Simo86 Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 Oh please! Ronaldo thinks he's messi he is not Ferdinand thinks he's young he's not and Danns might think he's the next XAVI Who gives a flying Fvuck there is no evidence for that claim let alone the fact that Gallagher is often shy to come forward to the press fans and media he much prefers letting his play do the talking. He knows his own ability and he knows more than you about who he thinks he is! Ronaldo thinks he's Messi? Bad arguement See where you're coming from though
Simo86 Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 Gally closes players down most people don't see this through their blind mob-mentality rage, he also plays insightful passes and does a lot of good work. His weak areas are tackling (what a shocker for a technical player). Christ some of Kasper's decisions are woeful but I would never start a thread slagging him off, 50% of Mills passing is woeful, Konch is prone to a lofted ball which loses possession, Peltier is often out of position, yes Gally doesn't tackle but he does trackback & press, Danns fouls a lot & loses possession, Wellens is apparently the devil, Dyer is weak at crosses (many fast wingers actually are) Beckford is uninterested & lazy The list goes on & on Sick of the witch-hunts on FT. Every player has faults if they didn't they'd be £50m+ and wouldn't play for us Fernando Torres
iniesta Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 He doesn't need to tell anyone its quite clearly obvious. His attempted Hollywood passes, taking every single set piece even though most of them are shit. Fair play to him though he does come up with the odd quality goal every season, but that is a luxury you cannot afford. Plus he is a pussy and pulls out of every challenge..
seenitall Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 Gally closes players down most people don't see this through their blind mob-mentality rage, he also plays insightful passes and does a lot of good work. His weak areas are tackling (what a shocker for a technical player). Christ some of Kasper's decisions are woeful but I would never start a thread slagging him off, 50% of Mills passing is woeful, Konch is prone to a lofted ball which loses possession, Peltier is often out of position, yes Gally doesn't tackle but he does trackback & press, Danns fouls a lot & loses possession, Wellens is apparently the devil, Dyer is weak at crosses (many fast wingers actually are) Beckford is uninterested & lazy The list goes on & on Sick of the witch-hunts on FT. Every player has faults if they didn't they'd be £50m+ and wouldn't play for us Just the player witch hunts or the manager ones as well?
Guest Col city fan Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 Can't help but agree. Our fans seem to need to have someone to pick on. I don't understand it and cannot see how it helps. I cant say I agree with this.. The point of a football forum IMO is to ventilate. When we have played well and won, the posts made are generally positive. When we play badly, people are frustrated and wish to 'air their views' so to speak. Contradiction in terms though it is, I agree with Seenitall on this. What purpose does Foxes Talk serve if it's not to discuss, criticise, adulate, moan, laugh etc etc at everything we see and hear about our beloved club. Where it goes too far IMO is when one player gets ridiculed, abused and crucified immensely, and as such, becomes a scapegoat. This happened recently with Count Wellens. Actually, the criticism of Gally has been quite light by comparison. King has had his fair share but is being left alone currently due to his injury. We all have the same aim... To get promotion to the 'promised land'... When we see players not trying hard enough, or putting in light tackles, or ballooning free kicks over the bar far too often, or getting caught out of position etc etc we become concerned that those players do not have the sufficient quality to 'get us up' so to speak. Now.. Gallagher... He is not a bad player. Technically he's adept, he can have a stormer every so often and he's a popular figure off the field. BUT I think we all know he's not a good enough player to achieve our ultimate aim ie promotion. It's for this reason that he's currently recieving the flak he's getting. Continually relying on Gally to pull his socks up and make a meaningful contribution to this aim is becoming harder to do with more performances like he had last night. Gallys ok. But simply, we need better than Gally to go up. Same as we need better than Lloyd and Richie. For this reason I'd start the 'newbies' on Sat against Brighton and see how they get on.
Captain... Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 He doesn't need to tell anyone its quite clearly obvious. His attempted Hollywood passes, taking every single set piece even though most of them are shit. Fair play to him though he does come up with the odd quality goal every season, but that is a luxury you cannot afford. Plus he is a pussy and pulls out of every challenge.. Would rather he tackled like Paul Scholes, giving away constant free kicks. You don't need to slide in full blooded to defend effectively, just stand em up pressurise them in to passing it backwards, often the worse thing you can do is fly in, it is much easier to pass especially if you aren't good at it. Against teams like boro Gallagher looks weak and gets bullied (not the only one) it may have been different if the ref had control over the game. As it was last night he took a knock in the first half and never quite looked on his game afterwards.
