Why we should all be worried.

[seenitall]

Yes!

Credit to teams like Derby who have kept their manager depsite being average at times

This

[ADK]

Can you get any more sand in those nostrils of yours?

Where was this quality football against Forest, Burnley or West Ham? Or in most of our recent away games?

When would you say we have been stronger then?

[MattyFromLE]

In a massive bag.

Pointless conversation.

If you think that getting rid of Pearson is the answer then you are a modern type of football supporter. Consistency and long term goals have no place, you want instant success and nothing else. If it doesnt come then make a change.

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that point of view as there are examples where this sort of thing has worked.

I however am sick of all the changes and wouldnt mind having the same manager for at least 3 seasons in a row. There are more examples of success following stability than the former argument.

There, somebody said it. The "modern" fans want/expect this big money, big name signings, and their well known famous managers. Where teams spend big and start winning games instantly. But, that isn't Leicester City is it? We've always been the underdogs, and always thrived under it. I personally, love being the underdogs, i love it when "smaller" teams make the big boys slip up and under Pearson, this never say die attitude we had under MoN will come back.

Where's the optimism bus?

[accessory]

In a massive bag.

Pointless conversation.

If you think that getting rid of Pearson is the answer then you are a modern type of football supporter. Consistency and long term goals have no place, you want instant success and nothing else. If it doesnt come then make a change.

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that point of view as there are examples where this sort of thing has worked.

I however am sick of all the changes and wouldnt mind having the same manager for at least 3 seasons in a row. There are more examples of success following stability than the former argument.

We've spent EIGHT YEARS out of the top flight. Thousands of fans have already walked away. Others look likely to join them in the next few weeks. Can you really see season ticket sales being anywhere near the level they were last year?

If there was any evidence of progress being made, then you could put forward a legitimate argument to give the manager a little more time. But there isn't and you can't.

The club's owners did not come halfway around the world to pour millions into a side which spinelessly capitulates, season after season, at hovels like Millwall, Bristol City and Watford. They are entitled to expect better, and so are we.

But while this manager is hell-bent on persisting with the same failed players (some on Premier League salaries unsustainable in our position) and the same failed tactics, any grounds for optimism are extremely unstable.

[cc_star]

Can you get any more sand in those nostrils of yours?

Where was this quality football against Forest, Burnley or West Ham? Or in most of our recent away games?

Forest came & parked the bus... It happens, we had to make many changes in midfield as Danns was stupidly suspended and Wellens was injured, on another day our pressure would have told, or if we had a forward who could convert them & we could have beat them 3-0

Burnley was a game we should have done better in, I just don't think we played with the required intensity, too many players didn't put a shift in.

West Ham... We were forced to make 2 early changes through injuries, we matched them in the first half and it was pretty end to end, but thanks to the earlier enforced changes & playing with a patched together midfield we couldn't make positive sub later on, NP has said he wanted to bring Vassell on, but couldn't... think we'd have benefited from him running at defence later in the game.

[Filberts Treat]

Boring hell

[Bettsj2]

We've spent EIGHT YEARS out of the top flight. Thousands of fans have already walked away. Others look likely to join them in the next few weeks. Can you really see season ticket sales being anywhere near the level they were last year?

If there was any evidence of progress being made, then you could put forward a legitimate argument to give the manager a little more time. But there isn't and you can't.

The club's owners did not come halfway around the world to pour millions into a side which spinelessly capitulates, season after season, at hovels like Millwall, Bristol City and Watford. They are entitled to expect better, and so are we.

But while this manager is hell-bent on persisting with the same failed players (some on Premier League salaries unsustainable in our position) and the same failed tactics, any grounds for optimism are extrey unstable.

If you want a legitimate argument for why NP should stay in charge let me ask you a question.

In 8 seasons out of the top flight, how many managers have been in charge for more than 2 seasons?

Instability leads to a lack of success. In that 8 seasons out of the top flight, the closest we've come to success is when NP was in charge for two seasons. Promotion from League 1 and then a play off campaign the following seasons. The problems have come back since he was sacked.

