ADK Posted 22 December 2012 Posted 22 December 2012 To be fair you can't blame the goalkeeper for being the worst footballer in the team. Thats not really his job. Nugent is probably shit in goal too.
Vacamion Posted 22 December 2012 Posted 22 December 2012 Nugent is probably shit in goal too. But still better than Rab Douglas
Deucalion Posted 22 December 2012 Posted 22 December 2012 Maybe Kasper's distribution looks poor because we are so poor at winning headers?
col23 Posted 22 December 2012 Posted 22 December 2012 Maybe Kasper's distribution looks poor because we are so poor at winning headers? Thank you! Sense!
5waller5 Posted 22 December 2012 Posted 22 December 2012 Very over-rated keeper IMO, always makes bad decisions. Comes out when he should stop & sticks when he should come out. Distribution is a liability. Best we've had for some time has made people believe he's actually good when he's done nothing that I can see to suggest he's above mid-table quality. A famous Dad generates a lot of good will for him too. Look at all the keepers we come up against who make match winning save after match winning save against us - Look at how many match winning saves Kasper makes? **** all in comparison. Thanks to the rest of the team he faces fewer shots on goal than any other keeper too I'm not sure how you manage it but I disagree with almost every point you ever make.
Weller in Tights Posted 22 December 2012 Posted 22 December 2012 A goalkeeper for me should dominate the box and anything in the 6 yard box should be theirs. He very rarely wins the ball from a cross under any sort of pressure. This for me is his biggest fault. The distribution?, well surely that is down to Pearson. If Pearson doesnt want the goalkeeper to hoof the ball up the pitch, then he needs to play a game where they play the ball out from the back. We do not have the players to win the ball in the air from a big hoof up the pitch, Kasper keeps doing it though!! I presume that is what Pearson has told him to do.
ithuriel Posted 22 December 2012 Posted 22 December 2012 I worry more about the fact that in two consecutive home matches, their first real shot on target equals a goal.
RyanLCFC18 Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 I will. Thanks. You keep on getting giddy over the poznan & being a laughing stock. **** off an support man city you glory hunting pr*ck
AnotherShitSeason Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 **** off an support man city you glory hunting pr*ck Why would I? I support Leicester. I have done for more years than you've been alive. You on the other hand are a laughing stock. Keep on shredding the confetti & practicing the poznan in front of the mirror with your shit giggling mates. Keep on happy clapping & wearing jester hats. Utter clown.
Danizen Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Why would I? I support Leicester. I have done for more years than you've been alive. You on the other hand are a laughing stock. Keep on shredding the confetti & practicing the poznan in front of the mirror with your shit giggling mates. Keep on happy clapping & wearing jester hats. Utter clown. Keep on sitting there like a miserable pr!ck 'supporting' Leicester.Pathetic.
acooling08 Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Why would I? I support Leicester. I have done for more years than you've been alive. You on the other hand are a laughing stock. Keep on shredding the confetti & practicing the poznan in front of the mirror with your shit giggling mates. Keep on happy clapping & wearing jester hats. Utter clown. Somebody buy this man a dictionary!
Sampson Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Agh, well I guess I'll bite and I know you'll call me a moaning so and so, so I'll just say to begin with I'm generally very happy with the position we're in in the league and how the first half of the season has gone so far and I'm not fishing for something to moan about, it's just on the topic of Schmeichel, I really, really don't get why so many fans hype him as one of the best keepers in the league. He arrived with a rotten reputation from Leeds' fans and he's really starting to live up to it. Similarly to Chris Weale, they were both brilliant in the first half of their first season but faded in the second half and then Weale was slaughtered for a few mistakes in his second season, Schmeichel has been even worse than Weale was in his second season yet still seems to get praise. I'm not saying, one is right and one is wrong, but the slaughtering Weale received in comparison to the slaughtering Schmeichel hasn't received just seems odd. To those of you saying he'll save us more points than he'll cost us this season: can you name a single game this season, a single one, where Schmeichel has won us points when you're standard average Championship goalkeeper wouldn't have? I'm not putting forward he should be hung drawn and quartered or anything and I think he has potential to be a decent keeper if he cut out the over-enthusiasm and over-passion and stopped charging out for every ball he has no chance of getting too, but I just cannot understand how anyone who has watched us play this season can honestly say he has been anything other than poor this season, especially those who slated Weale a couple of seasons back. And I do think there are a lot of fans who want to like him because of his passion etc. but do have this constant niggling feeling in the back of their minds that he really isn't very good. And with regards to his distribution, saying it doesn't matter is the kind of thinking that's holding us back. It's the same kind of fans who defend the likes of Mills, Kisnorbo and Whitbread constantly giving the ball straight back to the opposition because it's not their job to keep the ball, or the fans who slaughtered Heskey because he didn't score enough and his job was to be scoring goals. To put football in such simplistic terms in that it's a goalkeeper's job to stop goals, it's defenders jobs to win headers and make blocks and challenges, it's midfielders jobs to create goals and forwards jobs to score them, is ridiculous. It's every players job to contribute towards the team winning! Yes, to the person earlier in the thread saying I don't understand goalkeeping, I sure do understand goalkeeping and I understand it's a lot more than just shot stopping, which Schmeichel is good at. It's also about communication, knowing when and when not to come out to try and collect or punch high balls into the box and it's about trying to get into positions where you can narrow the angle or reduce the chance