themotivator Posted 18 December 2010 Posted 18 December 2010 Who do you bring in though Mote? Kirkland is the goalkeeping version of Darren Anderton, and I am just not feeling it with Davies, not entirely sure we are more solid with Cunningham then we were with Bruno, and Bruno scored a few last year aswell, of course Bruno hasn't got the legs but we're not defending as a unit and its alarm bells away from home because the away form is as bad as fooking Sousa's spell. For me only Naughton is worth some green at the moment. Hard to believe that in August we needed 2-3 players to create a potentially championship winning team, now its just 2-3 from last season that feature regularly. no idea who we will bring in. cant see all of the loanees staying, bendar especially, and the speculation surrounding davies just shows that nothing is certain. i just hope we can emerge with a confident 11 who can string results together. i agree with your last point though. i still trust sven to give us a very good chance of climbing the table.
Number 6 Posted 18 December 2010 Posted 18 December 2010 Anyone can put a decent team together with endless funds. But it takes someone special to make just anyone play, anytime, anywhere. Time for the man to stand up in my view and for his team to do the same. Couldnt agree more - the jury is still out on Sven Club managerial honours * Göteborg o Svenska Cupen Winners 1979, 1982 o Allsvenskan Champions 1982 o UEFA Cup Winners 1982 * Benfica o Portuguese Liga Champions 1983, 1984, 1991 o Cup of Portugal Winners 1983 o SuperCup Cândido de Oliveira Champions 1989 o European Cup Runners Up 1990 o UEFA Cup Runners Up 1983 * Roma o Coppa Italia Winners 1986 * Sampdoria o Coppa Italia Winners 1994 * Lazio o Coppa Italia Winners 1998, 2000 o Italian Super Cup Winners 1998, 2000 o UEFA Cup Winners' Cup Winners 1999 o UEFA Super Cup Winners 1999 o Serie A Champions 2000 o UEFA Cup Runners Up 1998 * England o FA Summer Tournament Winners 2004
Thracian Posted 18 December 2010 Posted 18 December 2010 Club managerial honours * Göteborg o Svenska Cupen Winners 1979, 1982 o Allsvenskan Champions 1982 o UEFA Cup Winners 1982 * Benfica o Portuguese Liga Champions 1983, 1984, 1991 o Cup of Portugal Winners 1983 o SuperCup Cândido de Oliveira Champions 1989 o European Cup Runners Up 1990 o UEFA Cup Runners Up 1983 * Roma o Coppa Italia Winners 1986 * Sampdoria o Coppa Italia Winners 1994 * Lazio o Coppa Italia Winners 1998, 2000 o Italian Super Cup Winners 1998, 2000 o UEFA Cup Winners' Cup Winners 1999 o UEFA Super Cup Winners 1999 o Serie A Champions 2000 o UEFA Cup Runners Up 1998 * England o FA Summer Tournament Winners 2004 No-one said he couldn't manage teams in the sunshine or when he's got more resources than most others.
smudger63 Posted 18 December 2010 Posted 18 December 2010 Fair play to ipswich, they adapted better to the conditions, and deserved they`re win, but, it doesn`t change the fact, that the game should have been called off. All the talk of, ipswich leading 3-0, made it a hard decision for the referee, is utter tosh. If it had been level at half time, it would have been called off. Whether one team is leading or not, shouldn`t even come into the thinking. All he has to worry about is the players safety, not what the score is, and if there was the slightest danger, it should be called off, and blatantly there was! Also suprised that the local police didn`t ask for it to be abandoned, for the safety of the supporters, and i wish all our fans that made the journey, a safe trip home. I also think that we possibly went into the game, with the mindset, the game should have been, or was going to be abandoned, which wouldn`t have helped our performance either. I agree with sven though, that wasn`t a good advert for english football, and the rest of the world must think we`re all completely bonkers, to be attempting to play a football match, in those conditions. Oh, and i realised a long time ago, that peter beagrie hated us, i`m kind of used to that, never expect anything else from him, but never realised what a complete tosser scowcroft is, until tonight!
Callabinho Posted 18 December 2010 Posted 18 December 2010 Ficking shit so pissed off, that game should not have been played bull shit! I'm vexed!
themotivator Posted 18 December 2010 Posted 18 December 2010 has there been confirmation of all the injuries? i saw someone throwing around the number 5!
Thracian Posted 18 December 2010 Posted 18 December 2010 What next - let's call it off if it rains - cos our players will be at greater risk of catching colds and some twat might slip down steps on the way home.
breadandcheese Posted 18 December 2010 Posted 18 December 2010 What next - let's call it off if it rains - cos our players will be at greater risk of catching colds and some twat might slip down steps on the way home. For someone who puts a lot of stock behind playing fast-flowing attacking football, I'm amazed that you feel the blizzard conditions are suitable for football. Can you please explain why the Chelsea-Man U game was called off this morning when they're playing tomorrow? Could it be that the conditions are not conducive to top level football and help to contribute towards injury?
