MPH Posted 9 October 2012 Posted 9 October 2012 I don't want people to still be learning. We need players who can do the business now. Vardy is 25/26 years old. He should have learnt his trade by now and holding the other strikers hand is not part of that. He won't get above 10 league goals imo and being subbed 5 mins after half time on Sat had nothing to do with being tired, he's rubbish and Pearson knows it. So Pearson has been picking then to save face as he was one of his signings? ah ok. Get ya,
MattyFromLE Posted 9 October 2012 Posted 9 October 2012 I don't want people to still be learning. We need players who can do the business now. Vardy is 25/26 years old. He should have learnt his trade by now and holding the other strikers hand is not part of that. He won't get above 10 league goals imo and being subbed 5 mins after half time on Sat had nothing to do with being tired, he's rubbish and Pearson knows it. If Vardy could do everything he has meant to have "learnt" he would not be playing for us. Same as if Dyer could cross/pass/and shoot with precision then he'd be playing in the premiership no doubt.
NewburyFox Posted 9 October 2012 Posted 9 October 2012 I don't want people to still be learning. We need players who can do the business now. Vardy is 25/26 years old. He should have learnt his trade by now and holding the other strikers hand is not part of that. He won't get above 10 league goals imo and being subbed 5 mins after half time on Sat had nothing to do with being tired, he's rubbish and Pearson knows it. Interesting comment. He's scored 3 goals in 10 league games so far, so that's a goal every 3.3 games. Assuming he plays every game this season (which he won't, but it doesn't matter), at his current rate, he'll score 13.9 goals, 13 to round it down. So why will he not get above 10 league goals? He needs to work on his first touch and his finishing, but he works extremely hard and creates chances for others. He's obviously a bit tired at the moment and needs a rest, but I have no problem with him starting with Nugent.
indierich06 Posted 9 October 2012 Posted 9 October 2012 I don't want people to still be learning. We need players who can do the business now. Vardy is 25/26 years old. He should have learnt his trade by now and holding the other strikers hand is not part of that. He won't get above 10 league goals imo and being subbed 5 mins after half time on Sat had nothing to do with being tired, he's rubbish and Pearson knows it. Jesus Christ. There's always one twat isn't there? The lad was playing non-league last season! He's already scored three goals and he's got a few assists and he's creating loads of chances for himself - the goals will come. If he continues scoring at his current rate he'll score at least 10 this season and I think he'll better this too - I thought his main problem would be getting into goalscoring positions, but he does that all the time - he proved at Fleetwood he can finish, he just needs to go on a bit of a run to get his confidence up. He's a hard worker and he wants to play for this club - that's more than you can say for some of the absolute dross we've had on the books in recent seasons. I will bet you a tenner right now that - barring some kind of ridiculous injury - Vardy will score at least ten goals this season.
Jace Posted 9 October 2012 Posted 9 October 2012 Jeez, I thought I could be negative but credit where its due, City are flying You know when your thread is in deep **** when seenitall sees things in a more positive view
Mack Posted 9 October 2012 Posted 9 October 2012 Vardy is one of those who will please the fans that are ok with anyone who works themselves in to the ground in the name of the cause. I wont pass my judgement yet, but so far he looks like an eager league one player.
DifferentViewOnFootball Posted 9 October 2012 Posted 9 October 2012 Alright Micky Adams. Drinkwater, Marshall, Knockaert, De Laet, Moore, James are all learning should we not use them as well. No, they have been playing well, Vardy hasn't.
Bettsj2 Posted 9 October 2012 Posted 9 October 2012 No, they have been playing well, Vardy hasn't. Yes he has.
casablancas Posted 9 October 2012 Posted 9 October 2012 No, they have been playing well, Vardy hasn't. Stats don't lie. He's scored four and has I think three assists. He's doing a job for the team, work rate is top draw, he creates chances for others. I just wish he'd be a little more confident and have a go more often. But then again he's got arseholes like you jumping down his throat. Give the guy a break and try and be happy with the team, their position and the good football we're seeing week in week out. It's not been this good since the MON days, and the football I'd argue is better at present.
whitlock Posted 9 October 2012 Posted 9 October 2012 Iain Hume all over again. Will divide opinion amongst fans, IMO he's not good enough for me, would rather have a 'lazy' Yakubu that puts away his chances.
ealingfox Posted 9 October 2012 Posted 9 October 2012 I think he has made a decent enough start, but I would like to see us try him off the bench as an impact sub when oppo defenders are getting a bit leggy. Plus that would allow us to play Knockaert, Marshall and Dyer which on form would be total carnage.
