Alan Young

[Babylon]

I would agree with you if I knew what 'agenda' the bloke is meant to have? Are you assuming that he has an agenda?

The little I have heard from Young ( cos I'm at most games) he comes across, to me, as a frustrated Leicester City fan who gets peeved when he percieves players to not be pulling their weight. You can call this 'unprofessional' if you like... But as I said earlier, I'd rather perceive this in his voice than have to listen to someone like Gary Neville on Sky who bores me to fookin tears.

The point I was making again is the level of vitriol hurled at an ex City player who, IMO is trying to give his honest view of a football match... Not yours, not mine, but his own has been so vicious over the past couple or three days, like the Wellens threads were... And Young is merely a passionate commentator on a provincial radio station.

I don't think it's necessary... Is all

The agenda thing seems to get used on here quite a bit. In the last week alone two people have suggested I have an agenda.

I only wish I knew I had one, if I had I would have tried a bit harder!!

[Babylon]

Having been prompted to read through this entire thread via a comment posted on Bentley’s Roof, I have to say that I think it is quite sad that so many comments contained therein are so callous, biting and really nasty about someone who was not only one the Clubs outstanding players from yesteryear but is as passionate about the Club as any other fan.

Whether I personally agree with Alan Young’s comments is of no consequence but I will defend to the last his right to say them.

Indeed, I shudder to think what we listeners might be subjected to if some of the posters on this thread were to find themselves in the commentary box as the summariser or just how much better the commentary would be if they were given the opportunity to replace Ian Stringer.

I have followed the fortunes of Leicester City for sixty two years. Now, afflicted with Parkinson’s Disease which is just a fact of life and for which I crave no sympathy, I can’t get to as many matches as I would wish but when I can, I do.

I am eternally grateful to RL that I have the opportunity to listen to the commentary on every game, and that we are all given the opportunity to ‘ have your say’ on RL after the game or on ‘Football Forum’ - but how many of these posters do so? It seems many are very happy to criticise and mock those who do .

Well I do – Peter from Stockport – that’s me. I phoned in to RL after the game on Monday to ask Charlie Dagnall why on Twitter, he had been worried about LCFC. In a general reply, I had tweeted back –‘Worry is the interest on trouble before it is due. Today is the start of the rest of the season and we are going to start with a win!’

I never had any doubts and I was well chuffed. I enjoyed the commentary and I had listened with interest to Alan Young’s comments throughput the game.

So on to Forest. Get a life some of you. Enjoy what you can while you can. Lighten up .Just live and let live and please, respect your fellow fans.

Happy New Year.

Stocky

You'll defend his right to air his opinions on public radio, but have a go at people for stating their opinions of him on here?

[Mack]

I think if Young's comments accurately reflected what was actually going on then no one would have a problem.

I've noticed recently on the way home from games that his summary of some player's performances has been wide of the mark at times.

The debacle over Yakubu and his appraisal of Beckford lately being two notable instances.

And for those who cant make games for whatever reason surely there is a desire for what is said to give an accurate picture of the game?

[FrankieADZ]

I personally dont see whats the problem. imo I think he does a good job most of the times....hes purely airing his views. whats the problem with that!?!??

Like anything tho you must remember there his views on the game...not yours. its LIFE & everyone has there own opinion on things....unless we're in North Korea of course

If you dont like to hear the commentary then either go to every game....or dont listen.

So STOP moaning about it...jeez

[Babylon]

I personally dont see whats the problem. imo I think he does a good job most of the times....hes purely airing his views. whats the problem with that!?!??

He and Stringer are paid to give an accurate reflection on what is happening. People listening pay his wages via the license fee or via the foxes player subscription and are entitled to their opinion. As you say about him, they are "purely airing their views. What's the problem with that".

If they believe they are just getting a warped version of events because his bias towards certain players, then I would say they have every right to question his contribution.

[Livid]

You'll defend his right to air his opinions on public radio, but have a go at people for stating their opinions of him on here?

But thats the thing, you don't agree with his opinion, people don't agree with yours. Simples.

This has now turned into a 7 page thread on basically some blokes opinion. You are calling for a man who was a legend at this club, who has been through god knows what personally, to be sacked because you don't like what he is saying, FFS GROW UP!

Reporting on the City is a poison chalice, Bill Anderson, Uncle Nev, both apparently in the pocket of the club and not controversial enough for us all. Stringer doesn't get on with Pearson, Youngy says what he thinks, you can't please everyone.

