Financial Fairplay Starts In Coming Season

[Guesty]

like i said ,please LOOK at a job description of a director of football . i have , i am right .of course theres a budget but was their a budget for individual signings ? i doubt it dont you ? he's a director of football because of the thais inexperience in the game . if you LOOKED like i thought you might .you'd see that . yes he is answerable to the board but he's definitely there to guide the board due to their lack of knowledge in football but not business . FACT ! do you want me to email my source so you can see ?

He won't be making the decisions I wouldn't have thought. He will do the nitty gritty, like negotiating. But it won't be his decision how much they spend. He will do his best then go to the Thais or the manager and go look this is the best we can get. Then it's there job to sanction the transfer or say no he ain't worth it.

Some DoF's do have more power, but I doubt he does. Not all jobs with the same title have exactly the same job description.

[Babylon]

like i said ,please LOOK at a job description of a director of football . i have , i am right .of course theres a budget but was their a budget for individual signings ? i doubt it dont you ? he's a director of football because of the thais inexperience in the game . if you LOOKED like i thought you might .you'd see that . yes he is answerable to the board but he's definitely there to guide the board due to their lack of knowledge in football but not business . FACT ! do you want me to email my source so you can see ?

You've downloaded a job description for DOF and you think it explains exactly the role of what Andrew Neville does and what he does and doesn't decide?

[Guest ttfn]

You've downloaded a job description for DOF and you think it explains exactly the role of what Andrew Neville does and what he does and doesn't decide?

Amazingly condescending given the poster's obvious ignorance.

A job title means nothing. Different clubs will use Directors of Football in different ways...

[mrmagoomc4]

not happy about this as it defo rules out a bid for mesi then

[Jace]

Don't worry guys I have heard a rumour Topps Tiles are looking to return with a 50 million over 2 years sponsorship package

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#Saintsfc revealed as one of the 3 Championship clubs who voted against the new Financial Fair Play rules. Leicester & Reading the others

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#Saintsfc revealed as one of the 3 Championship clubs who voted against the new Financial Fair Play rules. Leicester & Reading the others

Saints have rich owners, Reading are about to be taken over by Russian billionaires

Did West Ham not vote?

[Tielemans63]

I'm all for this, it's well overdue. I just hope the FIFA FairPlay initiative starts to rein in some of the top tier clubs too.

It'll also means we can't throw money at it like we did last summer - a proper transfer policy will benefit the club hugely.

[RowZ]

At least it will get the highest earners off the bill.

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Oh oh.

I do hope that includes Pearson on his £1m package - if it doesn't, why not?

[brockmyster]

Cant believe that west ham voted for the proposal seeing as theyre one of the worst offenders.

[RedHux]

They clearly think they won't be in this league long enough for it to effect them and relegated teams won't be affected either.

[cc_star]

I do hope that includes Pearson on his £1m package - if it doesn't, why not?

You know the details of Pearson's package?

Then I assume you know it was heavily loaded with bonuses for promotion which would make up a large part of the paper-talk figures being bandied around

Regardless of what it is, the owners are already ahead of you in reducing the manager's liability though; Sven's package was £3m for the 2 year contract... not to be too bad for what turned out to be just a year's work, but then again Sven has specialised in making money from being sacked for the past decade.

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Why should Southampton and Reading be bothered? Neither of them will be in this league next year..

Even if they came straight back down again, the parachute payments from the Premier League will give them a massive advantage.

The immediate consequence will be an increase in loan deals. In our case this will involve players going out (probably Mills, maybe Beckford and Konchesky too as they're among the highest-paid) and younger players coming in.

[Mack]

If we get promoted next season we wont have to worry about this bollocks.

[Captain...]

You're just trying to convince yourself

"The players still carry, or have increased in market value from what we bought them for, unless FFP drives down transfer fees, in which case we could be looking at large losses on these players."

So which is it greater value or big losses?

