maccfox Posted 3 January 2012 Posted 3 January 2012 Agree with most of the points in this thread but not sure either of em are biased against Beckford. Ipswich on Boxing Day both said that Beckford had a very good 2nd half and was a constant threat, this was at odds with everything I heard from those who were at the game and obviously not a view shared by Nigel as he deropped him for the following game. Perhaps they often seem to be saying Beckford is crap because err he actually IS crap most of the time? just a thought
m00nie Posted 3 January 2012 Posted 3 January 2012 Agree with most of the points in this thread but not sure either of em are biased against Beckford. Ipswich on Boxing Day both said that Beckford had a very good 2nd half and was a constant threat, this was at odds with everything I heard from those who were at the game and obviously not a view shared by Nigel as he deropped him for the following game. Perhaps they often seem to be saying Beckford is crap because err he actually IS crap most of the time? just a thought naaa, the tone in his voice yesterday when JB had to stop and take his ring off was of disgust... how many people have said that howards sending off was ok ? i cant recall seeing anyone, yet young still just preferred to slag beckford off..
Charl91 Posted 3 January 2012 Posted 3 January 2012 If you comment like a child you will be reffered to as one. There is only so many times I can hear sarcastic comments suggesting only goalscoring matters. It's an extremely juvenile argument and especially so when I have already said specifically what I don't like about him and you've chosen to ignore it. Darren Bent has never done it for it England, and was a failure at Tottenham, nor is he really a comparison to Yakubu, for a number of reasons. In the Championship, if you want to be challenging for promotion and getting consistent results you can not get away with lazy players who go missing for large parts, especially if said player is supposed to be your central striker. It's not what Yakubu does in games that he scores in, it's what he does in games that he doesn't. In almost every game he didn't score in he was bloody useless, he refused to try and escape his marker or chase the ball down, and on the few occassions that the ball did get to him his first touch was terrible and he failed to hold it up. It was like playing with 10 men and as I'm sure you know, you are at a disadvantage if you play with 10 men. And I'm not talking 1 or 2 games here, I'm talking 7 or 8. blah blah blah blah Firstly - Darren Bent not done it for England?! In the past 2 years, where he has been a regular, he has 4 goals in 8 games, and supplied the assist against Spain, ffs. He's been the 3rd highest goal scorer in the PL the season behind last, only behind Rooney and Drogba. You clearly have a bias against any player that doesn't run around a lot like a headless chicken. Playing with ten men is an exaggeration - Yakubu isn't just useless when he doesn't score - because he's so dangerous, he always has to be marked, so makes space for others. It's no coincidence that we were one of the top scorers in the league last season. He also is one of the few players that we had that could create something out of nothing around the box. He might not have stamina, but his positioning and shooting are generally both good. Yes - you would rather have a player that runs around a lot AND scores lots of goals, and yes, at the moment, I would play Nugent over Beckford, as he works hard and still gets the goals. However, most players that good are playing in the premiership. I'd rather have the foward that scores lots of goals, but not much else, then one who runs around but achieves nothing. If you wouldn't have Yakubu back here, then you're insane.
Guest Col city fan Posted 3 January 2012 Posted 3 January 2012 Agree with most of the points in this thread but not sure either of em are biased against Beckford. Ipswich on Boxing Day both said that Beckford had a very good 2nd half and was a constant threat, this was at odds with everything I heard from those who were at the game and obviously not a view shared by Nigel as he deropped him for the following game. Perhaps they often seem to be saying Beckford is crap because err he actually IS crap most of the time? just a thought Exactly right.. Post match Boxing Day he was full of praise for Beckford.. And got slated for saying so...
