Oakley

[iancognito]

This thread is cracking me up. Fans wanting to break their own players legs, booing their captain for returning the good reception he got from a former team...

You lot are even bigger moaners than some at the City Ground I know. Let's hope the good vibes at being in the play-offs continue to a NFFC v LCFC Wembley final...

We like moaning. It helps us drown our sorrows and forget just how successful we've been this season.

[Bert]

Oakley was always going to get a good reception from the Derby fans. I wouldn't normally have minded him clapping their fans.

But, to clap three sides of the stand and then just turn to us and give us a quick clap is out of order. Personally, I thought he worked his socks off as he always does but his mind seemed set in sentiment yesterday. There's nothing we can do about it now, and getting on the players backs isn't going to help. We're having a mini blip and have 2 hard away games coming up, so we need to get behind the lads.

[fleckneymike]

To me what Oakley did was deliberately petulant.

For a captain to be subbed off they have to be playing pretty direly, which Oakley was, and has been for some considerable time. He then chose to make a point of slowly walking off the pitch applauding Derby first then us. Many people have viewed our fans grievance at this slight as hyper sensitivity but I believe Oakley knew exactly what he was doing, he's not some youth player making his way, he's and experienced pro and our captain. He knows the etiquette in these situations and decided to ignore it. He would have known that by milking the applause he would generate a good response from the Derby fans and slow down our substitution. These acts benefitted no one but Oakley and Derby.

[fatmando]

To be honest, we're in this position despite Matt Oakley. He's been the weak link nearly all season.

I agree with this. He is our weakest player at the mo (apart from when Mcgivern plays of course).

I didn't see what he did at the game but if he did take to long to get off and milk his old clubs clapping then it's a disgrace. His actions could have only had a negative influence on the rest of the lads.

Sometimes I question Oakleys desire to get promoted! He's only good enough for the league we are in now. He is not good enough for the Prem! LCFC getting promoted would not be good for him.

IMO - Drop him. Hobbs captain.

[Corky]

I agree with this. He is our weakest player at the mo (apart from when Mcgivern plays of course).

I didn't see what he did at the game but if he did take to long to get off and milk his old clubs clapping then it's a disgrace. His actions could have only had a negative influence on the rest of the lads.

Sometimes I question Oakleys desire to get promoted! He's only good enough for the league we are in now. He is not good enough for the Prem! LCFC getting promoted would not be good for him.

IMO - Drop him. Hobbs captain.

Why would he not want to get promoted? He'd be a captain that has skippered a side to back-to-back promotions and I'm sure he would want to put his previous season in the PL (with Derby) behind him by doing well.

[maddog]

Surprised he's got away with being so consistently crap all season, with only the odd good performance here and there.

He's very lucky he's the captain because if he wasn't he wouldn't have been playing most of the time and Dany/Adams would have had more games.

[Mee]

In my opinion i think Hobbs should be captain cause i think he leads from the back almost every game. Sometimes, i forget Oakley is captain, he never seems to 'take control' of the team.

[fatmando]

Why would he not want to get promoted? He'd be a captain that has skippered a side to back-to-back promotions and I'm sure he would want to put his previous season in the PL (with Derby) behind him by doing well.

As I said before, because he is not good enough. Why would he do any better for us in PL? It just seems to me sometimes he just doesn't have enough desire for it.

All the credit for back-to-back promotions would go to Pearson and Fryatt imo.

[THEBIGJOHNSTEADER;]

Too many moaners on here at the moment, and I don't like it, I might go away for another few years and come back when everyone has chirped up. Comments on Brown are a load of shit there were some horrible little c*nts abusing him from the stands, I wouldn't have called them wankers, I'd have jumped into the stand and attacked their hands and faces, and stinkholes

[Guest]

Too many moaners on here at the moment, and I don't like it, I might go away for another few years and come back when everyone has chirped up. Comments on Brown are a load of shit there were some horrible little c*nts abusing him from the stands, I wouldn't have called them wankers, I'd have jumped into the stand and attacked their hands and faces, and stinkholes

I see you didn't ever sort out the bum fetish!!

