Swalker Posted 5 December 2010 Author Posted 5 December 2010 It says something about a player though doesn't it if he can have a bad game and not really be in the game but then turn the game around and still score 2 goals and get himself into the game? However, I do agree that he would be better in the 'hole' maybe play him in Kings role, have King playing where Wellens plays- making the dangerous runs into the box and then have Abe behind cover the defence and making his frantic tackling of any player who comes within 20 yards of him. Wellens even though he is a good player and has served the side well over the past few seasons just doesn't look a goal threat and seems to be too far in front to be a holding midfielder. Maybe Sven might have to try this in January when Abe is in the Asia cup and try Moussa/ Waghorn/ Dyer out on the left- maybe Moussa because he offers something 'different to attack' and then use Dyer to run at tired defenders.
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 After watching the goals yesterday I would too. You wouldnt if you had seen all those misses by him.
B52 Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 You wouldnt if you had seen all those misses by him. Well, it looks like his legs turns to wood in front of goal so I'm glad I only watched the highlights.
Father Ted Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 I really rate him. He has bags of ability and is a player with pure class and skill - unfortunately in this day and age - espescially in British football, they want players who get stuck in, kick the living daylights out of each other and play hoofball. Gallagher should be playing in Spain.
sphericalfox Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 I'd like to see the position of where Gallagher has scored all his free kicks from, cos I could swear that they have been in the best possible position, and worst for the oppositional keeper. If it's not dead or near centre I believe it's a clear miss. I do wish Abe would take a couple of free kicks, and/or take some of the corners. I would have thought half of all Gallagher's corners don't make it past the first man, or fly over the heads of everyone in the box. I could be wrong and don't mind being corrected.
Jakemoore Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 We actually won that game 2-0 :-) I like Gallagher, but he's extremely frustrating, look at that glaring opportunity he had yesterday to bag a hat trick, if he had side footed it first time with his left foot it was virtually unmissable! Instead he took about 5 touches to get it onto his right foot and basically rolled it back to the keeper. Reminds me a bit of Fryatt in that sense, completely unwilling to use his left foot! DOH!! Knew that )
lildave3 Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 so there we have it. lots of people now love gallagher who hated him a few weeks ago, I love the people on this forum... I hated him then and I hate him now. One of those players I take an instant dislike to when they first arrive and my opinion doesn't change. The guy thinks he's Beckham, and while he does take a good free kick, that's about it. Everyone creams over him because he looks 'technically brilliant' when he's prancing about and trying to ping 40 yard balls everywhere or curl a shot in from 35 yards. Most of the time his tracking back is virtually non existant he's just generally a pansy. Seen a facebook status after Saturdays game claiming he was a 'natural striker' after he scores a penalty and a free kick but according to people who went to the game he missed chance after chance. Made me chuckle. Give me Dyer, Waghorn, Vassell over him anyday.
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 I hated him then and I hate him now. One of those players I take an instant dislike to when they first arrive and my opinion doesn't change. The guy thinks he's Beckham, and while he does take a good free kick, that's about it. Everyone creams over him because he looks 'technically brilliant' when he's prancing about and trying to ping 40 yard balls everywhere or curl a shot in from 35 yards. Most of the time his tracking back is virtually non existant he's just generally a pansy. Seen a facebook status after Saturdays game claiming he was a 'natural striker' after he scores a penalty and a free kick but according to people who went to the game he missed chance after chance. Made me chuckle. Give me Dyer, Waghorn, Vassell over him anyday. This. Great post +1 That bit about doing the odd free kick and that being it is exactly the point I have been making. Makes me laugh when people say 'play him up front', if he was played up front, we would score even less than we already do.
Corky Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 I really rate him. He has bags of ability and is a player with pure class and skill - unfortunately in this day and age - espescially in British football, they want players who get stuck in, kick the living daylights out of each other and play hoofball. Gallagher should be playing in Spain. Maybe it's the fact he doesn't remotely look like ever getting stuck in that is people's problem with him?
RGFox Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 Funny match for Gallagher on sat. Thought he shirked a few challenges and gave the ball away quite often. He also missed an excellent chance from 10 yards out. A lot of complaints (myself included) at that stage. Having said that, he scored the penalty and a decent free-kick. Sven definitely seems to like him though.
Swalker Posted 5 December 2010 Author Posted 5 December 2010 Funny match for Gallagher on sat.Thought he shirked a few challenges and gave the ball away quite often.He also missed an excellent chance from 10 yards out. A lot of complaints (myself included) at that stage.Having said that, he scored the penalty and a decent free-kick. Sven definitely seems to like him though. He is definitely looking more threatening and is more consistent under Sven now then he was under Pearson or Sousa. I think Sven's confidence in him can only be a good thing for Gallagher.
Matt Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 My biggest frustration with him is he shoots from distance quite often and takes stupid shots when he hardly scores from them.
okie fox Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 Of course there is an issue here, with Gallagher in midfield there is only space for two of our three regular midfielders, someone has to drop out. To me that is not an issue as, despite all the running and effort, our midfield really is not that effective. Much of the time Wellens, King and Abe seem to be doing pretty much the same job, there is no variety and as a consequence prescious little in the way of a cutting edge. Gallagher could give us this edge, give him the playmaker role supported by two of our usual three midfielders playing just that bit deeper than is currently the case. Which two is open to debate, I know my preference but others will undoubtable think differently. So dropping Wellens, who has 5 assists in the league this season, for Gallagher, who has two, would give us more of a cutting edge! Gallagher is a slow wimp with a good first touch. He is never going to run the show in midfield like Wellens did against Derby.
