Swalker Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 I have been reading people's player ratings for the past few games and I was wondering why people criticise Gallagher so much because out of all of our first 11 that played against Watford there is only him, king and maybe Vassel how can score a goal out of nothing. He has a quality touch and strikes the ball very cleanly and is also not too bad in the air either. Could somebody please explain to me why he gets criticised more than other players.
Baby Elvis Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 I have been reading people's player ratings for the past few games and I was wondering why people criticise Gallagher so much because out of all of our first 11 that played against Watford there is only him, king and maybe Vassel how can score a goal out of nothing. He has a quality touch and strikes the ball very cleanly and is also not too bad in the air either. Could somebody please explain to me why he gets criticised more than other players. Its hard to say mate.. but i think its comes down to weather you like him or hate.. hit and miss! But i really like Gallagher and cannot understand why people rate him so low!
iBleedLeicesterColours Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 Quality player. However, only seems to usually do well when the team is. When the team plays badly or average, he goes missing. Also seems to wimp out of tackles and turns back and slows down rather than running at defenders. Although i'd always have him in the starting XI, his goals from free kicks % is pretty good and he's got that bit of creativity some of the others haven't.
woznotwos Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 He misses a bucket full but hes getting into those positions to give himself that chance , guess it depends on which way you look at it . Can take him or leave him myself .
iBleedLeicesterColours Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 I have been reading people's player ratings for the past few games and I was wondering why people criticise Gallagher so much because out of all of our first 11 that played against Watford there is only him, king and maybe Vassel how can score a goal out of nothing. He has a quality touch and strikes the ball very cleanly and is also not too bad in the air either. Could somebody please explain to me why he gets criticised more than other players. Sure you got the right man ? hes over 6ft and never wins anything in the air ?
Wymsey Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 Is he struggling with some kind of injury? When's he's injury free he is generally ok.
orangecity23 Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 If he was brave he'd be an excellent player. He has good technique, and he gets into some decent positions, and he should score plenty more goals than he does. Unfortunately, he's a massive wuss, and invariably bottles any shooting chance where there's a chance he'll get clattered by a tackle. Time after time you'll see him blaze a shot over the bar because he's leaned back when a defender closed in. Gallagher's a good player, but will invariably polarize opinions because people can see that potentially he could be a much better player. It's the unfufilled potential that gets some people's goat. I like him, but he frustrates as much as he delights.
Guest NGoloMode Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 Gallagher doesnt even jump for headers.
lcfc_jme Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 Gallagher gets criticised so much because he's generally lazy and has the bravery of a French soldier. As long as he continues to chip in with goals, it shouldn't be a problem but his lack of physical presence can make his anonymity seem so much more amplified when we're playing badly as a side that he's always likely to be a big target amongst our fans.
Swalker Posted 5 December 2010 Author Posted 5 December 2010 But the alternate to playing Gallagher would be to play Dyer who even though he looks threatening he isn't strong enough on the ball, wins less headers than Gallagher, provides less defensive cover and is also not as strong in his tackles as Gallagher. So I'm not quite sure why some people would prefer Dyer.
Fosse Boy Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 Gallagher gets criticised so much because he's generally lazy and has the bravery of a French soldier. As long as he continues to chip in with goals, it shouldn't be a problem but his lack of physical presence can make his anonymity seem so much more amplified when we're playing badly as a side that he's always likely to be a big target amongst our fans. I have a deep fondness for Gallagher but he can just be so up and down. Like you say, his weaknesses are rarely apparent when he's hitting the net or fancies making a go of it out wide running at people, but when he's having an off-day and stumbling over his own boots trying daft tricks it's really noticeable.
Al-aLondon-Foxile Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 Good pen today, pretty unstoppable, however the free kick should have been saved IMO. If it was Weale we would have moaned at him. Gally has a great touch, but I agree with the other comments. We seem to love players that chase lost causes, and seem to wanna die for us but Gally isn't that kinda player & so he will divide opinion.
