Blue Bob Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 There's a lot of football to be played yet. However we have a great squad who are playing with confidence and not many injuries. Currently we have momentum and that will worry other teams. Many of the top teams will need to play each other over the coming weeks and forest have to play 5 times in a couple of weeks Which won't do them any good!! It's all getting very interesting and I am confident we will be in the play offs as we only have 4 points to catch up, automatic is 6 and on current form that is doable too!!!
stockyfox Posted 14 February 2011 Author Posted 14 February 2011 We have 15 games left to play, 8 at home, 7 away as follows with current league position : HOME ------------------------------------- AWAY Bristol C (19) ------------------------------------------Cardiff (2) Coventry (14) ------------------------------------------QPR (1) Norwich (3) -----------------------------------------Scunny (23) Pompey (18) ----------------------------------------M'boro (20) Burnley (8) C. Palace (21) ---------------------------------------Reading (12) ---------------------------------------Forest (4) Watford (11) --------------------------------------Doncaster (16) Ipswich (15) HOWEVER the current top six are set to meet each other as follows Leeds v Norwich Forest v Cardiff Swansea v Leeds Swansea v Forest Leeds v Forest Swansea v Norwich Norwich v Forest CARDIFF v QPR QPR v Leeds Therefore both Cardiff and QPR would appear to have the least demanding run-in Norwich have 3 plus Leicester Forest have 4 (3 away) plus Leicester Swansea have 3 -all at home Leeds have 4 (2 at home, 2 away) So, correct me if I'm wrong, but if all the above finished as draws, that means that at least eighteen points are going to be culmatively dropped by the current top six.
Foxybeaver Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 Although I agree with us being a class above Barnsley that dosn't make us perimer league class, you are taking about Barnsley. Our players are brilliant individually but I can still see us making a few little mistakes at the back and not taking good chances which will properly cost us going foward
ajthefox Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 I can't wait to see the reaction when we come crashing down earth at some point in the near future. 16 points from our last 18 available is brilliant no doubts about that, but to say we're already playing like a middle-ish premier league team is taking this too far.
Joeb.lcfc Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 mid to upper prem? theres being optimistic and theres being delusional not that i would be upset by being there
Kitchandro Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 Every time i've watched QPR they've been average. I don't get how they're running away with this league. We're looking very good at the mo but we have to be at least that to make the top 6, given our horrific start. Cardiff are as good as us and that's who we'll face at some point in the PO's, if we even get there. Lets not get ahead of ourselves! QPR are difficult to beat. They have drawn quite a few games but have lost very few. They have a strong if unspectacular spine and a couple of quality players who make the difference in Taarabt and Routledge, plus strikers who can score goals. Also they've got a manager who demands that they battle and give everything. I think we are a better team than them now but they have been consistent all season. It's just sods law that we were so far behind. I think if we carry on like this we will make the play-offs but we have to take a leaf out of QPR's book and teams like them because we won't walk over every team, we will have to battle at some point. It's going to be tight but I believe we will make it, I have done since the end of November, but I won't relax until we are there because it is going to be close! PS I'd like to see what all those people who wrote us off in December have to say now.
Foxybeaver Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 You must remember that QPR are a typical Warnock style team, play dirty and dive about when you feel the slightest touch. That's how they get a large majority of their points by cheating Refs and Warnock moaning at everything. I realise I have a deep haterd of Warnock but I don't care.
Kitchandro Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 We are not a top half Premier League side yet but I see what Stocky's saying, because we are playing much better football than a lot of Prem sides. We have potential to be a successful Prem team and we are going the right way about it at the moment. Still a long way to go though.
CKB Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 QPR are doing well without being spectacular because that is the Colin willy puller effect.. He might be a shitstick but the guy has a habit in doing well for his teams without them being a joy to watch
B52 Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 A Ipswich Town FLC L 0-3 Awful against a poor side. H Leeds United FLC D 2-2 Poor apart from a 10 minute spell which only just preserved our home record under Sven A Millwall FLC L 0-2 Dire performance. A Hull City FLC W 1-0 Scrappy, but deserved win against 10 men H Swansea City FLC W 2-1 A good win against Play off rivals A Preston FLC D 1-1 Should have won convincingly against a relegation threatened team - didn't H Millwall FLC W 4-2 Could have been very different with the penalty and they had a man sent off A Sheffield Utd FLC W 1-0 Struggled to finish off a team in the relegation zone H Barnsley FLC W 4-1 Scored 4 cracking goals, but didnt play that convincingly against a decent Barnsely side A Derby County FLC W 2-0 We beat a very poor Derby team at a stroll Before we all start getting down on our knees and sucking their collective cocks, if you have a look at the stats for the last 10 games, W6 D2 L2 it's not bad, but hardly going to worry Manchester United, but if you look at who we've played, who we've lost to, and how we've played it is not as convincing as the original poster suggests. If you take away the Ipswich game wich we never turned up in and the poor defending in other games the picture looks a bit different. We have Bamba, Mee, Aanholt, Bruma and Ricardo at the back with the Yak in front. The four latest away games is three wins and a draw. 10 out of 12 points away. No moaning about our bad away record then..... One myth down. I call it a myth because Sven carried Sousas baggage in moaners views. At home we've managed to produce 10 goals in three matches. Second myth gone(can't score). Hey, why don't you give us the stats for the last seven games instead, 2011, wich shows 6 wins and a draw - 19 points of 21. Even that stat lie because we've strengthened the squad more and the players are bedding in more and more. The glass isn't half full anymore. It's flooding in this league.