_Fatboyslow_ Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 Come on everyone. We all know the players some we like some we admire, to move forward we need a manager to be here for more than 12 months then at least the said manager will have a chance to build HIS team..... and NFP IS NOT GOING TO THROW NEW PLAYERS IN so let's see what happens over the next few games
jonlcfc1990 Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 It's all well and good saying this but i see a lot more scapegoat threads King Wellens Pearson Howard Gally Top Beckford And yet only a handful of positives for these players? I mean "Is Pearson the long term answer" Is still in the topics i thought that would of been long gone after we started winning games again or it just looks silly. Lets get some positive threads going towards the end of the season i'll be at every home game and most away singing all of our boys names and chanting until my voice is gone so what if the seasons over or we can't get promotion lets just play well and get behind the boys
seenitall Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 It's all well and good saying this but i see a lot more scapegoat threads King Wellens Pearson Howard Gally Top Beckford And yet only a handful of positives for these players? I mean "Is Pearson the long term answer" Is still in the topics i thought that would of been long gone after we started winning games again or it just looks silly. Lets get some positive threads going towards the end of the season i'll be at every home game and most away singing all of our boys names and chanting until my voice is gone so what if the seasons over or we can't get promotion lets just play well and get behind the boys But if we come on here and just bleat on about how great they are (especially when they haven't been), won't the board become a trifle stale? I don't really like the personal slagging off and the crap about their appearance etc but surely there has to be a forum somewhere other than just the games (and I would rather it wasn't at the games when away fans are there, kind of like airing our dirty laundry etc) where we can discuss whether or not we should be playing Gally or Mills etc - or even whether the board are clueless or Sven was crap - once you remove this then you have a forum that just sucks up to the owners and offers no counter to crap decisions by Nige, players or board. Fan power still counts at some clubs, Liverpool for example, and guys who earn £20k plus a week should not be above someone pointing out that their first corner last night was so poor that the first man had to stoop to head it away!!!
jonlcfc1990 Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 I think this Forum is refreshing and has a lot of members new and old it keeps up to date with every match and every match event not including all the news threads and discussions on other clubs. I guess people like myself just take the player bashing a bit to heart as i see them as a Leicester player i have my favourites but i dont have my dislikes they all have aspects that i don't lik but i forgive them because we've seen what they can do. Yes I'm biased Yes i see things through blue tinted sunglasses IM A LEICESTER FAN i'm not going to change anytime soon. As for the threads me not liking player bashing isn't going to make the threads go stale it's good to have a debate and voice oposing views at the end of the day i could be proved wrong but so might the people bashing them (Beckford is an example) and we all move on. It's just banter and we all support city in the end
cc_star Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 Contradiction in terms though it is, I agree with Seenitall on this. What purpose does Foxes Talk serve if it's not to discuss, criticise, adulate, moan, laugh etc etc at everything we see and hear about our beloved club. Because most of it isn't based in fact & its just mob mentality drivel, driven by whatever the mob happen to think that week... and it's always negative with a hate figure. It serves no purpose whatsoever Debate is great, I'd love to see more of it not less but people seem to be only taking about it like sheep, whatever the hatemob thinks that week is the truth regardless of what they see through their own eyes, in many cases they don't even see it through their own eyes any more but through the mobs eyes & it's a twisted version of what actually happens Anyone who watches Gally over the last 4 games (& before, but lets keep it simple) will see he closes players down, he forces them to either make a backpass or to pass early & not as precisely as they might. Does he tackle like a Centre Back? No, does that make him a pussy? Certainly not, diving in & missing is the worst thing a wide-man can do because it gives the opposition a free run or time to make a telling pass. He plays many telling passes into the box & more often than not makes good use of the ball. Is he the only technical player in the world to not dive in like Walshie on a red mist day? No, most technical players avoid the tackle... and anyone who has a clue about football will know that wide forwards are supposed to press, Gally does this by the bucket-load Should he score more? Yes, but I'd much rather he hold possession & make a pass than shoot from 40 yards & lose possession allowing the opposition to attack Of course there are some shortcomings as there are for ALL of our players, if they weren't they'd play for Barca.
Corky Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 I think he's too "luxury" and we need someone else in his position. Hopefully Marshall will be in for Saturday.