[Mark_w]

Boring Anti-Pearson Bollocks

Mate you need to get a grip not Nigel Pearson. If you think the current manager of the club is the thing we 'Should all be worried about' then you obviously haven't been paying attention to the amount of debt we are in or the position we would be in if the owners leave. Nigel got us promoted from League One (Plenty of sides have failed to do so), got a poor side into the Championship play-offs, and so far has brought in some good new players as well as getting some better performances out of many of Sven's signings. Some of it has been dissapointing, but given his history with us and the players he has brought in we should all be excited about what we can do next season if he is allowed to make dealings in the transfer window, epsecially as part of his plan appears to be drastically reducing the wage bill. If Nigel being are manager is the 'Thing we should all be worried about' then we're a very, very lucky set of fans.

[flowwolf]

I'd agree with this.....

Unfortunately mate, its just people that are too bored and just love a good moan cos work is sh*t or they thrive on moaning

Or option 3 they tell it like it is.

[accessory]

Mate you need to get a grip not Nigel Pearson. If you think the current manager of the club is the thing we 'Should all be worried about' then you obviously haven't been paying attention to the amount of debt we are in or the position we would be in if the owners leave. Nigel got us promoted from League One (Plenty of sides have failed to do so), got a poor side into the Championship play-offs, and so far has brought in some good new players as well as getting some better performances out of many of Sven's signings. Some of it has been dissapointing, but given his history with us and the players he has brought in we should all be excited about what we can do next season if he is allowed to make dealings in the transfer window, epsecially as part of his plan appears to be drastically reducing the wage bill. If Nigel being are manager is the 'Thing we should all be worried about' then we're a very, very lucky set of fans.

Yet again, literacy and logic go hand-in-hand on these boards..

Reducing the wage bill means no depth in the squad - a key failing which stopped Hull from reaching the playoffs this season, and one of our most evident current flaws.

The side Pearson manages now is far different from the one he had two years ago, which was heavily reliant on loan players. Some of the key players from that side have either moved on or lost form.

In a league where even Ian Holloway can guide a team into the playoffs TWICE in separate seasons, Pearson's struggles should indeed be a cause for concern.

He has underachieved with the players that he had, and seems likely to continue doing so.

[Mark_w]

Yet again, literacy and logic go hand-in-hand on these boards..

Who cares, really?

Reducing the wage bill means no depth in the squad - a key failing which stopped Hull from reaching the playoffs this season, and one of our most evident current flaws.

The side Pearson manages now is far different from the one he had two years ago, which was heavily reliant on loan players. Some of the key players from that side have either moved on or lost form.

When Pearson left Hull they where well placed for promotion so that isn't a reasonable arguement. And how he constructed the squad is irrelevent the fact is that he did and we finished 5th, it's not like loans are no longer allowed, given the summer we stand a very good chance of yet again constrructing a squad that can challenge for the play-offs. Most of the players who have left that squad have performed at a lower level because Nigel got more out of them than Sousa, Sven or most other managers could. His achievments first time round where fantastic, managers don't become awful overnight.

[seenitall]

Who cares, really?

When Pearson left Hull they where well placed for promotion so that isn't a reasonable arguement. And how he constructed the squad is irrelevent the fact is that he did and we finished 5th, it's not like loans are no longer allowed, given the summer we stand a very good chance of yet again constrructing a squad that can challenge for the play-offs. Most of the players who have left that squad have performed at a lower level because Nigel got more out of them than Sousa, Sven or most other managers could. His achievments first time round where fantastic, managers don't become awful overnight.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh - No. They. Were. Not. - Southampton and West ham were well placed, Hull were hovering around the bottom end of the play off places after 18 months of Nige - it wasn't his fault and he will be a lot better here but they were not well placed

[Tielemans63]

Has the season been a disappointment? Yes. Has it been a disaster? No it hasn't. You should look up the word disaster in the dictionary.