B52 Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 Therefore both Cardiff and QPR would appear to have the least demanding run-in So, correct me if I'm wrong, but if all the above finished as draws, that means that at least eighteen points are going to be culmatively dropped by the current top six. Both Cardiff and QPR have us too. Swansea have the best set up. I got 48 points dropped if we win our games against them and the rest is draws. 39 points if there is no draws. 6.5 points dropped per team if we do our job. Hopefully one or two teams fold under pressure so they drop at least ten points. We have won a lot if we win against Cardiff, QPR, Norwich and Forest. Massive games ahead.
SystonFox Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 Did someone just say we can beat united? Pfft!
Christoph Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 Dont think were mid table but if we had this team in the prem, i think we'd settle better offf than atleast 5-6 teams. Providing we kept our players and got more
Finnegan Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 Mid to upper Prem Team!? Yet we're still playing Matt Oakley, Chris Weale, Paul Gallagher and Richie Wellens? I'm sorry - I'm well aware this won't be popular opinion but people really need to calm the fuck down. We are very, very much a work in progress and the vast majority of the quality in our squad is being borrowed from elsewhere. Threads like this are going to make us look enormously silly if we don't go up.
woznotwos Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_1/predictor/default.stm Would that have saved any time....?
Finnegan Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 PS I'd like to see what all those people who wrote us off in December have to say now. I don't feel in any way silly. What was said was that we'd need to produce Championship winning form between now and the end of the season to realistically finish within a very competitive top six. This at a time when we were throwing away points left, right and center and looking absolutely dreadful away from home. Who could have foreseen that we'd start 2011 as we have? Even you, the wildest of optimists, couldn't have seen this coming. We've been brilliant. I'd also like to remind you of the games we've got coming up and the fact we aren't actually in the play-offs. Don't misunderstand me, I hope desperately we go up - I'd love it. Nobody's said otherwise, nobody's "writing us off," people just recognize that it's a Herculean effort and we shouldn't be piling on ridiculous amounts of expectation.
Babylon Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 I'm sorry - I'm well aware this won't be popular opinion but people really need to calm the fuck down. We are very, very much a work in progress and the vast majority of the quality in our squad is being borrowed from elsewhere. Threads like this are going to make us look enormously silly if we don't go up.
artursteppe Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 A Ipswich Town FLC L 0-3 Awful against a poor side. H Leeds United FLC D 2-2 Poor apart from a 10 minute spell which only just preserved our home record under Sven A Millwall FLC L 0-2 Dire performance. A Hull City FLC W 1-0 Scrappy, but deserved win against 10 men H Swansea City FLC W 2-1 A good win against Play off rivals A Preston FLC D 1-1 Should have won convincingly against a relegation threatened team - didn't H Millwall FLC W 4-2 Could have been very different with the penalty and they had a man sent off A Sheffield Utd FLC W 1-0 Struggled to finish off a team in the relegation zone H Barnsley FLC W 4-1 Scored 4 cracking goals, but didnt play that convincingly against a decent Barnsely side A Derby County FLC W 2-0 We beat a very poor Derby team at a stroll Before we all start getting down on our knees and sucking their collective cocks, if you have a look at the stats for the last 10 games, W6 D2 L2 it's not bad, but hardly going to worry Manchester United, but if you look at who we've played, who we've lost to, and how we've played it is not as convincing as the original poster suggests. We still have a lot to do, and some tough games coming up. Don't get me wrong the way we are playing is good, and the results in 2011 fantastic, but lets not get ahead of ourselves, we are on the up but we are a long way off being a premiership side in more ways than one, it wasn't that long ago we couldn't beat Preston, and were losing to Millwall, Ipswich and Watford. I mean no offence, and you have my total sympathy if the following is true, but are you on pills for depression or something? I know it's only conjecture, but it is entirely feasible - check the tables if we win our next two matches - maybe even you could cheer up a bit.
artursteppe Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 Thing is since jan our team has got better with acquisitions like bamba, yak, mee and PVA. They have been the reason we have stayed unbeaten, we do look good now and i have every confidence we can get into play offs. Thing is we are still 4 points off which doesnt seem alot but remember it means we have to get five points more then those teams to guarantee play offs which is a tough.ask Two matches ago we had to get 6 points more than those above us, three or four games ago it was 8 points - now it is four points in 15 matches. Hello - cheer up a bit and enjoy. Football support should be at it's best an enjoyable experience, why do have have so many depressed fans who are trying to depress the rest of us? It's quite bizarre.