[THEBIGJOHNSTEADER;]

I see you didn't ever sort out the bum fetish!!

Yes Lisa, my current girlfriend got me into it, she's got the tiniest little stinkhole

[Guest]

Yes Lisa, my current girlfriend got me into it, she's got the tiniest little stinkhole

Too much information.

[lcfc_sam_p]

Players clap their former teams, it happens and there is nothing wrong with it, why is nobody complaining about Nobby Solano clapping the newcastle fans? Some of you will say he only gave us a small clap but after people are booing him what the hell do you expect? I find some of the comments on here, and some of the 'support' shown by some of our fans an embarassment. He was the captain who lead us to this division as champions, and also the same captain who has lead us to a top six place so far. Its easy how people forget that. Im sure NP has a more qualified opinion on here than any of us, and he has remained as captain. If you put half the effort into supporting him, and the rest of the team, than giving them stick and getting on their backs we would have a decent atmosphere every week. The same has happened with Ryan Mcgivern, no matter how bad he plays you shouldnt boo him or anyone else, and cheering ironically when he does something right really doesnt help. Its not going to give the player(s) more confidence, and it definitely isn't going to make them want to clap us. As for Wayne Brown, aparently calling some of our fans w4nkers, they probably deserved it. Obviously its not the right thing to do and he was bloody stupid and shuld be more professional, but, people give him stick when hes rubbish, so he gave some stick back when we showed rubbish support. Anyone who boo's the team, boo's the players, deserve it. Especially considering our league position.

[caz05]

Players clap their former teams, it happens and there is nothing wrong with it, why is nobody complaining about Nobby Solano clapping the newcastle fans? Some of you will say he only gave us a small clap but after people are booing him what the hell do you expect? I find some of the comments on here, and some of the 'support' shown by some of our fans an embarassment. He was the captain who lead us to this division as champions, and also the same captain who has lead us to a top six place so far. Its easy how people forget that. Im sure NP has a more qualified opinion on here than any of us, and he has remained as captain. If you put half the effort into supporting him, and the rest of the team, than giving them stick and getting on their backs we would have a decent atmosphere every week. The same has happened with Ryan Mcgivern, no matter how bad he plays you shouldnt boo him or anyone else, and cheering ironically when he does something right really doesnt help. Its not going to give the player(s) more confidence, and it definitely isn't going to make them want to clap us. As for Wayne Brown, aparently calling some of our fans w4nkers, they probably deserved it. Obviously its not the right thing to do and he was bloody stupid and shuld be more professional, but, people give him stick when hes rubbish, so he gave some stick back when we showed rubbish support. Anyone who boo's the team, boo's the players, deserve it. Especially considering our league position.

[Gaffer]

Players clap their former teams, it happens and there is nothing wrong with it, why is nobody complaining about Nobby Solano clapping the newcastle fans? Some of you will say he only gave us a small clap but after people are booing him what the hell do you expect?

Yet again.. I and many on here don't mind him giving his former club (whoever they may be) a clap going off, it's to be expected, we have no problem with it. But when you're 1-0 down against a local rival and the clock is ticking, to take your time pissing about clapping when you should be going off completing the substitute quickly. He had a stinker yesterday and should have got off the pitch as quickly as possible in order to benefit the team by shaking it up a bit. The captain is supposed to lead by example, dicking about isn't the thing to be showing the younger players. That's the reason(s) why people are pissed.

