StarFox Posted 16 February 2012 Posted 16 February 2012 Have we just simply been unlucky this season? I can think of an excuse in most games why we haven't won it and our poor performances are probably just standard hiccups any promotion pushing team would have. Or do you think a good team makes their own luck? Discuss..
purpleronnie Posted 16 February 2012 Posted 16 February 2012 we've been as lucky and unlucky as every other team.
Jace Posted 16 February 2012 Posted 16 February 2012 I think we have gone out with a winning mentality this season and sometimes that can cost you games as well as win/draw them. Looking at our goal difference/goals scored we probably should of picked up more points than we have but we have scrapped quite a few results aswell. It will come together eventually the same as it did for QPR when they came mid table and followed up by winning the league.
Jagdinho Posted 16 February 2012 Posted 16 February 2012 we've been as lucky and unlucky as every other team. I really don't believe that. With some of the refs we have had.
cc_star Posted 16 February 2012 Posted 16 February 2012 Have we just simply been unlucky this season? I can think of an excuse in most games why we haven't won it and our poor performances are probably just standard hiccups any promotion pushing team would have. Or do you think a good team makes their own luck? Discuss.. No We've rarely played at the required level of intensity I can only think of Derby & Brighton at home and Southampton away where the whole team has had the desire to get the extra-mile chase lost causes and receive the ball. Other than that only Kasper & Konch have been good enough, everyone else from Mills, Bamba, SSL, Peltier, Dyer, Wellens, Gally, Beckford haven't done enough 100% of the time. TBH It's a poor show I can't see many being here for the start of next season I just hope we can keep Kasper, Nuge & Konch along the way.
acooling08 Posted 16 February 2012 Posted 16 February 2012 I really do not believe the 'luck evens out' argument at all. Some teams this season including us will probably have been cost around 10 points due to referees, whereas others have probably gained 10. But I must say that dispite being unlucky with refs, we haven't been good enough this season to get promoted anyway.
jonlcfc1990 Posted 16 February 2012 Posted 16 February 2012 Having a look at the games in question. Bristol: SSL Loses footing and gives away goal= bad luck? No he shouldn't of been caught in possession and Wellens shouldn't of passed it to him but you know he loves to pass back Forest away= Kasper sent off for throwing the ball to the halfway line= Bad luck? Yes but he should of kept eye contact with the ref so he knew if he was booked and Weale getting beaten for the equalizer was poor goal keeping Birmingham and Hull=bad luck? No Mills deserved to go maybe 20 years ago you could do that kind of tackle (i think they were fine) but not in this climate Middlesborough Ref= Bad luck? I'd say yes but he was poor for both sides on the pitch which is probably why we drew. Brighton= bad luck? I'd say this is the only bad luck case i mean Beckfords awful red card and then Danns and Then 8 men on the pitch? Come on it was poor and most certainly not our day that day. Any others i've missed?
Jace Posted 16 February 2012 Posted 16 February 2012 football is all about luck, but the style and attitude that you play with determines how much luck you have.
Jace Posted 16 February 2012 Posted 16 February 2012 And even if referees have cost us 6 points this season in bad decisions that would still not make any difference anyway. I am sure every team in the Championship could pick out a couple of matches where bad referee decisions have potentially cost them points this season
Leicesterpool Posted 16 February 2012 Posted 16 February 2012 Mainly the refs have been bad this year, starting with 2-2 Forest they get a cheap pen plus Kasper gets sent off for nothing, Middlesbrough 2-2 the ref should have set off half of the middlesbrough team, Brighton lost 0-1 Becks sent off for doing nothing, in my opinion we would have won that game if Becks didn't go off. List goes on, also bad performances like Birmingham away, Hull away, Doncaster away, Millwall home, Barnsley home, Portsmouth away, Peterborough home, Portsmouth home, Bristol home, Reading home, Barnsley away, Leeds home, Ipswich home, Brighton away and Watford away have cost us dearly. To be honest this season it's been rare to see a good performance from leicester and my opinion every since Nigel's came back it's got worse.
Captain... Posted 16 February 2012 Posted 16 February 2012 We certainly haven't been lucky this season, but to attribute everything to luck is wrong, I do believe you make your own luck, there was good Derren Brown show on luck that pretty much proved that, I think our attitude has been the main factor at first, I think at the start of the season we thought we were too good and couldn't raise ourselves to play, and now we don't think we are good enough and it shows in nerves when we are controlling games we panic and let them back into it. If some of big the marginal decisions went our way we could be 10 points better off, I think we have rarely taken slices of luck and turned them into wins, and any bad luck and we capitulate. Chance evens itself out, it is how you react when you are presented with fortune, good or bad, that defines the team.
purpleronnie Posted 16 February 2012 Posted 16 February 2012 I really don't believe that. With some of the refs we have had. so you've seen every other team and analyised the ref's performance? 'Luck' or 'bad refereeing' effects all teams, but you only remember the bad decisions.
