Ipswich Town away Post-Match Thread

[Wymsey]

We need to forget about play offs and from this performance, think more from getting away from relegation trouble. Tough times ahead

[scott_gunnell]

We've performed badly away from home frequently of late without the added snow factor, I think you are making more of an excuse of it than it merits. No we are not Chelsea or Arsenal but if we were maybe we could have adapted better with the conditions. I think you are trying to say that the conditions thwarted our natural passing, attacking game (I think you're giving Sven more credit than he has earned at his early juncture) but I really don't buy that. A good team will always adapt to the conditions nonetheless.

I agree totally, if what I read is true, the general feeling is that the away form is not up the standard by the lads where that make the away trips.

However, I really cant understand how you dont agree the natural passing game was affected. Leicester didnt adapt to the weather, but they wont need to for the next 24 matches they wont need to.

[Wymsey]

PS: I was in the home area as my Uncle is a massive Ipswich fan.

[Corky]

Things have improved in a big way, give Sven time and the away form will be sorted.

This game... dont be to hard on the away form in these conditions.

Things are improving generally, but the away form needs some serious work on it. 7 points from a possible 33 on the road, it's not good enough. Sousa and Sven have to share the responsibility for it I'm afraid.

[Salieri]

We need to forget about play offs and from this performance, think more from getting away from relegation trouble. Tough times ahead

Fuck off you reactionary muppet.

[Salieri]

I agree totally, if what I read is true, the general feeling is that the away form is not up the standard by the lads where that make the away trips.

However, I really cant understand how you dont agree the natural passing game was affected. Leicester didnt adapt to the weather, but they wont need to for the next 24 matches they wont need to.

Mr.Gunnell. We all appreciate your input, and understand you are a massive Sven fan and all that, but for once acknowledge that tonight, Sven and his team underperformed, full stop.

It's okay to criticise the 'messiah' y'know.

[scott_gunnell]

....the other was Sven's under prepared and unmotivated team.

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You did send a well put email in many ways then you ended with that. 20 major trophies and you think Sven has an under prepared and unmotivated team.

I take it back, the snow had nothing to do with the fact that we didnt see an attacking passing Sven style that won 5-1 last week

Good night mate

[Lineker's Left Foot]

I know footie is not played on paper, but looking at it, we WILL go on a run soon and get nearer to the playoffs - it has to click. However, saying we'll make the playoffs, we may not necessarily, but relegation WILL DEFINITELY NOT happen. Personally, Sven will be hear next year and of course the owners will and it's going to take a good run to get us into the playoffs BUT everybody is beating everybody at the minute and it is so tight - Ipswich were also going to end their barren run one day as well - really wasn't looking forward to this one !!

[ajthefox]

I agree totally, if what I read is true, the general feeling is that the away form is not up the standard by the lads where that make the away trips.

However, I really cant understand how you dont agree the natural passing game was affected. Leicester didnt adapt to the weather, but they wont need to for the next 24 matches they wont need to.

Are you a brick wall in disguise? You have 100%, completely and utterly missed the point. It's odd that someone follows a manager around and it shows that you are a bigger fan of Sven than football in general because you are talking rubbish.

Whether we have to play in snow again is neither here nor there and quite frankly the fact you suggested that that is an excuse for today is moronic. As I said in my previous post, everyone knew the weather forecast.

We didn't adapt during the game because, and please pay careful attention, we should have been aware that a passing game wouldn't work in the middle of the week.

Ipswich prepared for it, we didn't and it payed dividens for them and has again set us back after a phenomenal display against doncaster in the second half.

[The MayneFox]

the ref was...well he has a reputation for making poor decisions, espeically under pressure

however, we were second best, i shouted goal at the T.V when gally delivered that perfect cross for the "goal"

im p155ed off, it annoys me that the ref, clearly doesn't have the dogs bollocks, as shown in the past, ok Ipswich 3v0, i would off called it off like 20mins in the 1st half....i couldn't see the pitch,

the ref bottled it today, however i thought that the majority of our players, wanted to go home

[ajthefox]

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You did send a well put email in many ways then you ended with that. 20 major trophies and you think Sven has an under prepared and unmotivated team.

