dannythefox Posted 27 February 2011 Posted 27 February 2011 Was about to make the same comment ! I didn't have the best angle,but he seemed to be stuck in quicksand.He looks very small for a 'keeper,doesn't command his area,and i hold my breath at crosses & corners.However,i'm not a member of the 'WEALE,WEALE!' brigade when Ricardo fumbles,as this not helping.IMO Weale should be in goal from now on. Like i've said i would never shout for someone whos not on the pitch i think it stinks hes only going to make more mistakes! i'am the same as you i shit myself every time hes going for the ball he also missed king when he came out!
ibbosuk Posted 27 February 2011 Posted 27 February 2011 Like i've said i would never shout for someone whos not on the pitch i think it stinks hes only going to make more mistakes! i'am the same as you i shit myself every time hes going for the ball he also missed king when he came out! Fvck off .......Mr Flappy is the worst keeper since Kalac. (THANK YOU................I THANK YOU..........EYYYYOOO...........TICKETS PLEASE)
dannythefox Posted 27 February 2011 Posted 27 February 2011 Fvck off .......Mr Flappy is the worst keeper since Kalac. (THANK YOU................I THANK YOU..........EYYYYOOO...........TICKETS PLEASE) dont be a Fvcking arse!
STEVIE B Posted 27 February 2011 Posted 27 February 2011 Maybe he was a good 'keeper,maybe he has 70 caps for Portugal.But was he really tested playing for his country,as they were a bloody good side.Take a team like Brazil,hardly known as a hotbed for 'keepers are they !? Some of the great sides may as well have put Julian Clarey in goal,as the ball wouldn't have gone near him.Unfortunately City don't have that luxury.
Sylvie85 Posted 27 February 2011 Posted 27 February 2011 He concerns me, his decision making seems to be poor (I'm not sure if that's because he thinks he's younger than he is.) If he is sooo good still then he wouldn't have been a free agent for so long and I think I'm right in saying before being given the shirt at city he had only made 4 appearances in 2 years. Everytime the ball is near him I get concerned, I always fancy him to make a mistake. Having said all this I think he looked vulnerable for periods yesterday due to the hole's in our defence. Some of the positioning was extremely questionable but I suppose that happens when you put new players in. I would certainly prefer to see weale in goal but we all know when sven was england boss he got heavily criticised for choosing players who were living on their past reputations, I feel this is what's happening with Ricardo. Maybe a few years ago he was still really good quality but in my opinion the lad is going to become a liability at the most important part of the season.
Petchy Posted 27 February 2011 Posted 27 February 2011 He was only a free agent for a month as he was let go in January... I've always been a fan of Ricardo as I've felt he's put in solid performances when I've seen him for Portugal - especially with his reflex saves. Unfortunately, so far it's not going to plan at Leicester but I don't know why. He's known to be an eccentric goalkeeper, but even so, he seems to making poor decisions at the minute. His specialty of 'reflex saving' also seems to have gone temporarily missing as we saw yesterday. A shot like that would never have beaten him normally... so no idea what happened there. Also, I'm unsure as to why his communication isn't that great at the minute. Seeing as he used to be captain for his old club, and was always vocal for Portugal, I think everyone was expecting him to be loud unlike Weale. Yet again that's not come to fruition yet but maybe that'll come with time if we get a 'consistent' defence and stop chopping and changing it. I think that the easy option for Sven would be just to change back to Weale, but I think it may be worth sticking with Ricardo for a few more games as maybe he'll become more confident. I think Ricardo's performances play off confidence as that's apart of his game, cheekily chipping it over an oncoming strikers head etc, as at the minute he seems to be a shadow of his former self as if he's trying too hard and over thinking everything?
Bluefoxtim Posted 27 February 2011 Posted 27 February 2011 Surely Bamba's miss far outweighed any mistake that Ricardo made - similarly Dyer's effort and the number that the Yak had. Ricardo and Weale both have their strengths and weaknesses. Weale takes an age to distribute the ball, Ricardo is ALWAYS lively and looking for the quick pass (when this goes wrong I think most of it is down to the players not up to speed with him) Weale looks very vulnerable from long shots and freekicks - positioning seems to be way off the mark. I STILL haven't seen Ricardo forced into a save yet and also, people moaning at him when he came out to King yesterday. Number one, he could have easily brought him down and given away a penalty, and two, King missed! Those chanting for Weale during the match and sarcastically cheering every time Ricardo has the ball are just an embarrassment. Around me, those at the back of SK3 seem to be the main contingent - the same group who moan at the other supporters for not 'supporting' the team when we're losing.