[bluebeau]

Players clap their former teams, it happens and there is nothing wrong with it, why is nobody complaining about Nobby Solano clapping the newcastle fans? Some of you will say he only gave us a small clap but after people are booing him what the hell do you expect? I find some of the comments on here, and some of the 'support' shown by some of our fans an embarassment. He was the captain who lead us to this division as champions, and also the same captain who has lead us to a top six place so far. Its easy how people forget that. Im sure NP has a more qualified opinion on here than any of us, and he has remained as captain. If you put half the effort into supporting him, and the rest of the team, than giving them stick and getting on their backs we would have a decent atmosphere every week. The same has happened with Ryan Mcgivern, no matter how bad he plays you shouldnt boo him or anyone else, and cheering ironically when he does something right really doesnt help. Its not going to give the player(s) more confidence, and it definitely isn't going to make them want to clap us. As for Wayne Brown, aparently calling some of our fans w4nkers, they probably deserved it. Obviously its not the right thing to do and he was bloody stupid and shuld be more professional, but, people give him stick when hes rubbish, so he gave some stick back when we showed rubbish support. Anyone who boo's the team, boo's the players, deserve it. Especially considering our league position.

Well said my friend, I have to agree with you 100%.

Wayne Brown has had the odd poor game for us, but he's had a lot more games where he's kept the opposition in check.

Some people are never happy no matter how well we are doing, they will always find something to moan & complain about, & booing our own players belies belief IMO.

[CosbehFox]

Foolish that is all.

But I'd like to ask the majority of support then what is the right manner to respect a club you've achieved something at. Cos it appears we don't like the attitiude Savage holds.

[bluebeau]

Too many moaners on here at the moment, and I don't like it, I might go away for another few years and come back when everyone has chirped up. Comments on Brown are a load of shit there were some horrible little c*nts abusing him from the stands, I wouldn't have called them wankers, I'd have jumped into the stand and attacked their hands and faces, and stinkholes

You sound like a really nice bloke, but I think I would take you up on your thought to go away for another few years, how about until the next millenium?

[Matt]

Howard is too friendly with the opposition's player for my liking recently...When warming up he's always chatting and having a joke with them

Right...Who's the next player on the hate list, that we want out of the club?

[Heart-Shaped Fox]

I remember this same weekend last season after that shit loss at Posh (similar game to yesterday really) Oakley got a load of abuse and a whole thread on him by someone, who wrote a post on here addressed to him moaning how he didnt clap the fans or perform well!

Wonder if they'll be another one this time next season!

[dogadug]

I remember this same weekend last season after that shit loss at Posh (similar game to yesterday really) Oakley got a load of abuse and a whole thread on him by someone, who wrote a post on here addressed to him moaning how he didnt clap the fans or perform well!

Wonder if they'll be another one this time next season!

Will he still be here next year?

[MC Prussian]

Players clap their former teams, it happens and there is nothing wrong with it, why is nobody complaining about Nobby Solano clapping the newcastle fans? Some of you will say he only gave us a small clap but after people are booing him what the hell do you expect? I find some of the comments on here, and some of the 'support' shown by some of our fans an embarassment. He was the captain who lead us to this division as champions, and also the same captain who has lead us to a top six place so far. Its easy how people forget that. Im sure NP has a more qualified opinion on here than any of us, and he has remained as captain. If you put half the effort into supporting him, and the rest of the team, than giving them stick and getting on their backs we would have a decent atmosphere every week. The same has happened with Ryan Mcgivern, no matter how bad he plays you shouldnt boo him or anyone else, and cheering ironically when he does something right really doesnt help. Its not going to give the player(s) more confidence, and it definitely isn't going to make them want to clap us. As for Wayne Brown, aparently calling some of our fans w4nkers, they probably deserved it. Obviously its not the right thing to do and he was bloody stupid and shuld be more professional, but, people give him stick when hes rubbish, so he gave some stick back when we showed rubbish support. Anyone who boo's the team, boo's the players, deserve it. Especially considering our league position.

I'd agree with the first part of that sentence. Oakley was an integral part during our League One campaign.