cc_star Posted 3 January 2012 Posted 3 January 2012 Agree with most of the points in this thread but not sure either of em are biased against Beckford. Ipswich on Boxing Day both said that Beckford had a very good 2nd half and was a constant threat, this was at odds with everything I heard from those who were at the game and obviously not a view shared by Nigel as he deropped him for the following game. Perhaps they often seem to be saying Beckford is crap because err he actually IS crap most of the time? just a thought Beckford is just an example, if he was to leave tomorrow... we'd still be stuck with his agenda and he's not summarising what actually happens.... just like Stringer rarely conveys what happens. It's just a shower of shit really
Kitchandro Posted 3 January 2012 Posted 3 January 2012 Agree with most of the points in this thread but not sure either of em are biased against Beckford. Ipswich on Boxing Day both said that Beckford had a very good 2nd half and was a constant threat, this was at odds with everything I heard from those who were at the game and obviously not a view shared by Nigel as he deropped him for the following game. Perhaps they often seem to be saying Beckford is crap because err he actually IS crap most of the time? just a thought You've got sort of a point tbf. Stringer and Youngy insisted that Beckford was brilliant against Ipswich, when he was in fact terrible. And Beckford hasn't been good enough. However he does have his favourites, absolutely no doubt about that.
Kitchandro Posted 3 January 2012 Posted 3 January 2012 Firstly - Darren Bent not done it for England?! In the past 2 years, where he has been a regular, he has 4 goals in 8 games, and supplied the assist against Spain, ffs. He's been the 3rd highest goal scorer in the PL the season behind last, only behind Rooney and Drogba. You clearly have a bias against any player that doesn't run around a lot like a headless chicken. So he's had 8 games in 2 years and he's 'done it'? He's had quite a few chances and has been poor on the whole. He's scored a few recently but he's not England standard, our striking options are no where near good enough. Anyway, I don't see any comparison between Yakubu and Bent in terms of work rate, nor do I see Villa as a comparison to Leicester (though they are doing shit and he doesn't seem to be scoring many for them). So no this has nothing to do with bias, or Bent. Stop changing the subject and stick to Yakubu. We're talking about Yakubu. Yeh? Playing with ten men is an exaggeration - Yakubu isn't just useless when he doesn't score - because he's so dangerous, he always has to be marked, so makes space for others. It's no coincidence that we were one of the top scorers in the league last season. He also is one of the few players that we had that could create something out of nothing around the box. He might not have stamina, but his positioning and shooting are generally both good. Playing with ten men is not an exaggeration, it's a falsehood, LIKE playing with ten men is very accurate. He is anything but hard to be marked a lot of the time, I saw him so often last season walking around when we were in possession, making no attempt to escape his marker. This was evident during our bad run around March/April. We had an attacking, naive set-up last season which created a hatful of chances for Yakubu and others. Yakubu was a good goalscorer but very little else. Putting our goals tally down to Yakubu is wide of the mark. How many goals did he score out of nothing? About 2. The rest were on a silver platter. I'd say he missed three times that many easy chances during his drought. Yes - you would rather have a player that runs around a lot AND scores lots of goals, and yes, at the moment, I would play Nugent over Beckford, as he works hard and still gets the goals. However, most players that good are playing in the premiership. I'd rather have the foward that scores lots of goals, but not much else, then one who runs around but achieves nothing. If you wouldn't have Yakubu back here, then you're insane. But that's completely untrue. The top scorers in this league last season and this aren't lazy or really inconsistent in performances. The last thing we need right now is an immobile striker waiting for service. If we are to get a striker he needs a bit more about him than that. I'm not insane, I just have a memory that isn't selective.
UrbanFox Posted 3 January 2012 Posted 3 January 2012 Glad its not just me that cant stand this bloke!!
