21st Century Fox Posted 18 March 2012 Posted 18 March 2012 What about the clubs that would be denied a place in the Football League to accommodate them are people happy to see them kept out and possible disappear through trying to survive in non-league football? Absolutely this! I'm sure Sky will have the final say though, the Premier League's puppet master.
Gold Coast Fox Posted 18 March 2012 Posted 18 March 2012 So they want independence but they want their teams to join out league? They can do one. Stay out of our league, stay out of our leagueeee... you Scottish b*******, stay out of our league.
MPH Posted 19 March 2012 Posted 19 March 2012 I would be absolutely against this..... Yet if we allow welsh teams in the football league on what basis can we object to Scottish teams?
Finnegan Posted 19 March 2012 Posted 19 March 2012 Definitely, if only for the reactions of Matt, Stu and Mack.
The Doctor Posted 19 March 2012 Posted 19 March 2012 Definitely, if only for the reactions of Matt, Stu and Mack. I didn't think of that. Get it done FA, get it done now.
Guest Bilo Posted 19 March 2012 Posted 19 March 2012 Cardiff, Swansea, Wrexham etc are a completely different case. They joined the Football League before there was a Welsh league, so there are no grounds to say their place in the English game is illegitimate. Celtic and Rangers would have to leave an establsihed league of which they have been members for well over 100 years.
Daggers Posted 19 March 2012 Posted 19 March 2012 Celtic - absolutely Rangers - they can go fùck themselves
accessory Posted 19 March 2012 Posted 19 March 2012 Won't ever happen. 1) Neither FIFA nor UEFA would sanction the move. 2) Neither the Premier League nor the Football League will be prepared to kick clubs out to let either or both of them in. 3) Plod won't take kindly towards overseeing Sinn Fein/EDL rallies on a regular basis.
The Doctor Posted 19 March 2012 Posted 19 March 2012 Won't ever happen. 1) Neither FIFA nor UEFA would sanction the move. 2) Neither the Premier League nor the Football League will be prepared to kick clubs out to let either or both of them in. 3) Plod won't take kindly towards overseeing Sinn Fein/EDL rallies on a regular basis. Yep, because if Celtic get into this league system then Sinn Fein are gonna start rocking up every week and spouting off their shit. Oh and the whole, not prepared to kick clubs out stuff - the **** you been smoking? The money to be raked in by a quintessential British team, and an Irish-themed team in a world renowned league would convince the PL (or rather, convince SKY to tell the PL to do it) no problem.
accessory Posted 19 March 2012 Posted 19 March 2012 Yep, because if Celtic get into this league system then Sinn Fein are gonna start rocking up every week and spouting off their shit. It's well known that elements of Celtic's travelling support get off on pro-Provo chants - as indeed they've done on their two visits to Leicester. In many cities, there are plenty of numskulls willing to respond to that type of "provocation", whether at football matches or elsewhere. Oh and the whole, not prepared to kick clubs out stuff - the **** you been smoking? The money to be raked in by a quintessential British team, and an Irish-themed team in a world renowned league would convince the PL (or rather, convince SKY to tell the PL to do it) no problem. If money really had that much power, we'd have had a European league years ago. The prospect of clubs switching allegiances would open up so many cans of worms that no footballing authority would ever sanction it.
General Smuts Posted 19 March 2012 Posted 19 March 2012 What about the clubs that would be denied a place in the Football League to accommodate them are people happy to see them kept out and possible disappear through trying to survive in non-league football? That could easily be gotten around by adding an extra place in one of the leagues - probably the premier league with it having the least number of teams at the moment. Celtic - absolutely Rangers - they can go fùck themselves Spot on.