Guest Col city fan Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 Because most of it isn't based in fact & its just mob mentality drivel, driven by whatever the mob happen to think that week... and it's always negative with a hate figure. It serves no purpose whatsoever Debate is great, I'd love to see more of it not less but people seem to be only taking about it like sheep, whatever the hatemob thinks that week is the truth regardless of what they see through their own eyes, in many cases they don't even see it through their own eyes any more but through the mobs eyes & it's a twisted version of what actually happens Anyone who watches Gally over the last 4 games (& before, but lets keep it simple) will see he closes players down, he forces them to either make a backpass or to pass early & not as precisely as they might. Does he tackle like a Centre Back? No, does that make him a pussy? Certainly not, diving in & missing is the worst thing a wide-man can do because it gives the opposition a free run or time to make a telling pass. He plays many telling passes into the box & more often than not makes good use of the ball. Is he the only technical player in the world to not dive in like Walshie on a red mist day? No, most technical players avoid the tackle... and anyone who has a clue about football will know that wide forwards are supposed to press, Gally does this by the bucket-load Should he score more? Yes, but I'd much rather he hold possession & make a pass than shoot from 40 yards & lose possession allowing the opposition to attack Of course there are some shortcomings as there are for ALL of our players, if they weren't they'd play for Barca. I could be wrong here but weren't you the one who was putting about the conspiracy theory about Wellens that rolled on and on and on and was not based in any actual facts?
steveherbe Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 He thinks he is Beckham.... He is not... I dunno, there is a look of Victoria about him in a certain light.......
Bettsy82 Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 I have always been gallaghers biggest critic but yesterday I thought he was trying a lot harder tracking back and even winning tackles sometimes. His treatment when substituted wasn't warranted last night as there were far worse performers last night.
cc_star Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 I could be wrong here but weren't you the one who was putting about the conspiracy theory about Wellens that rolled on and on and on and was not based in any actual facts? No My comments on Wellens were that the team had no movement to find space & no desire to get in front of their man to receive a pass, meaning Wellens had no choice but to resort to the 'hollywood pass'
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 Gallagher is not good enough. I don't think he is the scapegoat, because I haven't rated him since he joined. Doesn't tackle, poor in the air, doesn't score enough goals, set pieces are rubbish. He is a one good game in 10 player, and if we want to push for promotion players like this are not good enough for our team. Well said. When we need to grind out results like we do at the moment he isnt good enough, shouldnt even be in the team, most overrated player we have had in years.
m00nie Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 whilst i think i would prefer him not to start nowdays i dont think hes as bad as people make out. hes been a regular in the team since hes been here so surely that shows hes not useless, we couldnt carry 1 player for that long..
Blueforever Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 I find him a really frustrating player...moments of quality followed by moments of utter crapness. Southampton game was a good point, before he went off he put in a couple top quality crosses, one was scored and nother Nuge should have scored but then kept giving the ball away and miscontrolling it
Jobyfox Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 I have always been gallaghers biggest critic but yesterday I thought he was trying a lot harder tracking back and even winning tackles sometimes. His treatment when substituted wasn't warranted last night as there were far worse performers last night. I've always defended Gallagher to some extent, but I can't think of any player last night who influenced the game less. When Gallagher is off his set plays then he really doesn't have much point. When he's on ...... Hence the frustration
Fox92 Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 http://www.soccerbas...player_id=34711 Theres the stats IMO he's not a winger it's not his fault he's played in that position I agree he isn't a winger, but he isn't a striker either. We've seen him play numerous times up front for Leicester, but like always with him, there is no effort and he lacks pace and strength. I'd probably say his position is behind a striker/s, but I'd prefer him not to be in our starting line up at all.
acooling08 Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 I like Gallagher, but I think that now it is time he became a squad player. I think Drinkwater and Marshall should be ahead of him in the pecking order.
tylesta Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 I find him a really frustrating player...moments of quality followed by moments of utter crapness. Southampton game was a good point, before he went off he put in a couple top quality crosses, one was scored and nother Nuge should have scored but then kept giving the ball away and miscontrolling it which one was scored as i swear ssl crossed it for the goal.
Jobyfox Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 Has everyone else, but me, actually seen Marshall play? Personally I’d quite like to see him in a Leicester shirt before I go into print that he’s a better option than Gallagher.
Wherethefoxhat? Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 Quote Because most of it isn't based in fact & its just mob mentality drivel, driven by whatever the mob happen to think that week... and it's always negative with a hate figure. It serves no purpose whatsoever Debate is great, I'd love to see more of it not less but people seem to be only taking about it like sheep, whatever the hatemob thinks that week is the truth regardless of what they see through their own eyes, in many cases they don't even see it through their own eyes any more but through the mobs eyes & it's a twisted version of what actually happens NOW ain't that the truth !!!! Spot on !!!
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