davieG Posted 27 February 2011 Posted 27 February 2011 Surely Bamba's miss far outweighed any mistake that Ricardo made - similarly Dyer's effort and the number that the Yak had. Ricardo and Weale both have their strengths and weaknesses. Weale takes an age to distribute the ball, Ricardo is ALWAYS lively and looking for the quick pass (when this goes wrong I think most of it is down to the players not up to speed with him) Weale looks very vulnerable from long shots and freekicks - positioning seems to be way off the mark. I STILL haven't seen Ricardo forced into a save yet and also, people moaning at him when he came out to King yesterday. Number one, he could have easily brought him down and given away a penalty, and two, King missed! Those chanting for Weale during the match and sarcastically cheering every time Ricardo has the ball are just an embarrassment. Around me, those at the back of SK3 seem to be the main contingent - the same group who moan at the other supporters for not 'supporting' the team when we're losing. The same group that started a fight with a fan for not standing up during 'stand up if you love Leicester' and then 5 minutes later were all booing the team, then 5 minutes later after we scored were singing 'loyal supporters'.
Petchy Posted 27 February 2011 Posted 27 February 2011 Surely Bamba's miss far outweighed any mistake that Ricardo made - similarly Dyer's effort and the number that the Yak had. Ricardo and Weale both have their strengths and weaknesses. Weale takes an age to distribute the ball, Ricardo is ALWAYS lively and looking for the quick pass (when this goes wrong I think most of it is down to the players not up to speed with him) Weale looks very vulnerable from long shots and freekicks - positioning seems to be way off the mark. I STILL haven't seen Ricardo forced into a save yet and also, people moaning at him when he came out to King yesterday. Number one, he could have easily brought him down and given away a penalty, and two, King missed! Those chanting for Weale during the match and sarcastically cheering every time Ricardo has the ball are just an embarrassment. Around me, those at the back of SK3 seem to be the main contingent - the same group who moan at the other supporters for not 'supporting' the team when we're losing. That pisses me off, Anyone who is a 'fan' shouldn't even contemplate chanting or taking the piss out of any player. With regards to Ricardo, like I've said before it's probably a confidence thing. So what does chanting 'WEALLLEEEEEEE' do to help our current goalkeepers condidence?! Oh, and I think they should ask themselves where were the 'LOGANNNNNN' chants when Weale played like shite for a lengthy period at the start of the season?
ian_marshall Posted 27 February 2011 Posted 27 February 2011 I'm not bothered who's in goal so long as we win games. Personally, I think it's too early to judge Ricardo as all of the goals he's conceded so far most keepers would struggle to save. Even King's goal yesterday although not the best attempt at saving the ball you'd have to favour the striker every time from 5 yards out slap bang in the middle of the goal unchallenged. Given the situation I think most would expect a non league striker to bury that chance even if they were up against Reina, Cech, Casillas, etc. The blame for yesterday's goal should lie solely at the feet of Van Aarnholt. He had the ball in a very promising position in attack and dithered for too long, then when Coventry countered he got absolutely skinned trying to recover giving King a very easy opportunity. Van Aarnholt for me is currently our weak link as he likes to push forward but unlike Naughton doesn't work hard enough to track back. Furthermore, linking up with Gallagher doesn't help him either as Gally rarely drops back, and even when he does the guy has no idea how to defend and is afraid to put his foot in. We desperately miss Cunningham, but I don't think Berner is the answer. Let's hope the young man improves with game time and coaching.
Thracian Posted 27 February 2011 Posted 27 February 2011 Apart from his close distribution I can think of no reason why Ricardo would be preferred to Weale. I wonder if Sven gets commission for his signings/transfer income. As for past comments about how brilliant Sven's signings are and how they'd trust him ahead of God Almighty I think they should take the dark glasses off. Yakubu for King (+ or -) don't be silly. King has a whole lot of improving still to do but he's got 10 years of active service ahead of him all being well, and "active" is not a word I'd readily associate with Yakubu for all his undoubted ability. Seems to me we no longer close down high up the pitch but trust ourselves to gain possession and then try to hit the opposition on the break while lacking sufficient quick players t do it very effectively. PVA, of course was meant to take us forward with pace going forward from full-back but looks a complete liability to me and is possibly the greatest single reason we've started dropping points rather than Ricardo. I don't know if a good coach could make a player of him but it won't happen overnight. Of course, the downside is that poor Berner will have lost his edge and it would hardly be surprising if he'd lost his modtivation. More commission for PVA? Or does Sven seriously believe PVA is the better player. Cos I don't and that's despite not being the biggest fan of Berner.
