Haydos Posted 23 February 2011 Posted 23 February 2011 3 games played. Goals conceded that were his fault 0 = His fault we lost. Gotta love Leicester fans and their hated of anything different. Getting a little wound up?
marbelladave Posted 23 February 2011 Posted 23 February 2011 3 games played. Goals conceded that were his fault 0 = His fault we lost. Gotta love Leicester fans and their hated of anything different. Weale has absolutely no presence in goal at all. He can't stop shots from range he doesn't command the box He doesn't communicate with his defence. Will people please stop this pathetic love in with a very average goalie. In general you're the same ones that didn't want Berner, Fryatt, Hobbs, Morrison, Kisnorbo or Hume dropped. Time changes and teamns evolve, about time you tried it. Spot on, both of you...... Ricardo still has to adapt to Championship football and last night was tough at times but what he brings to the game is, overall, better than what Weale brings. As for the fans chanting for Weale, how embarrasing.....
Langston Posted 23 February 2011 Posted 23 February 2011 Time changes and teamns evolve, about time you tried it. Is evolution always necessarily for the better though? I'm not Weale's biggest fan, by any means, but this guy looks to be a completely different level of incompetent so far. Morrison, Hobbs, Berner etc, we're all dropped, yes, but all their replacements completely justified Sven's decision to bench them. I can't see the benefit in playing this guy at the minute. He may turn out to be a diamond, but now is not the time to be chopping and changing, it's such a crucial period for us, we can't afford to give away points to allow Ricardo to 'gel' with his defence. You criticise Weale, but there's no denying he looked to be hitting some form at just the right time for the run-in. New 'keeper must be Sven's priority in the summer.
luckyalex13 Posted 23 February 2011 Posted 23 February 2011 New 'keeper must be Sven's priority in the summer. YES
hackneyfox Posted 23 February 2011 Posted 23 February 2011 Is evolution always necessarily for the better though? we can't afford to give away points to allow Ricardo to 'gel' with his defence. I haven't noticed that we've given away a goal, let alone a point, due to Ricardo gelling with the defence.
ibbosuk Posted 23 February 2011 Posted 23 February 2011 Could have saved both goals tonight. Was so slow to react to the shots. Mr Flappy is piss poor, Leicester City deserve what they get playing him.
Langston Posted 23 February 2011 Posted 23 February 2011 I haven't noticed that we've given away a goal, let alone a point, due to Ricardo gelling with the defence. Marvin Elliott's header? He's a complete liability when it comes to communication, and he's very, very lucky none of his mistakes have been capitalised on. I find myself watching through my fingers sometimes. If you're honestly saying that this guy has proved to be more re-assuring than Weale was pre-benching, then God help you.
Simmo86 Posted 23 February 2011 Posted 23 February 2011 Is evolution always necessarily for the better though? I'm not Weale's biggest fan, by any means, but this guy looks to be a completely different level of incompetent so far. Morrison, Hobbs, Berner etc, we're all dropped, yes, but all their replacements completely justified Sven's decision to bench them. I can't see the benefit in playing this guy at the minute. He may turn out to be a diamond, but now is not the time to be chopping and changing, it's such a crucial period for us, we can't afford to give away points to allow Ricardo to 'gel' with his defence. You criticise Weale, but there's no denying he looked to be hitting some form at just the right time for the run-in. New 'keeper must be Sven's priority in the summer. Where are you getting this from??? Because he dropped a cross against Bristol City! 3 goals conceded, 0 his fault. Him and Weale both have the own strengths and weaknesses, Ricardo just shades it for me. Weales has bottle issues. If your gonna have a moan, moan about the state of the defence and midfield last night.
davieG Posted 23 February 2011 Posted 23 February 2011 Marvin Elliott's header? He's a complete liability when it comes to communication, and he's very, very lucky none of his mistakes have been capitalised on. I find myself watching through my fingers sometimes. If you're honestly saying that this guy has proved to be more re-assuring than Weale was pre-benching, then God help you. That was Aanholt standing in front of him and heading it into his own goal.
Bugg Posted 23 February 2011 Posted 23 February 2011 Marvin Elliott's header? He's a complete liability when it comes to communication, and he's very, very lucky none of his mistakes have been capitalised on. I find myself watching through my fingers sometimes. If you're honestly saying that this guy has proved to be more re-assuring than Weale was pre-benching, then God help you. Van Aanholt decided to head the ball when Ricardo would have saved it.
MC Prussian Posted 23 February 2011 Posted 23 February 2011 Oh God, we've lost our first league game this year and the Panic Bunch are out in force again! WE'RE DOOMED!!