Yet, THIS SEASON, I can't really tell whether he's had that vital impact on our overall effort as you're pointing out at all. A captain's there on the pitch to lead and I can't say I've seen that coming from Oakley this season (with the odd exception).

Give the armband to Wellens or Hobbs and let Oakley rest. He's ****ing knackered and worn-out by playing in almost every single match from start to finish - and that clearly hasn't done him any good. On the contrary. His pace is suffering, so are his standards and he's nowhere near that leading role he's supposed to occupy.

And please don't start comparing the skills of Matt Oakley and Ryan McGivern. Two very different boots.

[Rich Fox]

To me what Oakley did was deliberately petulant.

For a captain to be subbed off they have to be playing pretty direly, which Oakley was, and has been for some considerable time. He then chose to make a point of slowly walking off the pitch applauding Derby first then us. Many people have viewed our fans grievance at this slight as hyper sensitivity but I believe Oakley knew exactly what he was doing, he's not some youth player making his way, he's and experienced pro and our captain. He knows the etiquette in these situations and decided to ignore it. He would have known that by milking the applause he would generate a good response from the Derby fans and slow down our substitution. These acts benefitted no one but Oakley and Derby.

You are right Oakley dont give a toss about playing for Leicester this was proved by slowly walking off when we were desperate for time in the game, you have made a good post people are even coming on this forum saying solano did the same thing clapping geordie fans this is utter crap, nobby has always given 100% he is a model professional and did not waste time and he was not being disrespecctful in any way.

Leicesters fans are no different to any other fans in the league and Oakley would have got the same level of abuse for what he did no matter who he was playing for so all you people saying our crowd are out of order this is bullshit he would have got slaughtered at ANY club in England for what he did.

I have read many posts saying our supporters are out of order sure there are always a few who go too far but we are no better or no worse than anyone else. Look at the way o neill gets booed by the villa fans now it happens at most clubs this dont make it acceptable but it happens everywhere.

[lcfc_sam_p]

Yet again.. I and many on here don't mind him giving his former club (whoever they may be) a clap going off, it's to be expected, we have no problem with it. But when you're 1-0 down against a local rival and the clock is ticking, to take your time pissing about clapping when you should be going off completing the substitute quickly. He had a stinker yesterday and should have got off the pitch as quickly as possible in order to benefit the team by shaking it up a bit. The captain is supposed to lead by example, dicking about isn't the thing to be showing the younger players. That's the reason(s) why people are pissed.

The ref adds time on anyway, so it doesnt really matter how long it takes for him to get off of the pitch, and there is no rule that states a player has to run off the pitch.

I'd agree with the first part of that sentence. Oakley was an integral part during our League One campaign.

Yet, THIS SEASON, I can't really tell whether he's had that vital impact on our overall effort as you're pointing out at all. A captain's there on the pitch to lead and I can't say I've seen that coming from Oakley this season (with the odd exception).

Give the armband to Wellens or Hobbs and let Oakley rest. He's ****ing knackered and worn-out by playing in almost every single match from start to finish - and that clearly hasn't done him any good. On the contrary. His pace is suffering, so are his standards and he's nowhere near that leading role he's supposed to occupy.

And please don't start comparing the skills of Matt Oakley and Ryan McGivern. Two very different boots.

How can you say you havent seen oakley lead on the pitch? If he wasnt leading on the pitch im sure NP would also have seen this and therefore given someone else the armband. Everytime i have seen oakley play he seems to give 100% IMO. He may need a rest, but he shouldnt be dropped due to the way hes playing this season. Most of the season he has been played out of position, and Wellens or King havent shown anything to suggest that they would do a better job. Do you mean give the armband permanently or temporarily? Hobbs is not captain material yet, hes too inexperienced. He will be a candidate for captain in a couple of years but not now.

And where in my post did i compare the footballing ability of oakley and mcgivern?? I compared the 'support' of some of our fans towards the both of them, which is nothing short of an embarassment at times.