Blue fox David Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 He's too inconsistent and fluffs a lot of decent chances. I like him and think he's a good player- creative, skillful and has a good eye for a pass, but he's generally lazy and wastes too many good chances for me to be honest.
MPH Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 so there we have it. lots of people now love gallagher who hated him a few weeks ago, I love the people on this forum...
Kitchandro Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 I can understand people's criticisms of him , he isn't great in the air, misses some good chances, and isn't a good tackler. He is also slow and inconsistent. But I'd like people to realise it when he does good things. Some people say 'he does nothing except score a free kick every now and then'. But for me that's very unfair. Look at the game against Derby, it's by no means his only good performance this season but it was his best. He is a good passer and has quick feet. He can spot a long pass and knows how to get himself into good positions. He can create chances through skill and a good delivery. He does shoot quite often for me (a lot more often than Wellens that's for sure). In fact he often seems one of the few who will shoot from distance. Basically, he is good on the ball and as others have said, he is one of the few who can find moments of magic, whether it be a pass, a shot, a cross or a free kick. Now I'll admit he's inconsistent, but players of that type are, otherwise they'd be playing at the very top. The point is that you need a player who can create something out of nothing. They won't do it every time they get the ball, but you only need to see it once or twice a match and there's your goal. And you also need players who will entertain, and he does. And to be fair, he has four goals, which is more than most of our players, and he has a few assists as well. He got 2 goals today, fine, he was crap, but the stats will show 2 goals is all we got from the game. Like I say I can understand people criticising him and he may well have been crap today, but I do think he's another one of those players that some people really like and the others really dislike - I mean people saying his penalty was shit??? It was a confident well struck spot kick in the corner, what more do you want???
Swalker Posted 5 December 2010 Author Posted 5 December 2010 I can understand people's criticisms of him , he isn't great in the air, misses some good chances, and isn't a good tackler. He is also slow and inconsistent.But I'd like people to realise it when he does good things. Some people say 'he does nothing except score a free kick every now and then'. But for me that's very unfair. Look at the game against Derby, it's by no means his only good performance this season but it was his best. He is a good passer and has quick feet. He can spot a long pass and knows how to get himself into good positions. He can create chances through skill and a good delivery. He does shoot quite often for me (a lot more often than Wellens that's for sure). In fact he often seems one of the few who will shoot from distance. Basically, he is good on the ball and as others have said, he is one of the few who can find moments of magic, whether it be a pass, a shot, a cross or a free kick. Now I'll admit he's inconsistent, but players of that type are, otherwise they'd be playing at the very top. The point is that you need a player who can create something out of nothing. They won't do it every time they get the ball, but you only need to see it once or twice a match and there's your goal. And you also need players who will entertain, and he does. And to be fair, he has four goals, which is more than most of our players, and he has a few assists as well. He got 2 goals today, fine, he was crap, but the stats will show 2 goals is all we got from the game. Like I say I can understand people criticising him and he may well have been crap today, but I do think he's another one of those players that some people really like and the others really dislike - I mean people saying his penalty was shit??? It was a confident well struck spot kick in the corner, what more do you want??? Great analysis because he is inconsistent but when he plays well he creates moments of magic with great vision. I'd agree if he was better defensively and showed more courage he would be a complete quality player but then again if he was to do that he could very well be playing at a higher level than us because he has the potential.
hackneyfox Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 Superb penalty, good free kick although the goalie was in completely the wrong position for it. Involved in so much of the play but when he had the chance of a third he side footed it to the goalie, which I had expected him to do from the penalty. Has been a potentially good player for a number of years and that says it all. He certainly isn't Premier class and isn't good enough to actually get us up there either.
Koke Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 He's a wimp. He backs out of tackles and he can't head for shit despite being 6'0 tall. Though he does have his moments of brilliance. And I still prefer him over Dyer thou.
dannythefox Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 Like the lad but only plays really well one in 3 or 4 games, should score double what he does.
ozleicester Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 Big fan of Gally, has the best technique in the side and (without comparing) he is in a similar vein to Beckham for me, composed on the ball, always looking to pick out a leicester player. The reason, ( i think,) that he gets so much criticism, is that he, more than any other player in the side, makes himself available, he is the one who is making space and giving options, this of course means he draws the ball a lot and is more likely to be caught out. All in all, a quality player who prob will be a capable prem league player.