of scoring or give yourself the best position for the possible risks that may happen in the upcoming attacks and I've not seen anything from Schmeichel to convince me he's much good at that, despite being an excellent shot stopper, And with regards to it's the strikers fault for not winning the headers it really isn't. I've seen plenty of goalkeeper come and go in my time as Leicester fan and the only other goalkeeper who gave the ball straight back to the opposition as much as Schmeichel does with his kicking was Stuart Taylor, it's not that he's putting it into positions where it could be 50/50 between a defender and an attacker, it's that he's constantly putting it into positions where defenders are easily winning the ball or often just passing it directly to an opposition player or out for a throw-in. No one is saying Schmiechel has to be an amazing long passer of the ball, but the large majority of goalkeepers I've seen down here at least put the ball into areas where it was a 50:50 for the striker and the defender, Schmeichel just doesn't do that. Stuart Taylor is the only other keeper I can ever remember where distribution was being brought up as such an issue, because most fans can accept a lot of the time keepers do have no other option put it in 50:50 areas, but it's gotten well below that with Schmeichel's accuracy and consistently below that as well.
whitlock Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Very very over rated goalkeeper, take away his sure name and I guarantee he wouldn't be playing for us.
volpeazzurro Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Agh, well I guess I'll bite and I know you'll call me a moaning so and so, so I'll just say to begin with I'm generally very happy with the position we're in in the league and how the first half of the season has gone so far and I'm not fishing for something to moan about, it's just on the topic of Schmeichel, I really, really don't get why so many fans hype him as one of the best keepers in the league. He arrived with a rotten reputation from Leeds' fans and he's really starting to live up to it. Similarly to Chris Weale, they were both brilliant in the first half of their first season but faded in the second half and then Weale was slaughtered for a few mistakes in his second season, Schmeichel has been even worse than Weale was in his second season yet still seems to get praise. I'm not saying, one is right and one is wrong, but the slaughtering Weale received in comparison to the slaughtering Schmeichel hasn't received just seems odd. To those of you saying he'll save us more points than he'll cost us this season: can you name a single game this season, a single one, where Schmeichel has won us points when you're standard average Championship goalkeeper wouldn't have? I'm not putting forward he should be hung drawn and quartered or anything and I think he has potential to be a decent keeper if he cut out the over-enthusiasm and over-passion and stopped charging out for every ball he has no chance of getting too, but I just cannot understand how anyone who has watched us play this season can honestly say he has been anything other than poor this season, especially those who slated Weale a couple of seasons back. And I do think there are a lot of fans who want to like him because of his passion etc. but do have this constant niggling feeling in the back of their minds that he really isn't very good. And with regards to his distribution, saying it doesn't matter is the kind of thinking that's holding us back. It's the same kind of fans who defend the likes of Mills, Kisnorbo and Whitbread constantly giving the ball straight back to the opposition because it's not their job to keep the ball, or the fans who slaughtered Heskey because he didn't score enough and his job was to be scoring goals. To put football in such simplistic terms in that it's a goalkeeper's job to stop goals, it's defenders jobs to win headers and make blocks and challenges, it's midfielders jobs to create goals and forwards jobs to score them, is ridiculous. It's every players job to contribute towards the team winning! Yes, to the person earlier in the thread saying I don't understand goalkeeping, I sure do understand goalkeeping and I understand it's a lot more than just shot stopping, which Schmeichel is good at. It's also about communication, knowing when and when not to come out to try and collect or punch high balls into the box and it's about trying to get into positions where you can narrow the angle or reduce the chance of scoring or give yourself the best position for the possible risks that may happen in the upcoming attacks and I've not seen anything from Schmeichel to convince me he's much good at that, despite being an excellent shot stopper, And with regards to it's the strikers fault for not winning the headers it really isn't. I've seen plenty of goalkeeper come and go in my time as Leicester fan and the only other goalkeeper who gave the ball straight back to the opposition as much as Schmeichel does with his kicking was Stuart Taylor, it's not that he's putting it into positions where it could be 50/50 between a defender and an attacker, it's that he's constantly putting it into positions where defenders are easily winning the ball or often just passing it directly to an opposition player or out for a throw-in. No one is saying Schmiechel has to be an amazing long passer of the ball, but the large majority of goalkeepers I've seen down here at least put the ball into areas where it was a 50:50 for the striker and the defender, Schmeichel just doesn't do that. Stuart Taylor is the only other keeper I can ever remember where distribution was being brought up as such an issue, because most fans can accept a lot of the time keepers do have no other option put it in 50:50 areas, but it's gotten well below that with Schmeichel's accuracy and consistently below that as well. I think this is a very fair summing up of Caspar. We all want to like him because he's ours and he does indeed show plenty of passion but...yes he does flap and his distribution is very poor imo as it has been all season. As for our strikers not winning their headers I think that is unfair. How many times did Caspar lump the ball up to Vardy who was firstly being marked by a physically superior sized player but the kick itself was going completely over his head and that of his marker! His kicks, as mentioned are less than 50-50 and should we ever progress into the Premiership such surrendering of possession (by any player) will be heavily exploited by much superior oppositions than Cardiff.