Narborough_fox Posted 27 February 2011 Posted 27 February 2011 I thought Ricardo was pretty good yesterday. That was until I saw the goal. There's no doubt, given his excellence from close rage, that Weale would have saved that. But Ian Stringer (who I think's ok) summed up everything that's wrong with the Ricardo-bashing last night. Somebody phoned up to say that they thought Ricardo was good before Stringer said: "But imagine if it's the 90th minute of the play-off final against Forest and a high cross comes in. Who would you rather have in goal, Weale or Ricardo?". For me, that misses the point entirely. If Lewis McGugan was lining up a 30 yard free kick in the last minute would you want Weale in goal? They're both Championship goalkeepers. Both of them are going to have their strengths and weaknesses. I completely understand why people would want Weale in, but Ricardo wasn't too bad yesterday and yelling "Weale" is moronic and won't help anybody. Very good point indeed, may I add if it was like last season and there was a penalty shoot-out in the semi-final/ final who would you rather have in goal, Weale or Ricardo?
Bettsj2 Posted 27 February 2011 Posted 27 February 2011 I'm not bothered who's in goal so long as we win games. Personally, I think it's too early to judge Ricardo as all of the goals he's conceded so far most keepers would struggle to save. Even King's goal yesterday although not the best attempt at saving the ball you'd have to favour the striker every time from 5 yards out slap bang in the middle of the goal unchallenged. Given the situation I think most would expect a non league striker to bury that chance even if they were up against Reina, Cech, Casillas, etc. The blame for yesterday's goal should lie solely at the feet of Van Aarnholt. He had the ball in a very promising position in attack and dithered for too long, then when Coventry countered he got absolutely skinned trying to recover giving King a very easy opportunity. Van Aarnholt for me is currently our weak link as he likes to push forward but unlike Naughton doesn't work hard enough to track back. Furthermore, linking up with Gallagher doesn't help him either as Gally rarely drops back, and even when he does the guy has no idea how to defend and is afraid to put his foot in. We desperately miss Cunningham, but I don't think Berner is the answer. Let's hope the young man improves with game time and coaching. It's never too early to judge a player if you're a Leicester 'fan'. Ben Mee had only played 5 minutes and he was getting boo'd!!!!! To be fair, we've done exceptionally well to get into this position (7th and 2 points off 6th) but did anyone really expect us to go the rest of the season in the form that we were in? We are a good team at the minute but our problem is when players are getting tired (the midfield 3 especially), we dont really have the backup to fill in. Oakley for Abe is a prime example. I mean people say that Oakley played well at Derby, but I've watched the game back twice and he was actually pretty dodgy. Dwelt on the ball, gave it away, missed tackles, basically a typical Oakley performance. And that's about it for the midfield, we dont actually have anyone else. Then when it comes to the attack, i'm not sure why anyone thinks Yakubu should be haring round the pitch closing people down. He's never done that before in his career so why would he start now? Gallagher and Vassell are pure quality but if they're out, are we really thinking that Waggy is gonna be the consistant answer? He says himself that he isnt of the quality of the rest of the front 3. The only area we're pretty strong in is the defence. But sooner or later a suspension or injury will happen and then they'll be pushed to the limit. Patience is a virture and unfortunately not one that City 'fans' possess. I dont think it's gonna happen this year for us as there was just too much ground to make up for us to force a play off place. Next year though I can see us winning it.
STEVIE B Posted 27 February 2011 Posted 27 February 2011 It's never too early to judge a player if you're a Leicester 'fan'. Ben Mee had only played 5 minutes and he was getting boo'd!!!!! To be fair, we've done exceptionally well to get into this position (7th and 2 points off 6th) but did anyone really expect us to go the rest of the season in the form that we were in? We are a good team at the minute but our problem is when players are getting tired (the midfield 3 especially), we dont really have the backup to fill in. Oakley for Abe is a prime example. I mean people say that Oakley played well at Derby, but I've watched the game back twice and he was actually pretty dodgy. Dwelt on the ball, gave it away, missed tackles, basically a typical Oakley performance. And that's about it for the midfield, we dont actually have anyone else. Then when it comes to the attack, i'm not sure why anyone thinks Yakubu should be haring round the pitch closing people down. He's never done that before in his career so why would he start now? Gallagher and Vassell are pure quality but if they're out, are we really thinking that Waggy is gonna be the consistant answer? He says himself that he isnt of the quality of the rest of the front 3. The only area we're pretty strong in is the defence. But sooner or later a suspension or injury will happen and then they'll be pushed to the limit. Patience is a virture and unfortunately not one that City 'fans' possess. I dont think it's gonna happen this year for us as there was just too much ground to make up for us to force a play off place. Next year though I can see us winning it. That's a great post ! At least we have followers not believing all the hype,and with feet firmly on the ground.