[FrankieADZ]

He and Stringer are paid to give an accurate reflection on what is happening. People listening pay his wages via the license fee or via the foxes player subscription and are entitled to their opinion. As you say about him, they are "purely airing their views. What's the problem with that".

If they believe they are just getting a warped version of events because his bias towards certain players, then I would say they have every right to question his contribution.

i totally agree with you on ur last point, they have every right too.

On the whole matter; I'd rather have someone with a passion for the club commentating than someone who doesnt. regardless of there views etc.

[jimmer]

I imagine all the people sticking up for Young are the folk that are fortunate to get to games and not listen to him week in week out? I know he's been a great servant to the club and prob is a nice bloke if I ever had chance to meet him. However his analysis of the games are inaccurate......No doubt. I listen to the games on foxes player because I live away, they manage to paint a picture of the game in my head and more often than not this conflicts with what most say on here in the post mach thread.

When I do manage to get up to a game (about 5-6 a season) I drive to relatives, park and get a lift in with them, watch the game then get a lift back and listen to the moan in (cringe). Granted you get a lot of idiots ringing in, but in my eyes quite often his comments are of a totally different game to the one ive just watched.........starts to get annoying after a while. Some comments are deluded, theres no other word for it.

[Stig the Lawnmower]

Stringers just as bad !!!! I don't want opinions just commentary on the game !!!

I feel between the two they have started the bad feeling towards certain players . It started with Ricardo ,we brought weale back we all know how that turned out!!!! The yak was another and bamba is also one who young does nt like ...

I have been every home game and five away , drive home listening too the moan in cringeing at youngs summery and our mongol callers who haven't been too the game slagging players off who have played well in my opinion!

Agree, the commentary is rubbish. when he first started i thought youngy wasn't bad, but they have both degenerated into a complete farce. The fact that Nigel hates Stringer makes me laugh, I don't think he even did interviews with towards the end of his previous tenure.

they're both twats - get rid

[Babylon]

But thats the thing, you don't agree with his opinion, people don't agree with yours. Simples.

But I'm not the one coming on here defending his right to an opinion and then stating other people aren't allowed to air theirs.

You are calling for a man who was a legend at this club, who has been through god knows what personally, to be sacked because you don't like what he is saying, FFS GROW UP!

Called for him to be sacked, where have I done that then? I've said he has major bias towards certain players and this clearly plays out in his summary of events. and I've defended peoples right to air their opinion of his, just as many have defended his right to air his bias whilst being paid to do so.

I don't care who he is, who he played for, or what he's gone through. I just want someone who has opinions, but is fair about it. If Howard has been an idiot say so, don't try and defend him when you would have slaughtered other players for similar.

[stockyfox]

You'll defend his right to air his opinions on public radio, but have a go at people for stating their opinions of him on here?

Babylon

I have no objections to people stating their point of view and equally would defend their right to do so, What I said was that I found it sad that some of those opinions were expressed in such a hurtful way to a fellow Leicester City fan who is just as passionate about the Club as you or me.

Furthermore, there is the opportunity to express your views 'on air' rather than just through the anonymity of the various messageboards.

[Poakey]

Whats the big deal?

If i dont like his analysis arnt I allowed to type my thoughts on a forum which is here for airing our veiws?

Young dosent like Beckford and others but he broadcasts that over the world!

Unfortunatly i have no choice but to listen to most away games due to family commitments, usually i can bear it but Monday when i tuned in it was just as Beckford was coming on, i couldnt beleve what i was hearing, I thought Beckford had shot someone how disgusted Young sounded.

[Vestan Pance]

Give people a platform and they often get on the first train of opinionated crap leaving the station. Alan Young? or maybe look a little closer to home.

[C.J]

What happened?

[tommypello]

The best bit was when youngy was talking about Danns being out on his feet "we need to make an immediate sub, hes dead on his feet" to which stringer replied weve already made 3 subs...............long pause of silence, youngy = leicesters chris Kamara

[Babylon]

Furthermore, there is the opportunity to express your views 'on air' rather than just through the anonymity of the various messageboards.

Presuming of course you would get through.

I have no objections to people stating their point of view and equally would defend their right to do so, What I said was that I found it sad that some of those opinions were expressed in such a hurtful way to a fellow Leicester City fan who is just as passionate about the Club as you or me.

It's a message board, there are going to be idiots who take it too far. But on the whole, most people have fairly expressed that they are unhappy with the product we receive.