Langston Posted 23 February 2011 Posted 23 February 2011 Where are you getting this from??? Because he dropped a cross against Bristol City! 3 goals conceded, 0 his fault. Him and Weale both have the own strengths and weaknesses, Ricardo just shades it for me. Weales has bottle issues. If your gonna have a moan, moan about the state of the defence and midfield last night. Why would I moan about the midfield in a thread about Ricardo? Funny logic. It's his inability to catch, and when he does punch it's hardly with conviction, is long kicking is woefully inept, as is the commanding of his area. I do admire how he tries to build from the back, but, for me, the negatives outweigh the positives quite convincingly.
Wymsey Posted 23 February 2011 Posted 23 February 2011 Marvin Elliott's header? If Van Annholt wasn't in front of Ricardo, (His view was blocked until Van Aanholt touched it) then Ricardo would've saved it.
Guest bennytwohats Posted 23 February 2011 Posted 23 February 2011 Marvin Elliott's header? He's a complete liability when it comes to communication, and he's very, very lucky none of his mistakes have been capitalised on. I find myself watching through my fingers sometimes. If you're honestly saying that this guy has proved to be more re-assuring than Weale was pre-benching, then God help you. Go back a couple of weeks and everyone was moaning about what a piss poor debut Mee had (which he did). Sven isn't an idiot and sees these guys playing every day in training, he obviously isn't happy with Weale and i doubt he would have brought Ricardo in if he didn't think he had qualities that Weale doesn't. To be honest i've never understood the Weale love in either, he has been on a good little run of form lately but he is prone to enough howlers himself and his distribution is shit to say the least. It might take a little while for him to be at his best but at the end of the day he isn't choosing himself to play, and the person that is is a million times more qualified and more experienced than any of us here (and also doesn't seem like the kind of guy to do thigns without good reason). So how about we just get behind the 11 players on the pitch. Not directly aiming this at you but the people chanting Weale's name while Ricardo is on the pitch are, quite frankly, a complete embarrasment - what do you think that will be doing for confidence and morale? Besides all that the OPs point is complete bollocks since the goals were down to the defence last night, people are itching to make a scapegoat out of him. In much the same way i imagine we'll get plenty more threads about the Yak's workrate when results don't go our way. It's ****ing moronic.
davieG Posted 23 February 2011 Posted 23 February 2011 Chanting for Weale is the equivalent of chanting for Sousa to come back and replace Sven, It's Sven that picks the team so if you think Weale should be playing instead of Ricardo then you should be singing to Sven you don't know what you're doing.
cc_star Posted 23 February 2011 Posted 23 February 2011 Chanting for Weale is the equivalent of chanting for Sousa to come back and replace Sven, It's Sven that picks the team so if you think Weale should be playing instead of Ricardo then you should be singing to Sven you don't know what you're doing. Except it isn't. I would never chant or even support another player over someone on the pitch. chanting for Weale is wrong, applauding him or whatever if he runs down the touchline for a warmup (which Keepers rarely do) is different but chanting his name over Ricardo is wrong. Sousa was inept and not up to the job, Sven is an infinitely better replacement - Therefore there is no comparison between those two to the Weale/Ricardo situation. Given enough time I'm sure Weale can be easily improved on, as he is far from great - He was however benched at the peak of his form which was odd, but understandable if the replacement was obviously better suited like Mee over Hobbs. Judging by the overwhelming majority of opinion Ricardo is far from an obviously better keeper, in fact many of his traits that we've seen glimpses of since half-time at Derby point to some big concerns over his ability and decision manking, which could cost us, but so far haven't. I just wonder how many more poor punching/coming halfway decisions he's going to make before it affects the defenders confidence. In Ricardo's strengths column I'd add short-range distribution, in his weakness' column I'd everything else For Weale I think he's weak at long range shot-stopping, but adequate in other aspects of his game Neither take ownership of the box, like we often need a keeper to. So to sum up, chanting Weale's name whilst Ricardo needs our support is wrong, but wondering why Ricardo's in the team before & after games is fine by me. I don't see why that has to mean anyone likes Sven any less, I certainly don't.