"I maintain the spending wasn't reckless but a calculated gamble"

Reckless or gamble, not a lot of difference for me it was reckless of them to gamble on the chance of being promoted especially when they knew the FFP was imminent, you have your view and I have mine, I'll stick with reckless.

Very happy, the funding of clubs through business loans is immoral and had to stop.

Captain S you are a great poster but I can't go with you on this, blowing over 50million odd in just 18 months in a second tier is ridiculous and reckless, not a calculated gamble.

The gamble was spending 50million to make 90million (the average increase in revenue when you reach the PL) and the odds we were getting on promotion this season it seemed like a good gamble.

When I said: "The players still carry, or have increased in market value from what we bought them for, unless FFP drives down transfer fees, in which case we could be looking at large losses on these players."

I mean that Nugent, Danns, are obviously worth more than we paid for them as we got them for free.

Schmeichel we got for 1 million, he is clearly worth more than that in the current market.

A number of our other signings I would say have increased in value based on the current market, Bamba, Marshall, definitely so, Drinkwater will, Peltier and SSL, certainly were value for money as was Morgan. Beckford at 2.5 million, we could easily get that and more for him.

Apart from Mills, we spent sensibly, just over a large number of deals.

The second part was speculating on the effect of FFP, if it drives down transfer prices then we will lose out massively on these players, as will every other club, but it is a concern with the new rules.

[MrSpaM]

Time to make a new football club, call it Leicester Loanees united, then we can sell them our high earners for however much we want, and then get them to loan them back to us for free for the rest of the season. Wont matter how much we've sold them for, it'l still all be profit, and the financial fair play rules wont apply to them because they wont be in the championship.

Problem solved!

Point i'm getting at is, whats stopping any club setting up some random pub team, lending them x amount of millions to buy players, and then just getting them to loan you the players for the season?

[Lambert09]

Cant we just make investor seats in the stadium, which we price at a few million a pop and top and his friends can buy them. That would level the books

[Guest Col city fan]

we're doomed. it's gonna be hard to clear out players when no1 else in the division can afford to buy them. no1 in the prem will want them and i don't see any big clubs on the continent scouting matt mills etc.

This....

Could be a major problem

[m00nie]

No mass summer signings, Leicester City boss Nigel Pearson

Leicester City boss Nigel Pearson has promised changes during the summer – but not wholesale signings on the scale of last year.

Pearson says he knows exactly what is needed to be done this summer to turn City into promotion challengers next season.

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Leicester City boss Nigel Pearson

He said he did not expect the City squad that starts the next campaign to be massively different from the one that has under-performed this season.

But he said he would be making changes and had already drawn-up his plan.

City have one game left, away at Leeds on Saturday, and Pearson said the work towards next season had already begun.

"We are looking forward now to preparations for next season, so although we still have a game to go, this final game is very much a part of moving forward," he said.

"I am very clear in my mind how we do move forward and what is needed, so it is really a case of now seeing the season out on the training field and on the pitch at Leeds in the right way. That is when the hard work really starts.

"I think when anyone associated with Leicester looks back on the season there have been times when you can look back and say 'if only'.

"Let's not kid ourselves, we are in the position we are because of our shortcomings and my job is to rectify that.

"During the course of the season, we have not done enough to earn the right to be in the play-offs.

"That is my remit to rectify that, and I will be working hard to do that in the summer."

Pearson said there may be more trading this summer, but not the swathe of new signings seen last summer.

City have to look to balance the books better ahead of the introduction of the Financial Fair Play rules, which are designed to encourage clubs to operate within their revenues.

These measures will be implemented over a three-year period, with the break-even assessment covering the financial years ending 2012 and 2013 assessed during 2013-14.

"I don't see massive changes necessarily, but I think it is important that we do make some changes," said Pearson.

"I am not presuming the money spent last year will be available this year. There will be a little more trading done because the financial fair play will have impact on clubs."

http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/mass-summer-signings-Leicester-City-boss-Nigel/story-15920059-detail/story.html

[Raw Dykes]

This....