[shade]

Having been prompted to read through this entire thread via a comment posted on Bentley’s Roof, I have to say that I think it is quite sad that so many comments contained therein are so callous, biting and really nasty about someone who was not only one the Clubs outstanding players from yesteryear but is as passionate about the Club as any other fan.

Whether I personally agree with Alan Young’s comments is of no consequence but I will defend to the last his right to say them.

Indeed, I shudder to think what we listeners might be subjected to if some of the posters on this thread were to find themselves in the commentary box as the summariser or just how much better the commentary would be if they were given the opportunity to replace Ian Stringer.

I have followed the fortunes of Leicester City for sixty two years. Now, afflicted with Parkinson’s Disease which is just a fact of life and for which I crave no sympathy, I can’t get to as many matches as I would wish but when I can, I do.

I am eternally grateful to RL that I have the opportunity to listen to the commentary on every game, and that we are all given the opportunity to ‘ have your say’ on RL after the game or on ‘Football Forum’ - but how many of these posters do so? It seems many are very happy to criticise and mock those who do .

Well I do – Peter from Stockport – that’s me. I phoned in to RL after the game on Monday to ask Charlie Dagnall why on Twitter, he had been worried about LCFC. In a general reply, I had tweeted back –‘Worry is the interest on trouble before it is due. Today is the start of the rest of the season and we are going to start with a win!’

I never had any doubts and I was well chuffed. I enjoyed the commentary and I had listened with interest to Alan Young’s comments throughput the game.

So on to Forest. Get a life some of you. Enjoy what you can while you can. Lighten up .Just live and let live and please, respect your fellow fans.

Happy New Year.

Stocky

you defend someone's right to be biased, unfair and more often than not, fundamentally wrong? fair enough, but I pay £150 a year to the BBC who employ him, and then another £35 to have the privilege to listen to BBC radio Leicester over the Internet (surely that's wrong?!), so as his 'employer' I feel entitled to voice my opinion: he sucks.

[Babylon]

If Young gets sacked and we end up with some moron like Matt Piper again I won't be happy.

Nobody should get sacked over it, he's not done anything to get sacked for, that would just be bloody ludicrous. But the BBC, he and Stringer should take note of any SENSIBLE feedback they receive and try to improve where they can.

Of course people will go over the top, they deal with the general public on the phone ins, so I'm sure they are aware that there are a large number of people out there who go ridiculously over the top with things. Learn to ignore the idiots, but also take anything else as constructive criticism.

[ray49]

I listened to RL commentary on Saturday and was convinced through listening to Alan Young that Beckford had shown no interest in playing for the team. When I saw the comments on Foxestalk from those who had actually attended the match, it was obvious there was a mismatch between Young's opinion of Beckford's contribution to the match and that of the City supporters who paid to watch the match. We can all have different opinions about how well an individual has played in a particular match but Young's opinions went way beyond what was acceptable. As others have said, unlike people on this forum, the man is paid for his expert knowledge and it simply isn't good enough for him to regurgitate half-baked theories and prejudices.

[NewquayFox]

Horrible, nasty, spiteful thread and some folks on Foxes Talk should be ashamed of yourselfs, well if the outcome of this means that Alan Young gets the sack i hope that makes a lot of you satisfied......

Alan Young is an ex City player that starred for us in the era before massive wages and benefits that look after them when they retired, so having a bit of work on a local radio station that probably doesnt pay a fortune unlike the major broadcasters, it would help the big man through his retirement.

Playing football to the standard these guys did back in the day without the medical facilities there is surrounding todays footballers often left these blokes with crippling injuries to go through the rest of there lifes with, i know some folks will say Servicemen have had terrible injuries to carry through there life but this is a football pundit trying to get his opinion of a match over and not an ex Marine talking about the `Theatre of war`

Rant over and glad some of the worst posts on here were removed. Happy New Year..... i dont think so....

[Foxblogger]

Presuming of course you would get through.

That old chestnut. If you've been to the game the broadcast assistants will prioritise your call over someone who hasn't. Give it a go.

[The Doctor]

Horrible, nasty, spiteful thread and some folks on Foxes Talk should be ashamed of yourselfs, well if the outcome of this means that Alan Young gets the sack i hope that makes a lot of you satisfied......

Alan Young is an ex City player that starred for us in the era before massive wages and benefits that look after them when they retired, so having a bit of work on a local radio station that probably doesnt pay a fortune unlike the major broadcasters, it would help the big man through his retirement.

