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Not saying he will but that's the same Stringer that practically announced that Craig Mackail-Smith had signed on Friday.

Stringer said CMS will be signing and he didn't lol I think we will get Yakubu :thumbup:

To be fair, Peterborough's chairman basically said he was joining us.

Posted

Is Yak just trying to avoid pre season? He'll sign with us early August, relax (like he is currently doing!).

Brilliant! Yup, the first time we'll see him is on the coach to Cov

Posted

I know this is blasphemy on this forum, but Yakubu's all round game at this stage in his career is not good enough to get us promoted. He has had a serious achilles injury and so is not the same player he once was. For example, when we are under the cosh at West Ham away, the Yak will be an expensive passenger. He will only score in games we dominate.

But looking at the team Sven's putting together surely we will (or at least I'd expect us to) dominate the majority of our games next season. And in those games you need someone to convert the chances you create, which Yakubu does, or your dominance counts for nothing.

Posted

Even if Sven manages to strengthen other areas of the team by signing his preferred targets, the nature of this league demands that the most successful sides are those prepared to hustle and scrap when need be.

I'm not sure that Yakubu, at this stage in his career, has the appetite or will to be a part of that. He certainly didn't show those qualities often enough last season.

Posted

To be honest, I think the Yakubu boat has sailed. I really can't see us signing him now. I might be wrong, and I hope I am in some ways because I think on his day he'd tear up Championship defences and score a lot of goals for us (11 in 20 last year speaks for itself). However, I think Stringer alluded to it on last nights 'moan in', that he couln't see Yakubu coming back and that the club had other targers.

Hope I'm wrong, because I'd like to see Yakubu here, but I don't think it'll happen.

Posted

To get automatic promotion requires a lot of consistency (almost 2 points a game on average). If there are going to be games where we need a different type of player up front, then feeding the Yak with high wages and breaking the wage structure at the club doesn't seem to be very sensible to me.

Posted

To get automatic promotion requires a lot of consistency (almost 2 points a game on average). If there are going to be games where we need a different type of player up front, then feeding the Yak with high wages and breaking the wage structure at the club doesn't seem to be very sensible to me.

What wage structure?

SGE probably broke that along with the Yak last season, whoever comes to do the business to get us into the top 2 is going to be pricey, those players & agents know there is £90m to play with. Likewise if we want them to step down a division and risk lowering their profile, sponsorship & international opportunities it may be possible that we'd have to pay more in wages than a Premier league team would

The alternative is probably mid-table obscurity, considering parachute payments & other factors make it an unfair playing field before you start. We could of course try to emulate Norwich and to some extent Reading who grew their success a bit more organically, but that will take an amount of time our owners & manager just doesn't have.

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I loved having Yakubu the first maybe 3 or 4 games where he scored and looked up for it but towards the end I was so annoyed with his lack of effort I dont really know if I would want him back.

Also I know facts are facts and he scored 11 in 20 but if I am correct he scored a hatrick and 2 goals in another game so if you take those 5 goals out he scored 6 in 18 games (12 games he did not score in or do much else!) which would equate to 13.3 goals over 40 games not that impressive!

My point is he didnt seem to score when we really needed it to grind out a result which was the difference of us not making the playoffs.

Posted

I loved having Yakubu the first maybe 3 or 4 games where he scored and looked up for it but towards the end I was so annoyed with his lack of effort I dont really know if I would want him back.

Also I know facts are facts and he scored 11 in 20 but if I am correct he scored a hatrick and 2 goals in another game so if you take those 5 goals out he scored 6 in 18 games (12 games he did not score in or do much else!) which would equate to 13.3 goals over 40 games not that impressive!

My point is he didnt seem to score when we really needed it to grind out a result which was the difference of us not making the playoffs.

How can you say that? oh were not going to count it if he scores two or three goals in a game? ridiculous.

and even if you did take them away, he scored 6 goals, more than Howard, Waghorn and so on...

Posted

I loved having Yakubu the first maybe 3 or 4 games where he scored and looked up for it but towards the end I was so annoyed with his lack of effort I dont really know if I would want him back.

Also I know facts are facts and he scored 11 in 20 but if I am correct he scored a hatrick and 2 goals in another

game so if you take those 5 goals out he scored 6 in 18 games (12 games he did not score in or do much else!)

which would equate to 13.3 goals over 40 games not that

impressive!

My point is he didnt seem to score when we really needed it to grind out a result which was the difference of us not making the playoffs.

Totally agree. Not sure I fancy having him back either. Having Yakubu in the side was like playing with 10 men a lot of the time. Also missed some big chances in crucial games too, the draw at home to Cov springs to mind for starters ( not that I'm blaming him for not getting in the playoffs or anything like that).

The only question now is....... Who do we get in ?

Posted

How can you say that? oh were not going to count it if he scores two or three goals in a game? ridiculous.

and even if you did take them away, he scored 6 goals, more than Howard, Waghorn and so on...