davieG Posted 23 February 2011 Posted 23 February 2011 Except it isn't. I would never chant or even support another player over someone on the pitch. chanting for Weale is wrong, applauding him or whatever if he runs down the touchline for a warmup (which Keepers rarely do) is different but chanting his name over Ricardo is wrong. Sousa was inept and not up to the job, Sven is an infinitely better replacement - Therefore there is no comparison between those two to the Weale/Ricardo situation. Given enough time I'm sure Weale can be easily improved on, as he is far from great - He was however benched at the peak of his form which was odd, but understandable if the replacement was obviously better suited like Mee over Hobbs. Judging by the overwhelming majority of opinion Ricardo is far from an obviously better keeper, in fact many of his traits that we've seen glimpses of since half-time at Derby point to some big concerns over his ability and decision manking, which could cost us, but so far haven't. I just wonder how many more poor punching/coming halfway decisions he's going to make before it affects the defenders confidence. In Ricardo's strengths column I'd add short-range distribution, in his weakness' column I'd everything else For Weale I think he's weak at long range shot-stopping, but adequate in other aspects of his game Neither take ownership of the box, like we often need a keeper to. So to sum up, chanting Weale's name whilst Ricardo needs our support is wrong, but wondering why Ricardo's in the team before & after games is fine by me. I don't see why that has to mean anyone likes Sven any less, I certainly don't. Many have used words to describe Ricardo as inept so the comparison is valid, as I said if those majority think Ricardo is not the better keeper they are questioning Svens choice therefore they are saying Sven has got it wrong. You may not chant Weale's name whilst Ricardo is on the pitch but plenty do and it was them I was referring to. We've all criticised manger's choices in post match discussions and I think that is valid but doing it for Weale during a game is totally different. It may not be true of you but far from proving my statement as being 'it isn't' you've actually given reasons why it is.
anotherharboroughfox Posted 23 February 2011 Posted 23 February 2011 Oh God, we've lost our first league game this year and the Panic Bunch are out in force again! WE'RE DOOMED!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USHHQRodF88&feature=related tried to find one from Fraiser off of Dad's army but this will do.
stix Posted 23 February 2011 Posted 23 February 2011 Weale has absolutely no presence in goal at all. He can't stop shots from range he doesn't command the box He doesn't communicate with his defence. Will people please stop this pathetic love in with a very average goalie. In general you're the same ones that didn't want Berner, Fryatt, Hobbs, Morrison, Kisnorbo or Hume dropped. Time changes and teamns evolve, about time you tried it. This a million times!
Larry_LCFC Posted 23 February 2011 Posted 23 February 2011 Jesus why is it when you express an opinion of a player etc on this forum you get ripped to shreds with people bitching. Respect other peoples opinions ffs ... we're all entitled to one
stix Posted 23 February 2011 Posted 23 February 2011 Jesus why is it when you express an opinion of a player etc on this forum you get ripped to shreds with people bitching. Respect other peoples opinions ffs ... we're all entitled to one Slating a player without justifying valid reasons doesnt constitute an opinion in my book. People blaming Ricardo for any of the 3 goals is completely unjustified IN MY OPINION. He was obstructed by his own defender for the brizzle goal, and the two goals lastnight were scored through major defensive errors. The 'punch' incident was risky and maybe didnt come off THAT time but on another day could of put the ball complety out of danger(they didnt score from it anyway) He comunicates far better than Weale ever has when ive watched him and i for one still feel more comfortable with Ricardo between the sticks.
southdevonfox Posted 23 February 2011 Posted 23 February 2011 Jesus why is it when you express an opinion of a player etc on this forum you get ripped to shreds with people bitching. Respect other peoples opinions ffs ... we're all entitled to one well said larry , u gotta ask youself why does he punch when he can catch , and as for someone saying he needs to adapt to the championship , what a joke , i dont blame him for the goals because i feel the defenders let him down , its saying something when stringer could not pick a man of the match , lets face it the players we expect to shine "didnt "
The Doctor Posted 23 February 2011 Posted 23 February 2011 well said larry , u gotta ask youself why does he punch when he can catch , and as for someone saying he needs to adapt to the championship , what a joke , i dont blame him for the goals because i feel the defenders let him down , its saying something when stringer could not pick a man of the match , lets face it the players we expect to shine "didnt " lot of continental keepers do it, basically preference but logic behind it - if you go to catch a cross in a crowded penalty box you are going to collide with someone, if you do so while catching the ball you may spill it, giving an attacker a tap in.
davieG Posted 23 February 2011 Posted 23 February 2011 Jesus why is it when you express an opinion of a player etc on this forum you get ripped to shreds with people bitching. Respect other peoples opinions ffs ... we're all entitled to one If you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen, if you express an opinion on an open forum then you are inviting a response if you don't like people disagreeing with you then keep quiet.
Larry_LCFC Posted 23 February 2011 Posted 23 February 2011 If you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen, if you express an opinion on an open forum then you are inviting a response if you don't like people disagreeing with you then keep quiet. Dont think I said people shouldnt express counter opinions did I? I said there is no need for personal bitching as you just demonstrated. Big difference.
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