Playing football to the standard these guys did back in the day without the medical facilities there is surrounding todays footballers often left these blokes with crippling injuries to go through the rest of there lifes with, i know some folks will say Servicemen have had terrible injuries to carry through there life but this is a football pundit trying to get his opinion of a match over and not an ex Marine talking about the `Theatre of war`

Rant over and glad some of the worst posts on here were removed. Happy New Year..... i dont think so....

I can only speak for myself, but I couldn't care less if he used to play for us or not. Him and Stringer are meant to commentate on the game and give those who are unable to make the match a good idea of what is going on on the pitch, now they don't do that - so frequently they go away from the game, talking utter rubbish about their journey up there or plugging radio leicester.

Add into that Young clearly has his favourites (as does Stringer) and they warp the opinions of those listening. For instance Yakubu last year - got it in the neck so much from Young that a lot of fans thought, and still insist, that he was rubbish, which for those at the games did puzzle. Likewise Waghorn - so much praise that fans seem to think he was the second coming of jesus when really he was quite poor all of last season. Another example was Bruma - how much stick did he get from fans? Far more than was warranted, I can tell you that much.

Quite frankly, they have a job to do, and they aren't doing it to anywhere near a good enough standard.

[Babylon]

Alan Young is an ex City player that starred for us in the era before massive wages and benefits that look after them when they retired, so having a bit of work on a local radio station that probably doesnt pay a fortune unlike the major broadcasters, it would help the big man through his retirement.

Playing football to the standard these guys did back in the day without the medical facilities there is surrounding todays footballers often left these blokes with crippling injuries to go through the rest of there lifes with, i know some folks will say Servicemen have had terrible injuries to carry through there life but this is a football pundit trying to get his opinion of a match over and not an ex Marine talking about the `Theatre of war`

I don't see why any of that is even relevant. If people aren't happy with the service they receive then they can air it should they wish to, It is after all a service we all pay for. Just because you see it as some blokes pension scheme doesn't mean he shouldn't face a critique of his performance.

If he was to lose his job then it says a lot about the idiots at the BBC more than it does the majority on here, many of whom have just posted constructive criticism.

As I said previously, idiots need to be ignored but constructive posts taken on board.

[Guest Col city fan]

I listened to RL commentary on Saturday and was convinced through listening to Alan Young that Beckford had shown no interest in playing for the team. When I saw the comments on Foxestalk from those who had actually attended the match, it was obvious there was a mismatch between Young's opinion of Beckford's contribution to the match and that of the City supporters who paid to watch the match. We can all have different opinions about how well an individual has played in a particular match but Young's opinions went way beyond what was acceptable. As others have said, unlike people on this forum, the man is paid for his expert knowledge and it simply isn't good enough for him to regurgitate half-baked theories and prejudices.

Why are Young's theories any more 'half-baked' than anyone else's?

He seems to find Beckford a player who doesn't get involved in the game as much as he could and finds this very frustrating... I agree

He seems to find Matt Mills nowhere near the player we all feel he could be.... I agree

He finds Neil Danns goes missing in games... I agree

I ask again... What sort of commentary do you want? A completely PC, neutral analysis of a game or someone who is simply expressing their views on a club they love. Don't forget that Youngy isn't actually doing the game commentary is he? That's Stringers job I believe? Young comes in to expressly give his view.

If his view does not concur with that of others then cest la vie... Are you expecting everything he says to 'fit in' with everyone else's view of the same player. God, you only have to come on here after a game to see the huge discrepancies between views of the same game, the same players, the same incidents immediately after a game!

The problem I think Young may have is that he wears his heart on his sleeve too much.. He therefore doesn't neatly fit-in to the modern day, PC world of saying lots but actually saying nothing at all.

To take Beckford as an example, i reckon he thinks that Beckford has massively under performed so far this season and, compared to the rough and tough, all effort type player that Youngy was, he finds Beckford an arrogant Prima Donna that is being paid far too much for the effort he puts in. However, I also believe that he is first and foremost a City fan who is actually willing Beckford to start hitting the back of the net.

It all depends what you want from 'Stringers side-kick'... Someone who sometimes gets it wrong ( like we all do) but who 'says it as he sees it' or someone who gives an impartial view on everything.

I don't always agree with Young... For example, I'm sure he said that Becks had a good game on Boxing Day! When I personally thought he was pants. But I commend him for actually daring to give his own view on things, rather than trawling out a lot of neutral impartiality like most people seem to do in a similar position these days.

[Babylon]

That old chestnut. If you've been to the game the broadcast assistants will prioritise your call over someone who hasn't. Give it a go.

I'm talking about calling up to discuss the quality of commentary.