Haydos Posted 27 February 2011 Posted 27 February 2011 It's never too early to judge a player if you're a Leicester 'fan'. Ben Mee had only played 5 minutes and he was getting boo'd!!!!! To be fair, we've done exceptionally well to get into this position (7th and 2 points off 6th) but did anyone really expect us to go the rest of the season in the form that we were in? We are a good team at the minute but our problem is when players are getting tired (the midfield 3 especially), we dont really have the backup to fill in. Oakley for Abe is a prime example. I mean people say that Oakley played well at Derby, but I've watched the game back twice and he was actually pretty dodgy. Dwelt on the ball, gave it away, missed tackles, basically a typical Oakley performance. And that's about it for the midfield, we dont actually have anyone else. Then when it comes to the attack, i'm not sure why anyone thinks Yakubu should be haring round the pitch closing people down. He's never done that before in his career so why would he start now? Gallagher and Vassell are pure quality but if they're out, are we really thinking that Waggy is gonna be the consistant answer? He says himself that he isnt of the quality of the rest of the front 3. The only area we're pretty strong in is the defence. But sooner or later a suspension or injury will happen and then they'll be pushed to the limit. Patience is a virture and unfortunately not one that City 'fans' possess. I dont think it's gonna happen this year for us as there was just too much ground to make up for us to force a play off place. Next year though I can see us winning it. Funny isn't it how they've been at fault for 3 sloppy goals in the last 2 games.
Leicester_Loyal Posted 27 February 2011 Posted 27 February 2011 Maybe he was a good 'keeper,maybe he has 70 caps for Portugal.But was he really tested playing for his country,as they were a bloody good side.Take a team like Brazil,hardly known as a hotbed for 'keepers are they !? Some of the great sides may as well have put Julian Clarey in goal,as the ball wouldn't have gone near him.Unfortunately City don't have that luxury. Dida, Julio Ceaser? You only really need a world class GK every decade tbh.
Leicester_Loyal Posted 27 February 2011 Posted 27 February 2011 It also makes me laugh how everyone is having ago at Yakubu, when hes got 4 goals in 7 games now, but he had 4 goals in what 5 games? Any other team in the Championship would give their bollocks to have him up front, but not us fickle Leicester fans who think we know better than a world class manager. Can everyone please just shut up and trust Sven with his job, you don't manage England, Mexico, Lazio and Ivory Coast without having a clue what to do.
acooling08 Posted 27 February 2011 Posted 27 February 2011 Why does Sven persist with Ricardo when he is playing badly and the fans clearly don't want him in goal? In Sven I am beginning to not trust.
Leicester_Loyal Posted 27 February 2011 Posted 27 February 2011 Why does Sven persist with Ricardo when he is playing badly and the fans clearly don't want him in goal? In Sven I am beginning to not trust. Yes because us fans have a better judgement of players. Us fan who see them for 90 minutes a week. Rather than Sven who sees them everyday for hours.
acooling08 Posted 27 February 2011 Posted 27 February 2011 It also makes me laugh how everyone is having ago at Yakubu, when hes got 4 goals in 7 games now, but he had 4 goals in what 5 games? Any other team in the Championship would give their bollocks to have him up front, but not us fickle Leicester fans who think we know better than a world class manager. Can everyone please just shut up and trust Sven with his job, you don't manage England, Mexico, Lazio and Ivory Coast without having a clue what to do. This is a forum where people are free to criticise anyone, especially players that aren't playing well. You're probably right, most teams would love to have Yak upfront. But after seeing how little he actually does after a few games I'm guessing many would see him as an anti-climax.
acooling08 Posted 27 February 2011 Posted 27 February 2011 Yes because us fans have a better judgement of players. Us fan who see them for 90 minutes a week. Rather than Sven who sees them everyday for hours. Anyone can see that Weale is clearly better than Ricardo. Surely it's common sense to play the better keeper. Or maybe Sven wants us to get 6th on the final game of the season and is intentionally losing us points by playing Retardo to set up a grandstand finish.
Leicester_Loyal Posted 27 February 2011 Posted 27 February 2011 Yakubu is a striker that finishes chances, which is what we needed, because we were creating chances, but no-one was finishing them. Now we have someone who will finish the chances and people are still moaning. It is not common sense at all, both keepers have their strengths and weaknesses. Sven is not a fool, he knows what he is doing.
Happy Fox Posted 27 February 2011 Posted 27 February 2011 Dida, Julio Ceaser? You only really need a world class GK every decade tbh. Cannot believe that Dida is a free agent Sven sign him up !!
m00nie Posted 27 February 2011 Posted 27 February 2011 Why does Sven persist with Ricardo when he is playing badly and the fans clearly don't want him in goal? In Sven I am beginning to not trust. why bother having sven at all? lets just leave it to us fans to pick teh team then.. we will just shout out who we want.. may have to ask fifa if we can change the rules to have 20 subs seeing as people will disagree who they want most of the time but got to be better than leaving it to sven hey...
Leicester_Loyal Posted 27 February 2011 Posted 27 February 2011 Glad I'm not the only one seeing it that way. Dida was a golden boy back in the day, Sven will know if he is still good enough. IN SVEN I TRUST.
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