Captain... Posted 3 January 2013 Posted 3 January 2013 Because as far as 4th choice strikers go, he was bloody expensive and wasn't bought here to be a back up, he's not paricularly young or showing any particular signs of being able to contribute the required number of goals assists or decent perfomances required at this level. So yes people will moan about him and get on his back it's natural reaction to dissapointment and his 1.2 million odd pound transfer fee. Whitbred as well is not to great as people make out either he gives the ball away a lot and he is wreckless, it was him lofting the ball into nowhere when he had square passes on both sides that lead to Cardiff scoring. Although admittidly certainly the best we have at the minute and it would be hard to find someone much better whilst still in this division. I don't tend to judge players by their transfer fee, for starters it is no longer an indication of their ability, it is just as much and indication of how much they have left on their contract, how eager/desperate the buying and the selling club are. He didn't decide what we paid for him, so I judge him on his performances on the pitch and his contribution to the team, so far he is doing ok and a good option to have as back up. And I am confident he will get better once he is fit, at the moment he isn't and hasn't looked it since he was first sidelined with illness.
Bluetintedspecs Posted 3 January 2013 Posted 3 January 2013 He looks good I give ya but i hope you don't come to eat your words. The point I'm making is give it a bit of time. Beckford was signed due a fanfare of adulation too. Hey Col, I see the cautious point you have made about Wood and understand why! I also agree it's only 90 mins, however after the game on Tuesday was chatting with mates and we were saying that the last player who looked so impressive on his debut with all round play, awareness, strength positioning,touch and finishing was SIR Les a class act at the end of a quality career! This lad is only 21 and he seems so level headed and I genuinely think we've got ourselves a gem with a football brain He's gonna be our "big white tent" signing .Regarding Vardy I'd like to see us keep him and bring him on as an impact sub and see how he works with Wood maybe
Guest Col city fan Posted 3 January 2013 Posted 3 January 2013 Hey Col, I see the cautious point you have made about Wood and understand why! I also agree it's only 90 mins, however after the game on Tuesday was chatting with mates and we were saying that the last player who looked so impressive on his debut with all round play, awareness, strength positioning,touch and finishing was SIR Les a class act at the end of a quality career! This lad is only 21 and he seems so level headed and I genuinely think we've got ourselves a gem with a football brain He's gonna be our "big white tent" signing .Regarding Vardy I'd like to see us keep him and bring him on as an impact sub and see how he works with Wood maybe I think he looks grand buddy!! But I hate all this bigging someone up so quickly. It gives em further to fall if they go off the boil, if you catch my drift? Could be the signing of the season but, to be hypercritical, it's a bloody shame we didn't sign that really good second striker at the start of the season! We'd probably be top by now!
Bluetintedspecs Posted 3 January 2013 Posted 3 January 2013 I think he looks grand buddy!! But I hate all this bigging someone up so quickly. It gives em further to fall if they go off the boil, if you catch my drift? Could be the signing of the season but, to be hypercritical, it's a bloody shame we didn't sign that really good second striker at the start of the season! We'd probably be top by now! Yes cannot disgree, maybe NP thought Vardy was going to make the jump up and shock people? Re Wood 11 in 19 for Wall, 2 in his debut for us, he appears to be a natural and there's still a hell of a lot of games for us to break into the top 2 IMO
JonnyBoy Posted 4 January 2013 Posted 4 January 2013 That sounds a lot more like Beckford's shots-to-goals ratio to me. Beckford CAN finish, Vardy cant. thats the difference. Unfortuantely Beckford was booted out to Hudds when he started to be himself. I would much rather recall him now if he was to change his attitude than have Vardy anyday
SeattleShane Posted 4 January 2013 Posted 4 January 2013 Beckford CAN finish, Vardy cant. thats the difference. Unfortuantely Beckford was booted out to Hudds when he started to be himself. I would much rather recall him now if he was to change his attitude than have Vardy anyday Thats the thing about Beckford, doesnt look like he wants to be here. Plenty of players in front of him that do. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Babylon Posted 4 January 2013 Posted 4 January 2013 Beckford CAN finish, Vardy cant. thats the difference. If he can finish, why didn't he? Unfortuantely Beckford was booted out to Hudds when he started to be himself. So you were prepared to give Beckford time but not Vardy. And if by booted out you mean requested to leave then yes he did.
Guest Posted 4 January 2013 Posted 4 January 2013 Beckford CAN finish, Vardy cant. thats the difference. Unfortuantely Beckford was booted out to Hudds when he started to be himself. I would much rather recall him now if he was to change his attitude than have Vardy anyday Beckford proved that he can't finish. Did you actaully watch him play for us?
indierich06 Posted 4 January 2013 Posted 4 January 2013 Beckford CAN finish, Vardy cant. thats the difference. Unfortuantely Beckford was booted out to Hudds when he started to be himself. I would much rather recall him now if he was to change his attitude than have Vardy anyday How has Vardy got a better goalscoring record than Beckford this season then? If by starting to be himself you mean he's scored a meagre 3 goals and had next to no impact, yeah - you're right, sounds just like the Beckford I remember. I'm not saying Vardy's better than Beckford, or that Vardy should be starting for us, I just think people who think that Beckford is better than Vardy just because he played for Everton and had a couple of decent seasons in League One is deluded. They're very much on par so far this season; if anything Vardy's been better than Becks.