LCFC_FAN_1995 Posted 3 January 2012 Posted 3 January 2012 I used to respect the guy but he was saying Beckford was awful! He showed he was up for it! Nearly got us 1-3 up but didn't hit it right, Alan Young should just get out of here and put Steve Walsh in when he did that commentary when Young was in Scotland
MikeyT Posted 3 January 2012 Posted 3 January 2012 Just put this as his Facebook status: A guy called Stuart MacDonald, who claims to be a friend, may have cost me my job...go have a look at what he has said and if you agree then that's fine....I would appreciate your comments..Alan. Also: some of the comments on Foxestalk are quite hurtful but I'll survive
EnderbyFox Posted 3 January 2012 Posted 3 January 2012 Just put this as his Facebook status: A guy called Stuart MacDonald, who claims to be a friend, may have cost me my job...go have a look at what he has said and if you agree then that's fine....I would appreciate your comments..Alan. Also: some of the comments on Foxestalk are quite hurtful but I'll survive What did he say?
Guest Col city fan Posted 3 January 2012 Posted 3 January 2012 Just put this as his Facebook status: A guy called Stuart MacDonald, who claims to be a friend, may have cost me my job...go have a look at what he has said and if you agree then that's fine....I would appreciate your comments..Alan. Also: some of the comments on Foxestalk are quite hurtful but I'll survive It's hardly surprising he's upset if he's read some of the stuff that's been posted about him on here is it...
UpTheLeagueFox Posted 3 January 2012 Posted 3 January 2012 So what if Youngy has his favourites? Let's face it - he does have to deal with some right muppets ringing in post match. Which reminds me of Andy from Long Eaton back in the mid 90s. What a tool he was...
MikeyT Posted 3 January 2012 Posted 3 January 2012 What did he say? Not entirely sure. Although he is apparently a member on here.
I am Rod Hull Posted 3 January 2012 Posted 3 January 2012 Just put this as his Facebook status: A guy called Stuart MacDonald, who claims to be a friend, may have cost me my job...go have a look at what he has said and if you agree then that's fine....I would appreciate your comments..Alan. Also: some of the comments on Foxestalk are quite hurtful but I'll survive Poor bloke, its not like he`s Gary Glitter is it. Its the same with other ex city players in the media, Claridge, Savage (except Jug ears), If they say owt you dont like you jump all over them and forget what they`ve done for the club in years gone by.... Hang your heads in shame I still love you Youngy
Trav Le Bleu Posted 3 January 2012 Posted 3 January 2012 He was my hero on the pitch as a teenager and I liked him when he started on RL, a breath of fresh air, but him and Stringer should stick to commentary during the match and give opinions after.
Callabinho Posted 3 January 2012 Posted 3 January 2012 I've met youngy once or twice, and I think He is actually a dead nice bloke! I had a chat with him about my uni course and he showed a genuine interest about it and what I was up too in general! we all have opinions and I admit I don't agree with everything he says, but if I say to you all now, that I think Van nistlerooy was the best player ever to grace filbert way, some will agree and others disagree. However I much prefer Youngy to John "picked out by a sniper" barbour!
Webbo Posted 3 January 2012 Posted 3 January 2012 Whoever does the commentary on RL will be moaned about on here. Some people need to lighten up.
Guest MattP Posted 3 January 2012 Posted 3 January 2012 If Young gets sacked and we end up with some moron like Matt Piper again I won't be happy.
MattGamble92 Posted 3 January 2012 Posted 3 January 2012 I see Stringer and Young have both viewed this thread. So i think our opinions have been taken on board. Leave it at that now.
Corky Posted 3 January 2012 Posted 3 January 2012 Also: some of the comments on Foxestalk are quite hurtful but I'll survive Blimey, at least you weren't the target in the Kinder thread Alan.
MikeyT Posted 3 January 2012 Posted 3 January 2012 I don't mind either of them, and while I don't agree with everything that is said (who does?) I would rather have them than like someone said above, Matt Piper.
Guest Col city fan Posted 3 January 2012 Posted 3 January 2012 I see Stringer and Young have both viewed this thread. So i think our opinions have been taken on board. Leave it at that now. I fear the complete annihilation of yet another City player who has been great for the club over the years may be complete. In Alan Young we have a commentator who I don't always agree with, but who always tells it like he thinks it.. Or seems to anyway. As I said earlier, his opinion is just as valid as any other fookers... And if he is biased towards City... Good on him I say.
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