surrifox Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 There appears to be a growing certainty in some quarters that promotion is nailed on but to even make the playoffs we still need to make up points on the teams above which relies on them losing while we keep winning - sounds obvious but we dont look impregnable at times and I still feel we have the potential to drop points against teams we should be seeing off and as the relegation trapdoor opens these sides will be desparate not to lose.Also games against promotion rivals become the cliched 6 pointers. meanwhile as Saturday showed, the likes of Norwich and Swansea keep pulling results out of the hat. I think we are almost certain to see at least one of the current top 6 run out of steam and i suspect that will be Norwich who are at best an ordinary outfit and with a thin squad will inevitably suffer injuries and suspensions (ditto swansea to a lesser extent) The next consideration is the play offs themselves and generally the sides that do best are those that arrive with some momentum (which is why teams like Blackpool and Hull did well in recent years and sides like Preston who spent pretty much all season occupying play off positions for a couple of seasons get so easily brushed aside in sudden death stuff) . We have a hungry and talented squad that will get better the longer they play together the question is surely is there another side that will mount an impressive challenge Reading? Hull? Millwall? Lets hope not
Captain... Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 I mean no offence, and you have my total sympathy if the following is true, but are you on pills for depression or something? I know it's only conjecture, but it is entirely feasible - check the tables if we win our next two matches - maybe even you could cheer up a bit. Nope, I've just been a Leicester fan far too long to know that we are just an injury, or bad run of form away from this season being a write off. Do you disagree with my summary of the last 10 games, look beyond the results, struggled against relegation fodder Shef Utd, couldn't beat relegation fodder PNE, the score line flattered us against Barnsely, and the game against Millwall could have been a disaster if we had conceded that early penalty, that penalty aside we let them back into it and were under some real pressure until they had a man sent off. We beat a really shit Derby 2-0. I am ecstatic with the results, and we are looking like we can mount a good challenge on the play offs, but there is a very small margin for error, and some big games coming up. Saying we are playing like a premiership team and we should be in the prem is just ridiculous at this stage. Give it until after the Norwich game, when we will have played, Cardiff (A), QPR (A), and Norwich (H). Then we will see how good we are. Even if we do win those games, even if we do reach the play offs, we then have to win it, and that is not going to be an easy task. It is not referred to as a lottery for nothing.
Raj Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 WOW! If we lose 2 games in row we'll be calling for Svens head! Chill out and enjoy the ride baby!!!
artursteppe Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 Nope, I've just been a Leicester fan far too long to know that we are just an injury, or bad run of form away from this season being a write off. Do you disagree with my summary of the last 10 games, look beyond the results, struggled against relegation fodder Shef Utd, couldn't beat relegation fodder PNE, the score line flattered us against Barnsely, and the game against Millwall could have been a disaster if we had conceded that early penalty, that penalty aside we let them back into it and were under some real pressure until they had a man sent off. We beat a really shit Derby 2-0. I am ecstatic with the results, and we are looking like we can mount a good challenge on the play offs, but there is a very small margin for error, and some big games coming up. Saying we are playing like a premiership team and we should be in the prem is just ridiculous at this stage. Give it until after the Norwich game, when we will have played, Cardiff (A), QPR (A), and Norwich (H). Then we will see how good we are. Even if we do win those games, even if we do reach the play offs, we then have to win it, and that is not going to be an easy task. It is not referred to as a lottery for nothing. Dude, if you did the same analysis on the other teams, ie those above us then you could only conclude that they have not been playing well and have all been lucky in a number of matches and only just scraped through with late goals. The bubble could burst for any number of the teams above us and we are still getting better and better Most of the others are scraping through or clinging to points - they are all under more pressure than us - their players are feeling it - ours are smiling. You could smile as well if you wanted.
davieG Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 Dude, if you did the same analysis on the other teams, ie those above us then you could only conclude that they have not been playing well and have all been lucky in a number of matches and only just scraped through with late goals. The bubble could burst for any number of the teams above us and we are still getting better and better Most of the others are scraping through or clinging to points - they are all under more pressure than us - their players are feeling it - ours are smiling. You could smile as well if you wanted. Other teams being the same quality as us and having the same luck doesn't make us a mid PL team
Captain... Posted 14 February 2011 Posted 14 February 2011 Dude, if you did the same analysis on the other teams, ie those above us then you could only conclude that they have not been playing well and have all been lucky in a number of matches and only just scraped through with late goals. The bubble could burst for any number of the teams above us and we are still getting better and better Most of the others are scraping through or clinging to points - they are all under more pressure than us - their players are feeling it - ours are smiling. You could smile as well if you wanted. I am not denying that, and I have said repeatedly that we are in a great position, better than could be expected after the start of the season, and we look a good bet for the play offs, but I am not going to start agreeing with such ridiculous statements as we are now as good as Sunderland, Bolton, Fulham etc For all those over optimists out there I bring you a reminder of the perils of footballing optimism:
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