Father Ted Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 Maybe it's the fact he doesn't remotely look like ever getting stuck in that is people's problem with him? Well yeah, he's not the sort to go out and put crunching tackles in or trying to win headers from goal kicks. I can understand that tbh but I think people get most annoyed when he loses the ball and makes no effort to win the ball back or track back. That is just criminal.
North-LondonFox Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 I don't think dropping Wellens is a good idea at all. He is by far the best passing MF we have at the moment and I thought he was terrific against the enemy on Monday. Gally is a useful player to have in the squad, but he wouldn't make my first eleven which would include our current MF trio, with Dyer and Vassie either side of Bednar in the front three. I am hoping Bednar shakes off the rust soon though, I think he's struggled a bit thus far, but I have confidence in the guy.
hackneyfox Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 He has got to be the only player in City history who has never had a natural postion with us. Hume And Gallagher reminds me of him, he's a much better player but is neither striker, winger or midfielder.
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 5 December 2010 Posted 5 December 2010 Hume And Gallagher reminds me of him, he's a much better player but is neither striker, winger or midfielder. Hume was a striker. Usually to be a striker, you have to be big and strong and be dominant in the air, or small and quick. Hume was the second and did score a few goals for us, and was played up front, until Holloway came along and played him on the wing.
Kitchandro Posted 6 December 2010 Posted 6 December 2010 People keep saying he does nothing but score free kicks, followed by the phrases 'he missed a sitter on Saturday' and 'he can't tackle'. Criticisms duly noted but those aren't the only things you can do for the team. Many great players are useless at defending and aren't great finishers. Some players are great tacklersnd can finish but aren't creative. Every player has their strengths and weaknesses. If you ask me Gallagher's strengths are important, it's not his job to defend, and he's not a striker, it's his job to create. I don't agree that he's lazy, not nearly as lazy as Vassell, he's slow and a rubbish tackler, he hasn't got a clue how to jockey or time his tackles but not lazy.
Koke Posted 6 December 2010 Posted 6 December 2010 Vassell is anything but lazy. He's made a career out of being a hard-working git. The talent he posses is minimal, but he's gotten to the heights he has due to sheer hard work.
marbelladave Posted 6 December 2010 Posted 6 December 2010 So dropping Wellens, who has 5 assists in the league this season, for Gallagher, who has two, would give us more of a cutting edge! Gallagher is a slow wimp with a good first touch. He is never going to run the show in midfield like Wellens did against Derby. I agree that breaking up our current midfield to include Gallagher is contentious and if we were playing well and winning games I would not suggest it, but we are not and I feel all areas of our game need improvement. Wellens has played most of the games this season and is our primary playmaker so 5 assists is perhaps not enough. Gallagher missed a lot of games early on and has been played mostly on the wing, he scores more goals and has a couple of assists, not remotely conclusive. However this is slightly to miss the point, Wellens, Abe and King seem to duplicate each others efforts, to a degree at least. I just feel we need more variation and at the moment Gallagher is probably the best option, I know he is nowhere near as combative as Wellens but I still feel that, involved though he may be, Wellens simply does not produce enough given the importance of his role. Another advantage of playing Gallagher in midfield is that we can play someone else up front with better striking instincts or if preferred with Dyer as an attacking winger. As i said, we are not scoring enough so we need to make some changes, just rotating the strikers has not worked so we need to try something else. We need to make some changes if we are to start beating teams like Bristol and Watford on a consistent basis, our current set up is not doing it, so I am making some suggestions that might improve things. Other suggestions gratefully received...
Haydos Posted 6 December 2010 Posted 6 December 2010 I'm siding with those who think he's best played as a number 10 in the hole but if he does play higher up as a head of a midfield 3 then (as has been pointed out) we have to drop abe/king/wellens. If this ever did occur I think it would have to come down to svens decision making with regards to our opposition. Against teams with less dominant midfields i reckon he could have a job to play in front of wellens and king (dropping abe as i feel he would be the most wasted talent in this scenario). This gives him the opportunity to actually play a bit where he seems to prefer whist wellens continues to play as a ball carrier a bit deeper and king is still allowed his roaming role. Obviously there is the proviso that he is used against weaker midfields and i think this is unfortunately key. Don't believe things are gonna change too extremely though, these are just a few thoughts
MC Prussian Posted 6 December 2010 Posted 6 December 2010 He's a bit of a sissy on the pitch, doesn't like one-on-ones (Touching Me, Touching You - No, no) and exemplifies our current stretch of inconsistency. Sometimes brilliant with his handling of the ball, sometimes not even remotely interested in winning a single ball back.
Finnegan Posted 6 December 2010 Posted 6 December 2010 I don't agree that he's lazy, not nearly as lazy as Vassell Vassell? Lazy? Vassell isn't lazy, Vassell isn't fit. He's about six months behind the rest of the squad in regards personal training.
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