Legend fox Posted 9 October 2012 Posted 9 October 2012 Vardy in my opinion is playing ok he set ups goals ( Nugents through ball at the week end off the top of my head) works his socks off has scored 3 goals and all this after going from non Lge football to the championship pushing for promotion on top of that he has had a change in managment and probably been asked to play a diffrent way. Vardy is gettin better and better he just needs our support.
dmayne7 Posted 9 October 2012 Posted 9 October 2012 Iain Hume all over again. Will divide opinion amongst fans, IMO he's not good enough for me, would rather have a 'lazy' Yakubu that puts away his chances. Not really Hume though because he had undoubted ability just couldn't really perform consistently. Vardy has been unspectacular but I think he will come good given time
marty78 Posted 9 October 2012 Posted 9 October 2012 Stats don't lie. He's scored four and has I think three assists. He's doing a job for the team, work rate is top draw, he creates chances for others. I just wish he'd be a little more confident and have a go more often. But then again he's got arseholes like you jumping down his throat. Give the guy a break and try and be happy with the team, their position and the good football we're seeing week in week out. It's not been this good since the MON days, and the football I'd argue is better at present. I think it's admirable that he is a team player who looks for his team mates where possible and I'm sure Nugent likes playing with him for this reason but I would also like to see him have a crack more often. Overall though I think he has been twice the player of the man he replaced in starting line-up.
dannythefox Posted 9 October 2012 Posted 9 October 2012 Vardy in my opinion is playing ok he set ups goals ( Nugents through ball at the week end off the top of my head) works his socks off has scored 3 goals and all this after going from non Lge football to the championship pushing for promotion on top of that he has had a change in managment and probably been asked to play a diffrent way. Vardy is gettin better and better he just needs our support. This is correct! Most of the Vardy hates will probably the Beckord lovers who scored 9 league goals in 47 games which is not good enough. I think Vardy has 3 assist and 3 league goals in 10 games which imo is fantasic considering where he's come from but you'll never please everyone. Keep the faith.
martyn Posted 9 October 2012 Posted 9 October 2012 Been a bit of a mixed bag from Vardy so far, but I'm surprised he's getting grief already. The instant gratification culture that many football fans now have is ridiculous. Works his nuts off, quick enough and weighed in with some goals and assists in a side we are seeing play its best football for some time. You bring back Beckford or as someone mentioned a Yakubu, you lose a lot of the attributes which are helping the team to perform well.
breadandcheese Posted 9 October 2012 Posted 9 October 2012 I've always believed in partnerships as vital across the park, whether it be central defenders, midfielders or forwards. From what I can see, Vardy and Nugent are forming a good partnership. That to me is most important. As it happens, I think Vardy works hard, causes problems for defenders and gets into good positions. He should have had a few more goals to his name than he currently has with the chances he has had but 3 in 10 is not bad and he should improve as he gets used to this level. Bear in mind it is a huge step up, so in that light, he's done really well and will no doubt improve from playing at the higher level. I like him.
Rich Fox Posted 9 October 2012 Posted 9 October 2012 Cant see why so called fans are slagging off Vardy? he has built up a great partnership with Nugent, has scored goals, is creating chances and works hard. All you people moaning and saying we should drop him, what do you think would happen if we dropped him? or if we changed our system? The answer is we would start to lose almost no doubt about it. We have a partnership up front which is working you can argue till your blue in the face that Vardy is missing to many,if he is missing a lot he at least must be in the right place. Was I on another planet last season when Beckford and Nugent were playing together? I am not going to knock Beckford because I think he will score plenty at Huddesfield but I am a season ticket holder and the Beckford and Nugent partnership did not work. Beckford created nothing for Nugent. Peasron is building a side and its about partnerships all over the pitch.