Mack Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 For me there are different types of keepers. Some wont make any mistakes but wont do anything spectacular either, others will do the impossible whilst also making the odd error. Kasper is the later, and there has been so many occasions over his time with us that he has kept us in games we should be behind in. Yes there are times he makes an error, and yes there are times he keeps something out he has no right to. Add to that his superb attitude and spirit and I really do believe that anyone looking to piss up his door and lay blame on the lad is way way off the mark. If you are looking for someone who has not lived up to the billing then look no further than Vardy, and it's not his fault he is out of his depth.
Iwan is a Welshman Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Jesus there's some foolish opinions on this board. We're having the best season we've had in a decade and this morning I've read that we should sack our manager and that our two best players (Kasper and Wes) in my opinion, aren't any good.
Iwan is a Welshman Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 I honestly don't remember him saving us any points this season. He had a brilliant start to last season but I fail to see how anyone can think he's having anything but a poor season this time out. This is what's brilliant about football. I think you couldn't be more wrong. We'd be mid-table if it wasn't for Kasper.
RyanLCFC18 Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Why would I? I support Leicester. I have done for more years than you've been alive. You on the other hand are a laughing stock. Keep on shredding the confetti & practicing the poznan in front of the mirror with your shit giggling mates. Keep on happy clapping & wearing jester hats. Utter clown. Support is the key word there... a supporter backs the team through good and bad,not kiss their ass when winning and slag then off when losing a few. we played good football yesterday and completely dominates the team thats top of the league, take the positives... look atus now compared to previous years and were only half way through the season. Just a question btw when we got relagated did u swap teams by any chance?
Happy Fox Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 "Completely dominates" you need to revise your definition...
Fox92 Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Always said he is slightly overrated by our fans. His distribution is poor, and he has nearly cost us a number of times (including yesterday if I recall) when he comes to punch it. He isn't the best goalkeeper in the league like some think (Marshall, Speroni, Kenny are all better). However, can we get any better? Although I don't rate him as highly as others, he is our best goalkeeper for a long time (since Walker in my opinion) and does need to work on his distribution. We need to start throwing it out to the full backs, especially if we still go with Nugent/Vardy/Waghorn up front who can't hold the ball.
RedHux Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Jeez.... whatever next. The only thing to say about Kasper is that like every other keeper we sign he hasn;'t improved as a Leicester keeper ..... I can't remember us ever signing a keeper that was better when we sold him than when we signed him. Peter Shilton
Happy Fox Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 I made the point then when we have competition in Logan who is beyond shite and been living off this club for the past 10 years with f**k all quality and add in the fact we have a shite goalkeeping coach in Stowell is it any wonder that Kasper is going off the boil.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Last night on the Football League Show Manish said that City seem to be regularly coming up against keepers on form in the last few weeks. This seems to be true, but what I've also noticed is that I can't remember the last time Schmichael made such good saves. This isn't so much a criticism of Schmichael, more that our opposition also seem to be getting very easy chances on goal with Schmichael having little chance and nothing else to do besides.
Happy Fox Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Last night on the Football League Show Manish said that City seem to be regularly coming up against keepers on form in the last few weeks. This seems to be true, but what I've also noticed is that I can't remember the last time Schmichael made such good saves. This isn't so much a criticism of Schmichael, more that our opposition also seem to be getting very easy chances on goal with Schmichael having little chance and nothing else to do besides. Or we take chances that are easy for goalkeepers to save hence we make them look good?
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