NeilyBoy Posted 19 March 2012 Posted 19 March 2012 Fvck off. I've no problem with the Welsh teams in the football league system because let's face it: Wales hasn't exactly forged an identity for itself in footballing terms and I doubt the likes of Cardiff or Swansea would ever have become as well known to us as they are if they'd been isolated to the highly anonymous Welsh leagues. The old-firm are a different story altogether and after dominating Scottish football for so long, Celtic can't simply jump ship because their closest rival's financial mismanagement has endangered their own pockets despite the fact that Celtic & Rangers make a much tidier sum than the other Scottish clubs. They should instead be engaging the other Scottish clubs in negotiations on how to keep the Scottish league's status up and try to undo the damage done by the old-firm's past form of self-preservation at the cost of the rest of the league.
Guest MattP Posted 19 March 2012 Posted 19 March 2012 Celtic - absolutely Rangers - they can go fùck themselves Yeah. Fcuk songs about the UDA, we can only have IRA glorification in British Grounds. The original question, both can fcuk off to be quite frank, I'm not sacrificing two English clubs so these can join this league.
purpleronnie Posted 19 March 2012 Posted 19 March 2012 Celtic - absolutely Rangers - they can go fùck themselves this.
Guest MattP Posted 19 March 2012 Posted 19 March 2012 Can you imagine what this would be like for us with the Corby Rangers Club (the biggest Rangers supporters club in the world outside of Glasgow) just 25 mins down the road......
Jay Posted 19 March 2012 Posted 19 March 2012 allowing any team regardless of it being rangers, celtic or Grantham town an automatic place in the football league would totally destroy the entire league system in this country, many teams spend a great deal of time, effort and money to progress through the league system and nobody should have an automatic right to jump the ladder. Allowing teams to join like this would be one step away from franchising football clubs which would be the final nail in the coffin for football in this country
purpleronnie Posted 19 March 2012 Posted 19 March 2012 allowing any team regardless of it being rangers, celtic or Grantham town an automatic place in the football league would totally destroy the entire league system in this country, many teams spend a great deal of time, effort and money to progress through the league system and nobody should have an automatic right to jump the ladder. Allowing teams to join like this would be one step away from franchising football clubs which would be the final nail in the coffin for football in this country Like MK dons.
MPH Posted 19 March 2012 Posted 19 March 2012 Cardiff, Swansea, Wrexham etc are a completely different case. They joined the Football League before there was a Welsh league, so there are no grounds to say their place in the English game is illegitimate. Celtic and Rangers would have to leave an establsihed league of which they have been members for well over 100 years. well if thats your argument, now that there are welsh leagues those welsh teams should go join them then, shouldnt they?
ScouseFox Posted 19 March 2012 Posted 19 March 2012 If they want to start in the northern premier whatever division, I guess I could live with that. Still wouldn't be too keen, mind.
purpleronnie Posted 19 March 2012 Posted 19 March 2012 The Football League chairman, Greg Clarke, has ruled out any chance of Celtic joining League One or the Championship. A report yesterday claimed the Old Firm giant was so keen to join English football that they were in talks over a move into League One. However, sources at the club have insisted that is not the case and Clarke himself said it would be "disrespectful" to the Scottish football authorities to enter into any such talks. "We have absolutely no intention of having any discussions with any club from another national league regarding membership of our competition," said Clarke. "This would be highly disrespectful to the Scottish FA and Scottish Premier League and will not be countenanced by the Football League."
Guest Bilo Posted 19 March 2012 Posted 19 March 2012 well if thats your argument, now that there are welsh leagues those welsh teams should go join them then, shouldnt they? No, because Cardiff and Swansea are established in our league system now. Rangers and Celtic have never been part of the English league system because they've always been part of the Scottish league system.
Out Foxed Posted 19 March 2012 Posted 19 March 2012 the new financial rules should level the SPL back out and make it more competitive. unfortunately there's just no tv money to improve the quality of the league.
AyewJoking Posted 19 March 2012 Posted 19 March 2012 Well, I'm sure a European super league isnt too far away so maybe they can apply to be in an all new British football league or something.
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