Yastafox Posted 4 January 2013 Posted 4 January 2013 I think it's hard to forget where Vardy's come from in terms of lower league. Ill admit he hasn't been up to scratch but he has shown glimpses of being a decent player. I think he needs another season in the league if he hasn't improved by next season we should look to get rid. Saying that if we make it to the PL it's defo goodbye!
J.Lisemore Posted 4 January 2013 Posted 4 January 2013 Beckford CAN finish, Vardy cant. thats the difference. Unfortuantely Beckford was booted out to Hudds when he started to be himself. I would much rather recall him now if he was to change his attitude than have Vardy anyday The **** did I just read
Danno Posted 4 January 2013 Posted 4 January 2013 Vardy is a decent striker at this level. He is lightning quick and gets into good positions, but doesn't have the confidence/ability to finish the majority of the chances he gets. His constant running always makes us look more dangerous as a team as he creates space for others. He is also rather good in the air for a relatively small striker. Unfortunately people write him off too quickly and he has done very well considering his step up. I still think he'll only be a good championship striker at best in the long term. To compare him to Beckford is ridiculous, a striker like Beckford does fvck all for the team unless he is the main man and is always receiving the ball. And his 3 goals for Huddersfield.... Wow what a player
_Fatboyslow_ Posted 4 January 2013 Posted 4 January 2013 Shut the fcik up about Becks we need to sell him ok Now all together BECKFORD COME HOME
JonnyBoy Posted 4 January 2013 Posted 4 January 2013 Beckford can't finish? ok.... How has Vardy got a better goalscoring record than Beckford this season then? If by starting to be himself you mean he's scored a meagre 3 goals and had next to no impact, yeah - you're right, sounds just like the Beckford I remember. I'm not saying Vardy's better than Beckford, or that Vardy should be starting for us, I just think people who think that Beckford is better than Vardy just because he played for Everton and had a couple of decent seasons in League One is deluded. They're very much on par so far this season; if anything Vardy's been better than Becks. wow
Danno Posted 4 January 2013 Posted 4 January 2013 Beckford can't finish? ok.... wow 9 league goals last season. Best striker in the world
JonnyBoy Posted 4 January 2013 Posted 4 January 2013 9 league goals last season. Best striker in the world how many has Vardy got this season?
Grey Fox Posted 4 January 2013 Posted 4 January 2013 Beckford can't finish? ok.... wow What league was that in Bruv?
J.Lisemore Posted 4 January 2013 Posted 4 January 2013 Neither Vardy or Beckford have set the KP on fire... the difference is, one genuinely wants to play and the other can't be arsed.
JonnyBoy Posted 4 January 2013 Posted 4 January 2013 deary me... ask a stupid question and you will get a stupid answer
inckley fox Posted 4 January 2013 Posted 4 January 2013 Beckford can't finish? ok.... Has your entire argument been based on having seen that one clip? Or did you base it on the twenty goals he's scored in ninety-seven league games outside of League One? Dennis Wise, while at Newcastle, once saw a Youtube video of a chap called Ignacio Gonzalez. He was also very good. Clearly one goal every five games for a 29 year-old on 30 grand plus per week and whose sole purpose is pretty much to score goals is precisely what you feel we need. Presumably you feel that the twelve goals he's scored in 63 career Championship games would be a massive improvement on the thirteen that Wood has bagged in twenty this season alone, or the twelve that Nugent has hit in 21 or 22 for us in 2012-13. His goals per game average at this level and above is worse than that of past stalwarts like Fryatt, Connolly and Howard; and on a par with that of De Vries, Hume and our very own Waghorn (who's six years younger and, by his own admission, not a goalscorer by trade). Even Andy King very nearly matches his goals-per-game ratio in the Championship. I'm not the hottest when it comes to forum jargon, but someone recently explained to me what a WUM is. So I can only deduce that you're either a WUM, mind-blowingly blinkered, or just plain simple.
Grey Fox Posted 4 January 2013 Posted 4 January 2013 deary me... ask a stupid question and you will get a stupid answer Now I underdstand. So your point is that Beckford is a world beater because he once scored a decent goal for sunny scunny? I doesn't really matter what any of us think anyway. As long a Pearson is in charge, Beckford's days as Leicester first team squad member are over. Ger over it.
inckley fox Posted 4 January 2013 Posted 4 January 2013 Oh and Vardy - while I'm not a huge fan - has, with four in twenty-one appearances (seventeen starts), already managed to match Beckford's goals-per-game ratio in this league despite being four years younger and only having played in the league since August. And my guess is that he's not on thirty grand a week either.
Danno Posted 4 January 2013 Posted 4 January 2013 Now I underdstand. So your point is that Beckford is a world beater because he once scored a decent goal for sunny scunny? I doesn't really matter what any of us think anyway. As long a Pearson is in charge, Beckford's days as Leicester first team squad member are over. Ger over it. You normally get these posts proclaiming Beckford as the answer after a loss. but we just won 6-1. Strange.
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