Could be a major problem

It definitely could, but I don't think it will be as difficult as some people think. One option would be to offer to top up the wages of the highest paid players if they leave. For example, we might be able to loan out or sell Matt Mills to a club that's willing to pay him about £20k a week, and pay him the other £10k ourselves. It does seem like a lot to pay someone else's player, but we'd still be getting the bulk of his wages off our bill.

[Guest Col city fan]

It definitely could, but I don't think it will be as difficult as some people think. One option would be to offer to top up the wages of the highest paid players if they leave. For example, we might be able to loan out or sell Matt Mills to a club that's willing to pay him about £20k a week, and pay him the other £10k ourselves. It does seem like a lot to pay someone else's player, but we'd still be getting the bulk of his wages off our bill.

In principle mate yes this could be done.

But every team will be in the same boat.

Can you see any Championship team wanting to pay 20k a week on a player who has, for whatever reason, been languishing in the reserves for months?

I would suggest that only a prem club might make an offer for Mills, given this scenario.

And he's not good enough for the Prem.

[Raw Dykes]

In principle mate yes this could be done.

But every team will be in the same boat.

Can you see any Championship team wanting to pay 20k a week on a player who has, for whatever reason, been languishing in the reserves for months?

I would suggest that only a prem club might make an offer for Mills, given this scenario.

And he's not good enough for the Prem.

That is a good point.

I suppose another option would be to loan them out short-term, without asking for much contribution towards their wages, just to get them in the shop window and to show other clubs that they have got ability, it's just that they're misfits at this particular club. If it works there'll be more clubs after them, and their value will rise. If it doesn't work, loan them out short-term somewhere else instead to try again.

[DB11]

Not read five pages, but anyone saying that we can get round it by the Thai's doing a shirt sponsorship deal, well, we won't have to pay that money back will we so it'd be the Thai's giving us actual money. What's wrong with that?

[reynard]

I think there are some major concerns here. The gap between the premiership and the rest has just got even bigger. According to today's Times the TV money for next season will fall by 27%. Until this vast discrepancy between how the premiership and the rest of football is sorted out then this gap will just get wider and wider. This will do nothing to help that.

Unfortunately I see the following being possible.

1 There will be more loan players in each side and they will have to be mainly paid by their parent club and there will be very few "within an option to buy" clauses. These players have little loyalty to their loan clubs or their spectators.

2 To raise revenue season ticket prices and match day prices will have to be increased in the hope that fans will stay loyal. For smaller clubs this will be one of their main income streams.

3 Clubs will not be able to attract better quality players because they won't be able to pay the wages or the transfer fees.

4 Smaller clubs will just have to sell their better players on a constant basis just to survive.

5 The relegated clubs from the premiership will have an even greater advantage than they currently have due to extended parachute payments.

6 It will become even harder for promoted sides to the premiership to survive because they will be starting from an even lower base than they are now doing.

7 Eventually it is possible the premier league will stop relegation due to the constant failure of sides to maintain status once promoted. (unlikely perhaps but it has already been raised)

8 Aspiration becomes a thing of the past for smaller clubs who simply can't raise the revenue to do more than survive in the league. The clubs with the biggest fan bases and the biggest stadiums will become stronger at the expense of smaller clubs.

9 Squads will have to become fewer in number. Young players may end up being discarded earlier in their careers in order for clubs to stay within the financial rules where every pound will count.

10 Reduced squad numbers leads to a move from smaller clubs to reduce the number of subs in a match down to 3.

What is the situation on wages for non playing staff? Do these count? If so then I would expect redundancies in these numbers.

I acknowledge that something has to be done but the reality is that the whole of football in this country is awash with money it is the distribution of this money which is the problem and until radical solutions to this are produced then for all outside the premier league the future looks tough.

[Guesty]

Stringer was talking to some bloke on the radio today and he said the punishments won't be implimented for 2 years (Or something along those lines). So we don't have to much worry about yet. Of course if teams know we are in the shit in 2 years time they will be able to get our players on the cheap because they know we have to shift them.