Yes I agree he is better than what we have currently but my point is his goals meaning points ratio is not as good as it sounds when just saying oh he is amazing as he scored 11 in 20, its a lot easier to score when your well on top and everything is going for you in that game, if he had managed to spread those 5 goals out over 3 or 4 games where we needed that one single goal we would have made the playoffs.

Only trying to put a different view point to it, I would still be happy if he came back but not gutted if he didnt.

Posted

I loved having Yakubu the first maybe 3 or 4 games where he scored and looked up for it but towards the end I was so annoyed with his lack of effort I dont really know if I would want him back.

Also I know facts are facts and he scored 11 in 20 but if I am correct he scored a hatrick and 2 goals in another game so if you take those 5 goals out he scored 6 in 18 games (12 games he did not score in or do much else!) which would equate to 13.3 goals over 40 games not that impressive!

My point is he didnt seem to score when we really needed it to grind out a result which was the difference of us not making the playoffs.

Although I agree that Yakubu didn't shine against Cardiff, Reading or Forest when we needed him to I think your bit about 'takling' away the goals he scored where he scored more than once in a game is crazy, otherwise what you're saying is we need a striker who scores only once a game regularly but not a striker who scores a lot in games but not always regularly? Doesn't work like that my old fruit.

Anyway,

If Yakubu hadn't scored against Preston we'd have lost, if he hadn't got a hat-trick at Middlesboro we'd have lost, if he hadn't scored against Doncaster we'd have lost and if he didn't score twice against Watford we'd have drawn, likewise if he hadn't have scored against Bristol City we'd not have won.

If we got Yakubu permanently there would be 20+ goals without question, whether he did it in bursts, consistently or won them in a competition he'd easily get 20 goals next season he always has done.

Posted

Although I agree that Yakubu didn't shine against Cardiff, Reading or Forest when we needed him to I think your bit about 'takling' away the goals he scored where he scored more than once in a game is crazy, otherwise what you're saying is we need a striker who scores only once a game regularly but not a striker who scores a lot in games but not always regularly? Doesn't work like that my old fruit.

Anyway,

If Yakubu hadn't scored against Preston we'd have lost, if he hadn't got a hat-trick at Middlesboro we'd have lost, if he hadn't scored against Doncaster we'd have lost and if he didn't score twice against Watford we'd have drawn, likewise if he hadn't have scored against Bristol City we'd not have won.

If we got Yakubu permanently there would be 20+ goals without question, whether he did it in bursts, consistently or won them in a competition he'd easily get 20 goals next season he always has done.

I know it does not work like that in reality but was it not the same reason why people didnt think Fryatt was good enough cus he score 5 in 10 then went 10 games with out scoring again.

Posted

I know it does not work like that in reality but was it not the same reason why people didnt think Fryatt was good enough cus he score 5 in 10 then went 10 games with out scoring again.

That would be a ratio of 1:4 for fryatt, the yak had one of 1:1.8 so I can't see your point

Posted
If we got Yakubu permanently there would be 20+ goals without question, whether he did it in bursts, consistently or won them in a competition he'd easily get 20 goals next season he always has done.

Yakubu has managed 20 goals in a season ONCE - at Everton in 07-08 (before his injury).

Posted

Wouldnt want Berbatov either, he only scores hat-tricks and 5 goal hauls. Who on earth would want their striker to finish top goal scorer in the league if they only score ones like that?

:frusty:

Posted

I loved having Yakubu the first maybe 3 or 4 games where he scored and looked up for it but towards the end I was so annoyed with his lack of effort I dont really know if I would want him back.

Also I know facts are facts and he scored 11 in 20 but if I am correct he scored a hatrick and 2 goals in another game so if you take those 5 goals out he scored 6 in 18 games (12 games he did not score in or do much else!) which would equate to 13.3 goals over 40 games not that impressive!

My point is he didnt seem to score when we really needed it to grind out a result which was the difference of us not making the playoffs.

I see your point

although it seems a bit similar to "what have the Romans ever done for us.... apart from the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health"

I'd expect Vassell & Gally to weigh in with a few more goals than they did (& Wellens & Abe too) as should Dyer & Waghorn on their (albeit much rarer) appearances, yes I agree Yakubu doesn't contribute the most but quite a few goals other people scored were because defenders were marking Yakubu, you just can't quantify it like that.

He's paid to score goals and he scored them, other people are paid to weigh in with a few goals, as well as create them and they seemed a bit lacking in the scoring department to me, likewise the defence is paid to not concede goals and we all know what happened there.

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Wouldnt want Berbatov either, he only scores hat-tricks and 5 goal hauls. Who on earth would want their striker to finish top goal scorer in the league if they only score ones like that?

:frusty:

I would!

Beats Stevie Howard anyday.

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Wouldnt want Berbatov either, he only scores hat-tricks and 5 goal hauls. Who on earth would want their striker to finish top goal scorer in the league if they only score ones like that?

:frusty:

I was about to post something very similar :thumbup:

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