Guest Mee-9 Posted 18 December 2010 Posted 18 December 2010 What next - let's call it off if it rains - cos our players will be at greater risk of catching colds and some twat might slip down steps on the way home. Dont be such a cvnt. The fact of the matter is, most fixtures were NOT played today, due to the weather/frozen pitch. What if a player gets tackled, lands onto the ground, which is about as bad as concrete, Pretty much a decent chance of a leg break. Our players stuck their bodys on the line to get a result today. The result being, 0 points, Few injured players. You wouldn't play in that, I wouldn't play in that.
Thracian Posted 18 December 2010 Posted 18 December 2010 For someone who puts a lot of stock behind playing fast-flowing attacking football, I'm amazed that you feel the blizzard conditions are suitable for football. Can you please explain why the Chelsea-Man U game was called off this morning when they're playing tomorrow? Could it be that the conditions are not conducive to top level football and help to contribute towards injury? I never suggested conditions were suited to fancy football. But they were the conditions of the day, the conditions that Ipswich tackled with relish but we didn't.
Callabinho Posted 18 December 2010 Posted 18 December 2010 has there been confirmation of all the injuries? i saw someone throwing around the number 5! Vitor has pulled his hamstring they suspect, same with davies, I'm so angry, seventh place at grabs and every thing fooked up
scott_gunnell Posted 18 December 2010 Posted 18 December 2010 Its good to see most fans are not jumping on Sven for this bad away result. Some unrealistic idiots on here, but overall the fans realise a few keys things. 1) Would NEVER have gone ahead if it wasn’t on Sky. 2) How can you break a game for 18 minutes in second half after 20 minutes break half time. 3) The grounds man wouldn’t have worked their arses off to sort the pitch out at half time if they where losing 3-0 4) The game more than likely would have been called off had the score been 0-0 at half time. 5) Leicester’s new style of quick fire passing which they train to do EVERY day as Sven and players have confirmed, was NEVER suited for this condition. 6) Money talks You lot was really screwed. But as I said, cool to see most of you back Sven on this one. Does anyone think it would have been 3-0 on a sunny day? I bet not many think it would have been.
breadandcheese Posted 18 December 2010 Posted 18 December 2010 I never suggested conditions were suited to fancy football. But they were the conditions of the day, the conditions that Ipswich tackled with relish but we didn't. The conditions that the Premier League are not asking Alex Ferguson and Carlo Ancelotti (those know nothings in the game) to send their teams out in. Bear in mind that the Chelsea-Man Utd game is worth huge amounts of money in lost revenue, but they do not dare risk sending the teams out to play, nor sit and wait 24 hours to see if conditions improve for tomorrow. If you listen to Keane's interview at the end of the game, he chose his words very carefully and was more surprised that the game lasted the full 90 minutes. The game should not have been played, whether we had won or lost.
Thracian Posted 18 December 2010 Posted 18 December 2010 Dont be such a cvnt. The fact of the matter is, most fixtures were NOT played today, due to the weather/frozen pitch. What if a player gets tackled, lands onto the ground, which is about as bad as concrete, Pretty much a decent chance of a leg break. Our players stuck their bodys on the line to get a result today. The result being, 0 points, Few injured players. You wouldn't play in that, I wouldn't play in that. I don't give a toss about other games. The referee said our game was on. Those weren't leg-breaking conditions and you can break a leg in any football match - it's a hazard of the job. And I played in far worse than that stacks of times. Snow, ice, six-inches of mud, hailstorms, thunderstorms, fog. Bloody hell, I don;'t think it was ever as good as today in Grimsby or S****horpe with the howling gales and incessant rain.
Bert Posted 18 December 2010 Posted 18 December 2010 I Wish people would stop with 'if it was 0-0 at half time' It wasn't, the players were playing as if they expected it to be called off, (which it should've done.) but it wasn't and we only have ourselves to blame. Nothing's going to change the result, we need to get this out of the system and focus on our next game. We should certainly put some form of complain in to the FA though. Atwell didn't put our players safety first and we've now got two good defenders injured due to this.
Salieri Posted 18 December 2010 Posted 18 December 2010 Haven't read the thread and didn't attend (watched the game in the pub) so just going to say this : First and foremost, total sympathy to the fans who travelled to watch that shower of shit. The game never should have gone ahead BUT it did and Ipswich were up for it and coped with the conditions far better than we did. We never looked up for it from the off and there should be no excuses as it was a level playing field so to speak. We were an embarrassment, the whole lot of them should be ashamed. Totally inept. I've still got faith we will do well this season and this was a freak game, but the players should be ashamed of their performance in front of the hardy fans who made the trip this evening.
scott_gunnell Posted 18 December 2010 Posted 18 December 2010 Heres a good point lads. Ipswich can play well on snow, Leicester cant, does it really matter in the scale of the amount of times this will happen!!!! Sven wont be training his players to play in snow as most games will not be a snow field, and most games will be called off. Just unlucky really. As Sven said, what can he tell his players????