Buggsteam Posted 9 October 2012 Posted 9 October 2012 So if Vardy starts scoring on a regular basis who in the team are the moaners then going to have a go at. We are sitting 2nd in the league with 5 wins on the bounce and have scored in every game. Vardy has made a big step up into a tough league yet he's managed 3 goals and 3 assist. He knows how to play and gets in behind defences and into scoring positions. Granted he's not taken them all but that comes with confidence. He's had to learn to play with a new team, new manager and better opposition and still doing better then Beckford. He's goals will come, you can see by the way he plays he's a goal scorer which he's shown he knows where the net is at Fleetward. So I've got my bag ready with all the players names in. So when the moaners on here have finished with him let me know when to pull the next name out. Until then we should be backing the team and getting behind every single one of them that's helped get this great run together. God I hate sounding like a moaner. Rant over.
Thracian Posted 9 October 2012 Posted 9 October 2012 Stats don't lie. He's scored four and has I think three assists. He's doing a job for the team, work rate is top draw, he creates chances for others. I just wish he'd be a little more confident and have a go more often. But then again he's got arseholes like you jumping down his throat. Give the guy a break and try and be happy with the team, their position and the good football we're seeing week in week out. It's not been this good since the MON days, and the football I'd argue is better at present. We've been crying out for a proper strike partnership and right now we've got one. It is no coincidence that we're a far more balanced, consistent, hard-working and entertaining team than we've been for many a season - and we're scoring goals at the necessary rate to give us a promotion chance. That's a lot of pluses and I can see there being more because I stiill believe there's far more to come from Vardy and, while some give the impression that all the above is down to Knockaert, it's not because that lad too has lots more improving to do. One big thing that Vardy and Knockaert do is to ensure there's more space for others to work in...and that's because they are both a handful and both are likely to do you damage if you ignore em even for a moment. Teams can no longer afford to put two men on Dyer and effectively blunt our attack because there are three or four other significant dangermen and that includes the rejuvenated King. A major difference in our team now is that the players seem to believe in each other - in their ability, their intelligence and their commitment to the cause. One of Vardy's problems is to balance the ruthlessness required of any striker with the choice of when to be selfless. Andy King faces the same decision-making at times. But it's a far better problem to have than people making potentially lethal runs and their team-mates just ignoring them or not having the ability to get the ball to them. People forget that Vardy is still a relative junior in the city set-up. But let him score his first hat-trick or have his goals win a couple of vital games and you'll soon see him grow in confidence and effectiveness. But for now there's not a problem anyway. Even on a quietish day - and Nugent's had plenty in his time - Vardy has some significant effect, either in scoring a goal, making a goal, being in the right place to find chances, creating vital space for others, making life difficult for the opposition to set up attacks and so on. Unlike Beckford or so many of our past strikers I can't remember a single occasion when he's been inconsequential or failed to give his all for the cause and with some impact. It isn't so long ago that Nugent seemed morose and anything like the striker we know he can be. But as soon as he cogged in with Vardy he looked a happy man again and that's understandable because Vardy must be an absolute dream to partner in that he shares the responsibilities in every sense of the word. And that might be considered a common denominator in the team now. For the first time in ages no-one seems to hide. They all make mistakes or bad decisions but everyone's attitude is to rectify them and go again and that, more than anything, can break opponents' hearts as seemed to be the case with Bristol and others before them. Our five wins in a row has thrilled everyone but I still think we're understating ourselves and that one day, with the right licence from our management, we'll take someone apart so harshly that Nugent and Vardy will both qualify for the match ball with hat-tricks apiece. Optimism? Well just think of the chances we create in some matches and then reflect on the fact that Pearson hardly ever seems to condone unrestrained attacking. He still seems content that we get ourselves into a winning position and not let it go. I've referred to it before - he seems to have a natural caution that he finds hard to abandon . It's not meant today as a criticism, just a statement about the way he comes across. But this team is far more exciting than anything he's had here in the past and has far greater potential than has been shown so far. Opponents still park the proverbial bus but the difference now is that by power, pace or panache we find a way around it, over it or through it to the point that we've scored in every game we've played this season and might well have scored a lot more. And that's the biggest compliment I can pay to Vardy/Nugent and their considerable supporting cast. They score every time. And when Pearson finally lets them off the leash they'll score for fun in some games. You can actually see the gradual improvement in the results stats. We scored six goals in our first five league matches and have scored 11 in our next five...almost double. And we're still warming up.
I blame Wellens Posted 9 October 2012 Posted 9 October 2012 Yes not to sure about Vardy at the moment. But who gives a toss we are 2nd in the league let's give him the benefit of a doubt for the time being
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