Dan Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 I hate to say it but.. I agree. He's convincing me more and more he's not cut out for this level by every game. Such a shame as I honestly thought he'd be a big hit.
Dan Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Why? if your technical ability and quality is there work rate doesn't need to overweight that. NP has got us into a functional unit where is the quality? we do have it in Marshall and Knockaert but they aren't being utilized properly imo and until NP changes his ways with regards to formation expect results not to be that great. I actually agree with this. Pearson wastes probably our two most technical players.
kingfox Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 I hate to say it but.. I agree. He's convincing me more and more he's not cut out for this level by every game. Such a shame as I honestly thought he'd be a big hit. Same here Dan, like Col with my posts, I can't stop agreeing with yours. I do believe he is capable of being a hit in the Championship but not just yet, I think he needs to be tested at League One level, because right now he isn't good enough for Championship football, I think he needs time adjusting but right this moment, I wouldn't start him and sometimes I think he isn't even worth a place on the bench. He certainly isn't worth £1 million either, we have definitely overpaid for him. I would loan him out in all honesty, and see how he cuts it at a lower level, and get in two strikers. I'm enjoying your recent balanced posts KF. Stick to your guns on your footballing views cos mostly I agree with them. Apart from JET of course.. I thought I would of got 20 rep points in the past day with my posts
Guest Col city fan Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Same here Dan, like Col with my posts, I can't stop agreeing with yours. I do believe he is capable of being a hit in the Championship but not just yet, I think he needs to be tested at League One level, because right now he isn't good enough for Championship football, I think he needs time adjusting but right this moment, I wouldn't start him and sometimes I think he isn't even worth a place on the bench. He certainly isn't worth £1 million either, we have definitely overpaid for him. I would loan him out in all honesty, and see how he cuts it at a lower level, and get in two strikers. I thought I would of got 20 rep points in the past day with my posts I did say today mate... I'm sure you're usual nonsense will be resumed forthwith.
kingfox Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 I did say today mate... I'm sure you're usual nonsense will be resumed forthwith. Nope, going to make more of an effort by speaking sense, will be my new years resolution. Along with the attempt of not getting permanently banned from this forum.
@mktadpole1975 Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Why does Pearson persists with him,yes he runs and put the other teams defence under pressure but that is it,Saturday game against Cardiff just highlights that we need a new striker or give futac more game time.discuss
cc_star Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Why does Pearson persists with him,yes he runs and put the other teams defence under pressure but that is it,Saturday game against Cardiff just highlights that we need a new striker or give futac more game time.discuss Clueless Cardiff would have loved it if Futacs came on, they'd have still been there now nodding balls clear, have you seen their centrehalves? One thing they struggled to cope with was balls on the deck, Vardy ran them ragged and made stuff happen, it was only a matter of time before something happened from all the good play, until he apparently got injured and had to come off
Dr The Singh Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Vardy did ok against Cardiff, his pace and energy caused them problems but his first touch and all round game is limited at the moment. It's a big step up from conference, I hope he adapts
cafe Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Tadpole.It is because Pearson is a limited manager.It is not his fault he just lacks the necessary skills to go to the next level. Of course the next level for Nige may well be Hartlepool on two bob a week.
Danno Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Tadpole.It is because Pearson is a limited manager.It is not his fault he just lacks the necessary skills to go to the next level. Of course the next level for Nige may well be Hartlepool on two bob a week. Clueless
fleckneymike Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 He's that far out of his depth he's just bought a diving bell.