Salieri Posted 18 December 2010 Posted 18 December 2010 Heres a good point lads. Ipswich can play well on snow, Leicester cant, does it really matter in the scale of the amount of times this will happen!!!! Sven wont be training his players to play in snow as most games will not be a snow field, and most games will be called off. Just unlucky really. As Sven said, what can he tell his players???? So why can Ipswich play well in the snow? That's no excuse. Just accept we were bobbins tonight and move on.
scott_gunnell Posted 18 December 2010 Posted 18 December 2010 ...Ipswich were up for it and coped with the conditions far better than we did. We never looked up for it from the off and there should be no excuses as it was a level playing field so to speak. I agree, and yes in logic it was an even field. BUT, Sven must build the team for conditions that are not snow becasuse 99% games will NOT be that way. Ipswich adapted so fair play to them.... but when the pitch is normal Leicester are much better and so I dont think being harsh is fair in the circumstances" Nice to debate tho, no offence my friend
scott_gunnell Posted 18 December 2010 Posted 18 December 2010 So why can Ipswich play well in the snow? That's no excuse. Just accept we were bobbins tonight and move on. Because Ipswich have a different style to what Sven is building. Do you really think Chelsea and Arsenal would play their normal fluent passing game on it? So are you saying it was pure coincidence then that we lose 3-0 against Ipswich and the snow had nothing to do with it???? its possible BUT,,,,,, unlucky my friend.
Corky Posted 18 December 2010 Posted 18 December 2010 Well that was a farce. First of all we didn't play well, gave away soft goals and didn't pose enough threat up front. Vassell couldn't get control of the ball most of the time and the midfield was overrun. Deserved to lose. Now on to the referee. What was he on? How on earth did he think stopping the game to clear some of the pitch of snow, when it was still coming down heavily, would make any significant difference? Surely, having extended the half time only to stop the game 12 minutes after it, he would've known that conditions would not improve. Just get on the with the game and don't waste people's time or call it off there and then. We do need to sort out our away form quickly, as it's holding us back. I thought our fans were in good voice and humour tonight, just a shame that the match was memorable for the wrong reasons.
scott_gunnell Posted 18 December 2010 Posted 18 December 2010 We do need to sort out our away form quickly.... Things have improved in a big way, give Sven time and the away form will be sorted. This game... dont be to hard on the away form in these conditions.
Salieri Posted 18 December 2010 Posted 18 December 2010 Because Ipswich have a different style to what Sven is building. Do you really think Chelsea and Arsenal would play their normal fluent passing game on it? So are you saying it was pure coincidence then that we lose 3-0 against Ipswich and the snow had nothing to do with it???? its possible BUT,,,,,, unlucky my friend. We've performed badly away from home frequently of late without the added snow factor, I think you are making more of an excuse of it than it merits. No we are not Chelsea or Arsenal but if we were maybe we could have adapted better with the conditions. I think you are trying to say that the conditions thwarted our natural passing, attacking game (I think you're giving Sven more credit than he has earned at his early juncture) but I really don't buy that. A good team will always adapt to the conditions nonetheless.
ajthefox Posted 18 December 2010 Posted 18 December 2010 Heres a good point lads. Ipswich can play well on snow, Leicester cant, does it really matter in the scale of the amount of times this will happen!!!! Sven wont be training his players to play in snow as most games will not be a snow field, and most games will be called off. Just unlucky really. As Sven said, what can he tell his players???? you need to pull your head out of svens arse mate. Your first comment is a stupid simplification of what happened. Second, no-one trains to play in snow ffs, some are more suited to various conditions but to say that it is unlucky that our playing style doesn't suit snow is absolute rubbish. Sven is partially at fault for today, and denying that is ignorant. Both teams knew the conditions long before the match, and knew there was a strong possibilty of snow at the start of the week. To prepare as if there was going to be snow would not be wise, but Sven should've made it clear that we may have to adapt our playing style to a more physical nature. ever heard the saying "failing to prepare is preparing to fail"?? I love Sven and am fully behind him as the manager to take us beyond the championship but ultimately, we weren't up for it at all today, everything about the game reflects that. There was a heavy possibilty of snow and whether or not the match should have been called off is irrelevant. Two teams played at Portman road today, one was Roy Keane's well prepared and motivated team, the other was Sven's under prepared and unmotivated team. The Blame/credit does not lie solely with the 22 men on the pitch.
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