I take it back, the snow had nothing to do with the fact that we didnt see an attacking passing Sven style that won 5-1 last week

Good night mate

OH MY GOD YOU UTTER BAFFOON.

Just because Sven has 20 titles, doesn't mean every time his team goes out they are well prepared and motivated. That point is seriously one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. You are genuinely suggested that because someone is successful they don't have off days where they are shit. Good grief.

And that's not what I said, at all. The reason we lost is partly down to trying to pass, but my point was that we should have never tried passing because it was never going to work, hence why Sven was partially at fault.

I saw that 5-1 in person and clearly he was who masterminded it, but that has no relevance. Both the players and Sven are responsible for every damn result we get. How are you not gettng this?

[ibbosuk]

The Ipswich players managed it alright

I agree!!

You are all hiding behind the bad weather factor, the HARD TRUTH is we have lost the last 3 away games conceding 8 goals, it does not seem our "Loan" defence is all its cracked up to be!

Maybe they are fair weather players in more ways than one ?

Maybe thats why they carn't get a games with there parent clubs ?

I know you will all say you have to defend from the front and blah, blah, blah,

But getting turned over by Watford, Bristol City, and Ipswich tells me that we DON'T have the players with the mental and physical toughness to get out of this league.

Roll on the Jan transfer window....<_<

[wurmer]

What next - let's call it off if it rains - cos our players will be at greater risk of catching colds and some twat might slip down steps on the way home.

Don't be so stupid - there's a big difference between slipping cause your studs go into mud and slipping cause you studs either don't even reach the pitch due to snow or the ground is too frozen.

You've been around long enough to know that - surprised at your pithy comeback to be honest.

[Number 6]

you need to pull your head out of svens arse mate.

Your first comment is a stupid simplification of what happened.

Second, no-one trains to play in snow ffs, some are more suited to various conditions but to say that it is unlucky that our playing style doesn't suit snow is absolute rubbish.

Sven is partially at fault for today, and denying that is ignorant. Both teams knew the conditions long before the match, and knew there was a strong possibilty of snow at the start of the week.

To prepare as if there was going to be snow would not be wise, but Sven should've made it clear that we may have to adapt our playing style to a more physical nature.

ever heard the saying "failing to prepare is preparing to fail"??

I love Sven and am fully behind him as the manager to take us beyond the championship but ultimately, we weren't up for it at all today, everything about the game reflects that. There was a heavy possibilty of snow and whether or not the match should have been called off is irrelevant.

Two teams played at Portman road today, one was Roy Keane's well prepared and motivated team, the other was Sven's under prepared and unmotivated team.

The Blame/credit does not lie solely with the 22 men on the pitch.

The pitch at the start of play and the pitch 20 mins in were very different. Sven had the balls to change things early doors to be fair to him. Didn't work and it seems at the moment he hasn't been able to get us to be more strict and disciplined away from home. I certainly think under him it will come. I think he has January transfers in the back of his mind though. Hopefully we have a more regular starting 11 for the 2011 part of the season.

[Salieri]

I agree!!

You are all hiding behind the bad weather factor, the HARD TRUTH is we have lost the last 3 away games conceding 8 goals, it does not seem our "Loan" defence is all its cracked up to be!

Maybe they are fair weather players in more ways than one ?

Maybe thats why they carn't get a games with there parent clubs ?

I know you will all say you have to defend from the front and blah, blah, blah,

But getting turned over by Watford, Bristol City, and Ipswich tells me that we DON'T have the players with the mental and physical toughness to get out of this league.

Roll on the Jan transfer window....<_<

I think if you bothered to read through the thread, there's very few who are using that as an excuse. Most however (unlike you) are seeing it as a blip. nothing more.

[acooling08]

Lets be fair, if the game had of been stopped I'd feel so bad for Ipswich. We deserved nothing..

[somebum]

Have you learnt nothing from Sven's history as a head coach?

The man just cannot raise his 'troops' for a 'fight'. Home matches, OK, he's alright. Away games, under pressure, he cannot motivate the players at all. He has proven this time and time again. Remember Southgate's famous Ian Duncan Smith quote. And that was when Sven had a top class side! How will he be with this bunch of clowns down here?