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

Yet another attack on Pearson

Any reason for not putting it in the 1,067 suitable threads, from the number of threads you'd have thought the vocal minority was an over-whelming majority.

Your last few paragraphs of criticism especially harping on about Pearson having no clue because he picked some players you don't like... takes no account of enforced changes through stupid suspension & injuries, which derailed our little revival and any chance of clawing back the deficit.

Despite all that, and it being far from good enough, the table over the past 3 months has us sitting in 6th... and if we stretch it further back to the turn of the year it's 7th, so yes it's a poor situation and like I say far from what was expected, littered with sub-par performances but it's still better than it was, and with the right man in charge through the summer signing the right sort of players, not just 'names' to sell shirts in some far-flung duty free shop & we'll be far more competitive next time around.

the reason I think that, is the NP has already strengthened the Gally/Wellens duo with Marshall & Drinkwater & he seems to have identified Cameron Stewart to strengthen the opposite wing to Marshall. Danns was a preferred NP player too until he let everyone down.

My only concern was sticking by Beckford for so long, although it seems we're interested in signing another forward so there should be more serious competition next time around.

I think more so than starting again, NP knows all the weak points and he is the man to fix them, but importantly this time in a sustainable fashion

Aaaaaaaahhhhhh!

[LCFC_FAN_1995]

Pearson obviously has no clue, which was unfortunately proved with his selection of the midfield for the recent match at the 'new' lions den - Wellens, King and Gallagher together - Pillock! That was a match we had to win!

We played them because you always keep a winning team which he did, who would of you had in the midfield against Millwall?

I am not worried at all with Pearson in charge.

[Jace]

I love how there must be at least 10 people on this forum who all they ever seem to do is bash Pearson yet not 1 of them ever provides the name of a suitable replacement

[Legend_in_blue]

Why is the criticism aimed at Pearson?

The players have consistently underperformed. The players have been hopeless, this is not Pearson's fault.

[Legend_in_blue]

"significant developments to the squad" as Pearson has said today.

In other words, get rid of the hopeless players.

To all you Pearson out numpties, if it doesn't work then criticise, but doing so now achieves nothing.

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

Why is the criticism aimed at Pearson?

The players have consistently underperformed. The players have been hopeless, this is not Pearson's fault.

So he earns a million quid a year, and takes no responsibility for our poor form, eh? Don't be so daft!

[Kitchandro]

Not that I'm in the Pearson out brigade, nor have I even bothered to read the first post but:

Disaster - '2. a thing, project, etc, that fails or has been ruined'

I'd say this season's project has failed. It couldn't have gone much worse. Spending around £10-15m and not even getting close to the play-offs is a disaster in footballing terms.

[Babylon]

Why is the criticism aimed at Pearson?

The players have consistently underperformed. The players have been hopeless, this is not Pearson's fault.

It's not that he shouldn't take SOME of the blame, of course he should. But there are and were several other parties involved who also need to take a fair share of it. Which is something certain people fail to accept.

[MrSpaM]

read about the first two lines

[Dan]

Pearson's done more to address that problem in the midfield than Sven has.

I agree but to single out Pearson, Sven had it sooooooo much easier than Pearson's ever had it here and Sven's never out-done him for us, so why oh why people want that clown over Pearson is beyond me.

If Pearson thinks he knows what'll get us out of this division, then let him have a proper go, rather than a 6 month fix with someone elses indisciplined, over-rated squad.

My only judgment/criticism of Pearson is that he's no miracle worker, and has also failed with this group of players. Something that doesn't surprise me, even of a manager I have huge respect for.

[Legend_in_blue]

So he earns a million quid a year, and takes no responsibility for our poor form, eh? Don't be so daft!

No, he can't.

The players simply are not good enough.

You can't turn round and tell me that is Pearson's fault. The squad assembled under our previous world class manager had a huge say so on that one. Though World class ? More like world chump.

[Guest ttfn]

Only bothered reading the title so I presume this is (finally) a thread about manbearpig?