Jakemoore Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 Quality player. However, only seems to usually do well when the team is. When the team plays badly or average, he goes missing. Also seems to wimp out of tackles and turns back and slows down rather than running at defenders. Although i'd always have him in the starting XI, his goals from free kicks % is pretty good and he's got that bit of creativity some of the others haven't. I disagree 100% with your first point, cast your mind back to last season. Crystal Palace at home, we were 0-1 down; Gally came on and scored 2 goals to win it 2-1. Decent player in my opinion but he just lacks form, he dips in and out of form
VampLCFC Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 We actually won that game 2-0 :-) I like Gallagher, but he's extremely frustrating, look at that glaring opportunity he had yesterday to bag a hat trick, if he had side footed it first time with his left foot it was virtually unmissable! Instead he took about 5 touches to get it onto his right foot and basically rolled it back to the keeper. Reminds me a bit of Fryatt in that sense, completely unwilling to use his left foot!
marbelladave Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 Gallagher is not a striker, important this, so I will say it again, he is not a striker! It does not matter what position he is played in, he simply does not have the instincts of a striker. He reacts poorly to the chances and half chances that fall to him in and around the 6 yard box as was amply demonstrated yesterday, he hit a great chance straight at the keeper and 'wimped' out on a header that any worthwhile striker would have buried. Currently he is deployed in a wide position with a degree of freedom to come inside, when he does so he looks effective but when he stays wide he is a peripheral figure, hence his tendency to drift in and out of games. I have said this before, but he needs to be given the attacking central midfield role to be truly effective. He needs to get on the ball in front of the opposition back 4 and play from there, he can play his team mates in with his sharp passing and as we know he posesses a real goal threat from distance, he could actually provide our midfield with the creativity that it so clearly lacks. Of course there is an issue here, with Gallagher in midfield there is only space for two of our three regular midfielders, someone has to drop out. To me that is not an issue as, despite all the running and effort, our midfield really is not that effective. Much of the time Wellens, King and Abe seem to be doing pretty much the same job, there is no variety and as a consequence prescious little in the way of a cutting edge. Gallagher could give us this edge, give him the playmaker role supported by two of our usual three midfielders playing just that bit deeper than is currently the case. Which two is open to debate, I know my preference but others will undoubtable think differently. Oh, one last thing, dropping Gallagher into midfield frees up a position for someone who might actually score goals from close in, with Fryatt seemingly on his way out that means a place for Dyer or Wahorn either of whom would be more effective given enough game time.
Guest Mee-9 Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 Was having a chat by the coaches yesterday, and some bloke hit the nail on the head. Its one of the first times he could say that, even a player who scored two goals played crap. He's good, but doesnt hack it for me, he doesnt offer anything else much except set peices. For example that header yesterday or the shot in the box, he should of buried them. Plus his corners are woeful.
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 I have been reading people's player ratings for the past few games and I was wondering why people criticise Gallagher so much because out of all of our first 11 that played against Watford there is only him, king and maybe Vassel how can score a goal out of nothing. He has a quality touch and strikes the ball very cleanly and is also not too bad in the air either. Could somebody please explain to me why he gets criticised more than other players. Because he isnt as good as he thinks he is. He lives off the off godd set piece and thats it, that is mainly his whole contribution to the team. How can you say he wins headers? He is bloody awful in the air. He is about 6ft and everytime he jumps with a rival player he never wins it. Quite poor considering King and even Abe win so many more. He misses so many chances, he alone could have killed the game off yesterday, but put two shots straight at the keeper. And some people on here call for him to be played up front! The reason he doesnt is becuase he isnt clinical. And he is so weak. He isnt small, but gets easily pushed off the ball, and as he isnt quick either like Vassell or Dyer he loses it easily.
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