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Simo86

England Squad to face Holland

By Simo86, in General Football and Sport

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Libertine Dream

Libertine Dream

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Exactly.

Spain produces football and players like this because of centres like La Masia etc etc

Most kids in the age bracket of 10-12 here seem to be coached by idiots from a local pub on a sunday morning, playing on a full sized pitch with the sort of tactics you would find in a Stoke V Bolton game.

There was a fantastic article in the Times about La Masia a year or so ago, no football over head height, passing the football, the result doesnt even matter until the age of 16-17, it's all about the development of the football.

I think I read that article and a similar one on bbc and was amazed at how thorough they are with their youngsters but it then twigged with me that's the way to do it, no wonder we're getting left behind in world football because numerous countries are starting to do the same. They treat football as the culture it is something which is shunned in this country, it really is an art.

I watched some U11s game a couple of weeks ago, the poor kids were knackered by the size of the pitch, the goalkeeper was constantly lobbed and all that came from the touchline was some gentle clapping, nobody was teaching them the game. It's a shame because there were two players that I noticed who had the skills and the presence of mind to go further in football (my opinion) but never will because theyre not taught it correctly. Instead they'll fizzle out at 15 and never play again after 16. Personally I think under the right stewardship, I think a lot of kids who have a spark could make it in the game to a degree, whether they become Messi or an L1 player its about developing the game and changing philosophies.

Tielemans63

Tielemans63

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I think I read that article and a similar one on bbc and was amazed at how thorough they are with their youngsters but it then twigged with me that's the way to do it, no wonder we're getting left behind in world football because numerous countries are starting to do the same. They treat football as the culture it is something which is shunned in this country, it really is an art.

I watched some U11s game a couple of weeks ago, the poor kids were knackered by the size of the pitch, the goalkeeper was constantly lobbed and all that came from the touchline was some gentle clapping, nobody was teaching them the game. It's a shame because there were two players that I noticed who had the skills and the presence of mind to go further in football (my opinion) but never will because theyre not taught it correctly. Instead they'll fizzle out at 15 and never play again after 16. Personally I think under the right stewardship, I think a lot of kids who have a spark could make it in the game to a degree, whether they become Messi or an L1 player its about developing the game and changing philosophies.

Apparently at Ajax, the young players play a match three time a week in which there aren't any goals. They just play at keeping the ball for the longest. Simple but brilliant.

I think I read that article and a similar one on bbc and was amazed at how thorough they are with their youngsters but it then twigged with me that's the way to do it, no wonder we're getting left behind in world football because numerous countries are starting to do the same. They treat football as the culture it is something which is shunned in this country, it really is an art.

I watched some U11s game a couple of weeks ago, the poor kids were knackered by the size of the pitch, the goalkeeper was constantly lobbed and all that came from the touchline was some gentle clapping, nobody was teaching them the game. It's a shame because there were two players that I noticed who had the skills and the presence of mind to go further in football (my opinion) but never will because theyre not taught it correctly. Instead they'll fizzle out at 15 and never play again after 16. Personally I think under the right stewardship, I think a lot of kids who have a spark could make it in the game to a degree, whether they become Messi or an L1 player its about developing the game and changing philosophies.

Apparently at Ajax, the young players play a match three time a week in which there aren't any goals. They just play at keeping the ball for the longest. Simple but brilliant.

ousefox

ousefox

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Team:

Hart

Richards

Cahill

Smalling

Baines

Johnson

Parker

Gerrard

Barry

Young

Welbeck

Is Cole injured or something? He should easily come above Baines, even if he is a dickhead he's a quality player. That is exactly the sort of team i'd like to see in the finals though definitely.

Langston

Langston

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Is Cole injured or something? He should easily come above Baines, even if he is a dickhead he's a quality player. That is exactly the sort of team i'd like to see in the finals though definitely.

