's a bag of wank and I'm not being stubborn or narrow minded because I don't like him. I really wanted him to be good for us and on occasion I've said, yknow, give him a go. I always get excited when he comes on and I always want it to be a new dawn for him but it never is. He's just cack.

dandannieldanok

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It's not the offsides that even bother me it's his utter lack of productivity. "Oh he scares defenders", does he fook. They can just lean on him and he's useless, he's got about as much strength as me or LD3 - only at least Little Dave's got a bit of ability.

That's debatable, you always hear the defenders-turned-pundits say that they never liked playing against genuinely fast strikers, which Campbell is. Ok he's not "scary", no-one in this league is, but I reckon the large lumbering Plymouth defenders didn't mind Howard coming on instead of Campbell. I'm not saying he should be in the starting 11, but I just think if Pearson's going to reinstate him in the first team squad, the why not use him?

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