Bluetintedspecs Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 If this thread develops into a consensus of opinion that actually Vardy is not good enough, will people then go on to question Pearson and the money he paid out on him? Personally, I see Vardy as third choice striker, with the options we currently have which is disappointing as I felt him and Nugent were going to be the obvious partnership following Beckford's loan move. In a division where some players have a goal tally in the mid/late teens already, Vardy's return must improve for him to be considered a serious choice up top. Sad but very true, no lack of effort and his positional sense is pretty good but not quite there yet. He may thrive if we get another striker and he is used as an impact sub? I still don't think he's anything like a lost cause though, 1/2 a season is no time considering the step up IMO.
kingfox Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Sad but very true, no lack of effort and his positional sense is pretty good but not quite there yet. He may thrive if we get another striker and he is used as an impact sub? I still don't think he's anything like a lost cause though, 1/2 a season is no time considering the step up IMO. Like I have been saying as well when you say 1/2 a season is no time considering the step up. Stepping up three divisions takes time, and whether it takes a whole season or even two then who knows, but I think the main thing Vardy needs to do is work hard in training, work on his first touch and finishing then he will become a good player for us; however despite his good work rate, his finishing and first touches are letting him down at the minute, and making him look like a poor player. He needs time adjusting, but I really do think he could do with some experience in a League One side.
ian the fox Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Yesterday i thought we are missing our reserve activity Jamie could build up his confidence away from the coliseum It must be very daunting knowing he hasnt bagged enough goals .... tbf he is only a prospect , has time to improve & I believe he does have enough pace to make it in this league Lets not hammer him , that would be shit
Bluetintedspecs Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Like I have been saying as well when you say 1/2 a season is no time considering the step up. Stepping up three divisions takes time, and whether it takes a whole season or even two then who knows, but I think the main thing Vardy needs to do is work hard in training, work on his first touch and finishing then he will become a good player for us; however despite his good work rate, his finishing and first touches are letting him down at the minute, and making him look like a poor player. He needs time adjusting, but I really do think he could do with some experience in a League One side. I thought I was gonna totally agree until last sentence KF, IMO that's the last thing he needs,I feel he needs nurturing remaining with his peers learning off them, coming on as sub, less pressure and continuing the learning and adjustment process.
kingfox Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 I thought I was gonna totally agree until last sentence KF, IMO that's the last thing he needs,I feel he needs nurturing remaining with his peers learning off them, coming on as sub, less pressure and continuing the learning and adjustment process. I just think he needs to prove himself at that kind of level, because it isn't working in the Championship just yet. His first touch and finishing needs a lot of work, but how long is it going to take him to improve on those things, will he ever improve on those things? He is nothing more than a bench player at the minute.
ian the fox Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 I would like to see him " a yard or two closer" to any potential rebound situations , that would help
savillefoxes Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 I would say bad man management. The lad is a goal scorer without a doupt, but to throw him in at the deep end and expect him to carry on where he left off was madness in my oppionion.A striker thrive's on goals and to be given a start for so many game's to me was wrong he should have been on the bench and brought on accordingly.You can see the lad has not got much confidence now and that has to be down to the manager.
indierich06 Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 The same people who say Vardy is out of his depth seem to be the same people who say that we should be bringing Jermaine Beckford back. Funny, that.
Bluetintedspecs Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 The same people who say Vardy is out of his depth seem to be the same people who say that we should be bringing Jermaine Beckford back. Funny, that. I think Vardy needs time but would never want that waste of space back!
acooling08 Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 If that (great) header just before HT goes in instead of hitting the bar, this thread wouldn't have been made.
iamafox Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Vardy can be a good player for us but I think it's beneficial for him that he either gets benched or loaned out to a lower league team. I'd prefer it to be the latter as long as he gets a good run of games and goals, then he'll have more hunger and confidence when he comes back to us.
Mack Posted 23 December 2012 Author Posted 23 December 2012 The same people who say Vardy is out of his depth seem to be the same people who say that we should be bringing Jermaine Beckford back. Funny, that. That's aimed at me. So to defend myself I they are separate not connected opinions. Would I rather see Beckford in the side instead of Vardy? Too right. Too late for that now though so we have to forget Beckford and look for a new striker in the January market. It wont be cheap.
katieakita Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Think i will back the managers judgement, re.Vardy, there were plenty on here remember who slagged off Pearson for buying the Forest has been Wes Morgan and the unknown Marshall and Knockeart when we should have paid silly money for the lad from Hull who has vanished off the radar and was shipped out to Burnley i believe. Think we are in a much better position than when he took over, we have a younger, cheaper squad playing better, football lets see what Jan brings.
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