Jace Posted 16 February 2012 Posted 16 February 2012 We certainly haven't been lucky this season, but to attribute everything to luck is wrong, I do believe you make your own luck, there was good Derren Brown show on luck that pretty much proved that, I think our attitude has been the main factor at first, I think at the start of the season we thought we were too good and couldn't raise ourselves to play, and now we don't think we are good enough and it shows in nerves when we are controlling games we panic and let them back into it. If some of big the marginal decisions went our way we could be 10 points better off, I think we have really taken slices of luck and turned them into wins, and any bad luck and we capitulate. Chance evens it self out, it is how you react when you are presented with fortune, good or bad, that defines the team. Definately agree although it was José Mourinho and Martin O' Neill who taught me that instead of Derren Brown
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 16 February 2012 Posted 16 February 2012 We have been unlucky and then refs have been shit. But they were shit in 2009-10 when we had no luck and made the PO's.
Corky Posted 16 February 2012 Posted 16 February 2012 We have, at times, but we're 12th for a reason, and luck isn't the main reason.
Leicesterpool Posted 16 February 2012 Posted 16 February 2012 The best performance of the season by far was the home game against Derby, we were all over them, Unknown to us Sven wouldn't last the month. Poorest was probably against Millwall, however I still feel the Birmingham away was a sh+t game plus lack off effort from the lads. When we played Hull I was angry that in the last 15 minutes we gave up going for the three points to settle for a draw ,but we had plenty of time to go on and win the game.
foxes2011 Posted 16 February 2012 Posted 16 February 2012 There is a simple answer to this. The answer is no. when you have to start 30 year old midfeilders like wellends, along with the likes of Gallagher, dyer, peltier and st ledger on a regualar basis you cant say were unlucky. Those players are league 1 standard at best. Danns only just made the Palace team last year when they were strugling near the bottom, and the rest are just off form e.g beckford,mills,konchesky, under sven we werent playing king who is our best player by a mile, we have been missing bamba for the last month and we havent got many options. Pearson needs the sumer to sort this mess out and get rid of the deadwood and build his own team.
ithuriel Posted 16 February 2012 Posted 16 February 2012 The team was not good enough, it really is that simple.
Leicesterpool Posted 16 February 2012 Posted 16 February 2012 No We've rarely played at the required level of intensity I can only think of Derby & Brighton at home and Southampton away where the whole team has had the desire to get the extra-mile chase lost causes and receive the ball. Other than that only Kasper & Konch have been good enough, everyone else from Mills, Bamba, SSL, Peltier, Dyer, Wellens, Gally, Beckford haven't done enough 100% of the time. TBH It's a poor show I can't see many being here for the start of next season I just hope we can keep Kasper, Nuge & Konch along the way. Well Kasper is going to be gone in the summer, Tottenham will be looking for a new goalie come summer time as Fridel's is calling it a day. I think a premier league club might fancy Konchesky, can't really see Nuge going anyway so we've still got him. St Ledger I also think we be gone aswell along with Bamba and maybe even Mills. Lloyd Dyer I also think will be on his way to a league one club down the line. So we'll be stuck with Wellens, Howard, Weale, King, Waghorn & Gallagher known of those are any good. I think Heskey's coming by the way, Villa aren't renewing is contract, plus he's hinted a return to Leicester.
Kitchandro Posted 16 February 2012 Posted 16 February 2012 We have been unlucky and then refs have been shit. But they were shit in 2009-10 when we had no luck and made the PO's. Yep. The only season I can remember where we've got luck in was the league 1 season, I wonder why that was? Decisions do not even themselves out and you can say we only remember the bad decisions but if you can remember a handful of important lucky decisions over this and the last few seasons I'd like to hear them, because I could go on forever about the ones we've had go against us.We certainly do generally get more bad luck than good luck. But that's not why we've failed, we've played very poorly on the whole and deserve nothing.
Burmesefox Posted 16 February 2012 Posted 16 February 2012 Having a look at the games in question. Bristol: SSL Loses footing and gives away goal= bad luck? No he shouldn't of been caught in possession and Wellens shouldn't of passed it to him but you know he loves to pass back Here we go with Wellens bashing again, it wasnt him that passed that ball back to SSL - I'm sure that it was Pelts.
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 16 February 2012 Posted 16 February 2012 Yep. The only season I can remember where we've got luck in was the league 1 season, I wonder why that was? Decisions do not even themselves out and you can say we only remember the bad decisions but if you can remember a handful of important lucky decisions over this and the last few seasons I'd like to hear them, because I could go on forever about the ones we've had go against us.We certainly do generally get more bad luck than good luck. But that's not why we've failed, we've played very poorly on the whole and deserve nothing. And another thing...... Can anyone remember the last time we scored a deflected goal, like the Watford one against us? Seem to let a few in but never get luck like that!
Burmesefox Posted 16 February 2012 Posted 16 February 2012 Nothing to do with bad luck - we haven't been good enough. Makes me laugh when fans berate the ref for one poor decision and yet our players make several and we don't pick up on those for the reasons for our shortcomings. Refs have to make decisions on the spot without the hindsight that Sky/BBC etc have of several replays from several angles and in slow motion. 1 ref and 2 linesman officiate a game of football played on a field around 2 acres with 22 players. In tennis they have one umpire and 6 lines judges plus hawkeye officating a game on 1/3 of an acre with 2-4 players............ essentially I wish the whole world would stop bitching about refs - it's a ****ing impossible job!
leicesterisme Posted 16 February 2012 Posted 16 February 2012 How people can blame referees is beyond me, some seem to think were the only side who get shit decisions. Every team gets them, not just us.
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