Listen, Sven is here for the money and if he wins, its a bonus for him but I wish Blackbum or some other team will come in for him because he is a sub standard tactician and a terrible motivator. 3-0 loss or not, these words have been true since his Lazio days.

[Jimothy]

PS: I was in the home area as my Uncle is a massive Ipswich fan.

And this is relevant why?

[ajthefox]

The pitch at the start of play and the pitch 20 mins in were very different. Sven had the balls to change things early doors to be fair to him. Didn't work and it seems at the moment he hasn't been able to get us to be more strict and disciplined away from home. I certainly think under him it will come. I think he has January transfers in the back of his mind though. Hopefully we have a more regular starting 11 for the 2011 part of the season.

I wouldn't say very different but either way, even in the starting conditions the football we usually play was not likely to work, and it was clear that conditions would get worse as the game progressed.

I agree that bringing on Howard so early took balls but it should never have been needed and to be honest we were shit for the other 60 minutes too. This guy with a man crush seems to think Sven has never done anything wrong because he is a big success -hence said crush- but it's just not true. As you said, our away form under Sven is as bas as Sousa's and it can't all be attributed to the players. Today's conditions are being used as a scapegoat for Sven but it won't wash, he and our whole squad had a bad day at the office by acconts.

Sven needs to get consistency. Bringing in shitloads of loans and having a dreadful away record is not good enough to get us promotion.

[ibbosuk]

I think if you bothered to read through the thread, there's very few who are using that as an excuse. Most however (unlike you) are seeing it as a blip. nothing more.

L.....BLIP......L......BLIP.......L.........BLIP......L..........BLIP = TEAM NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR PLAY OFFS......:sge:

[Jackirius]

Nothing constructive is gonna come from this.

• We lacked heart from the start (even more so after the first goal)
  
• Tactics were wrong, Howard probably should have started and we needed to play a lot narrower
  
• It should have been postponed before KO
  
• Nothing went our way today and we were just poor all round
  

It's not sour grapes about the postponement, I posted before the match that the conditions looked ridiculous.

Pretty much this, was shocking, apart from Naughton no body really looked half arsed to play. Match should have been postponed before if not before we came out for the second half, the conditions were ridiculous. Ipswich support was shocking. Though it was a fairly good away day despite.

[The Doctor]

Have you learnt nothing from Sven's history as a head coach?

The man just cannot raise his 'troops' for a 'fight'. Home matches, OK, he's alright. Away games, under pressure, he cannot motivate the players at all. He has proven this time and time again. Remember Southgate's famous Ian Duncan Smith quote. And that was when Sven had a top class side! How will he be with this bunch of clowns down here?

Listen, Sven is here for the money and if he wins, its a bonus for him but I wish Blackbum or some other team will come in for him because he is a sub standard tactician and a terrible motivator. 3-0 loss or not, these words have been true since his Lazio days.

5-1 win in germany? High pressure game and the england players were very highly motivated, as seen by the fact they took germany apart.

Your desire to see sven gone suggests you haven't seen anything this season - we've improved dramtically since he took over, he's got the players respect and he's got us playing the way sousa wanted to, minus the apocalyptic defending.

edit: granted our away form isn't the best but at least we are making somewhat of a fight of it now (except today) - for instance the watford game, under sousa having gone 2-0 down we'd have crumbled at lost by 4 or 5, under sven we pulled it back to 2-2 and had chances to get something out of it.

[Salieri]

L.....BLIP......L......BLIP.......L.........BLIP......L..........BLIP = TEAM NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR PLAY OFFS......:sge:

Wow, that's quite a comeback.

I'm speechless.

You really are one of the clowns on here who only surface on the back of a dodgy result, constructive criticism is fine and justified but i don't think you possess the mental capacity for such.

Funny how there's no sign of you or your ilk on the back of a good result.

[Jackirius]

Anyone get involved in the snowball fight after?

[maddog]

We were really, really, poor tonight.

No energy, no liveliness, no urgency. Just pure laziness for me.

Ipswich showed a lot more willing and commitment tonight, snow or no snow we would have lost that game.

We need to produce the goods away from home, and stop giving away goals!