Ever thought that Pearce might be casting his eye over one or two players now while we're only doing friendlies? To gauge who to take to the Euros and who to leave at home? Just a thought, like.

Guest shearfox

Guest shearfox

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Parker is captain for tonight.

Good decision.

Maybe Redknapp had a word with Pearce before he takes the job at the end of the season...

Guest BlueBrett

Guest BlueBrett

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Hart

Richards

Cahill

Smalling

Baines

Johnson

Parker

Gerrard

Barry

Young

Welbeck

7 players who don't even start regularly for their clubs :unsure:

Bert

Bert

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7 players who don't even start regularly for their clubs :unsure:

I count two....

Guest BlueBrett

Guest BlueBrett

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I count two....

Richards has been left out last 3 weeks and hasn't been injured. Cahill has started once for Chelsea in the league. Smalling hasn't featured recently. Johnson and Young don't start every week - nor does Barry and Welbeck completes the 7.

vandamman

vandamman

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I think I read that article and a similar one on bbc and was amazed at how thorough they are with their youngsters but it then twigged with me that's the way to do it, no wonder we're getting left behind in world football because numerous countries are starting to do the same. They treat football as the culture it is something which is shunned in this country, it really is an art.

I watched some U11s game a couple of weeks ago, the poor kids were knackered by the size of the pitch, the goalkeeper was constantly lobbed and all that came from the touchline was some gentle clapping, nobody was teaching them the game. It's a shame because there were two players that I noticed who had the skills and the presence of mind to go further in football (my opinion) but never will because theyre not taught it correctly. Instead they'll fizzle out at 15 and never play again after 16. Personally I think under the right stewardship, I think a lot of kids who have a spark could make it in the game to a degree, whether they become Messi or an L1 player its about developing the game and changing philosophies.

My little bro has been playing since he was little, he is 15 now and I think at times he see's going to training/matches as a duty rather than actually enjoying it which is a real shame.

I accept not all junior football clubs can be like le masia but some of the coaches albeit selfless for giving up their time are just mad; hellbent on winning, shouting at kids and generally sucking all life out of the game. Add to that the pushy and rediculous parents, I think the lads are just growing up in the wrong environment.

I played rugby growing up and now hockey, never had bad experiences with coaching and experiences in either sports.

StanSP

StanSP

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Richards has been left out last 3 weeks and hasn't been injured. Cahill has started once for Chelsea in the league. Smalling hasn't featured recently. Johnson and Young don't start every week - nor does Barry and Welbeck completes the 7.

Out of Man City's last 13 games (taking them all the way back to the start of January, Barry has started every game but 2 - one through suspension (vs Man Utd in the FA Cup) and the latest being just this weekend. So I'd say he does play/start pretty regularly.

Young's only just come back from injury - his first appearance back was just 2-3 weeks ago vs Chelsea after a long-term injury, so he's not expected to start every single game.

Guest BlueBrett

Guest BlueBrett

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Out of Man City's last 13 games (taking them all the way back to the start of January, Barry has started every game but 2 - one through suspension (vs Man Utd in the FA Cup) and the latest being just this weekend. So I'd say he does play/start pretty regularly.

Young's only just come back from injury - his first appearance back was just 2-3 weeks ago vs Chelsea after a long-term injury, so he's not expected to start every single game.

Fair enough with Young although he really hasn't had any form at all this season. Barry will play less and less now Ya is back. He usually does a good job for England but we'll never win anything while players like him can get in the side.

Guest shearfox

Guest shearfox

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Richards has been left out last 3 weeks and hasn't been injured. Cahill has started once for Chelsea in the league. Smalling hasn't featured recently. Johnson and Young don't start every week - nor does Barry and Welbeck completes the 7.

Cahill only just come into the Chelsea team, started enough games this season to be considered a starter (albeit most for Bolton), same with Richards. Young is only just back from injury.

Only because a player doesn't feature for a few games recently doesn't mean they aren't first team regulars!

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