Mack Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 It's not his fault a Championship side offered all that money for him, and to be fair we weren't the only Championship club looking at the lad. Sadly for me the lad looks a couple of leagues too high, and in games like yesterday when Cardiff had the 'X' factor of Bellamy to secure the points despite all the chances we had (18 to Cardiff's 4) we just didn't have that ruthless goalscorer with the ability to make our chances count. For me Vardy runs about a lot but lacks the strength, confidence and ability to lead the line for a top half Championship side. I sincerely hope the rumors are true and we get a new attacking focal point in January, and likewise loan this lad out lower down the league to find his feet.
ozleicester Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 It's not his fault a Championship side offered all that money for him, and to be fair we weren't the only Championship club looking at the lad. Sadly for me the lad looks a couple of leagues too high, and in games like yesterday when Cardiff had the 'X' factor of Bellamy to secure the points despite all the chances we had (18 to Cardiff's 4) we just didn't have that ruthless goalscorer with the ability to make our chances count. For me Vardy runs about a lot but lacks the strength, confidence and ability to lead the line for a top half Championship side. I sincerely hope the rumors are true and we get a new attacking focal point in January, and likewise loan this lad out lower down the league to find his feet. Im begining to agree with this, but..the fact that he keeps getting into the right spots and having good chances is whats keeping my faith a little... but it is waning, id like him to come good
BunkMoreland Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Been obvious all season. Too much of a jump. No point in criticising him though as he is not a bad player really but just not quite up to scratch if we want promotion. Nige will bring in a new striker in Jan and vardy will become a capable back up which is about where he belongs. Nothing to be gained.from loaning him out imo.
Guest Col city fan Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 If this thread develops into a consensus of opinion that actually Vardy is not good enough, will people then go on to question Pearson and the money he paid out on him? Personally, I see Vardy as third choice striker, with the options we currently have which is disappointing as I felt him and Nugent were going to be the obvious partnership following Beckford's loan move. In a division where some players have a goal tally in the mid/late teens already, Vardy's return must improve for him to be considered a serious choice up top.
RyanLCFC18 Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Vardys not the only one whos not scoring atm, Nuge, Waggy...? are they out of their depth too?
mod hero Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Vardys not the only one whos not scoring atm, Nuge, Waggy...? are they out of their depth too? No. Nuge and Waggy can control a football
muzzy1981 Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 I can see him becoming a good champ striker but will take time, don't think nuge is the right partner too. But fact is nuge is more likely to get the goals this season so we need find someone to compliment him straight away and who can score Waggy has looked good alongside both players as he comes deep. I actually think with time we have enough fire power too smash this league but if we can sign someone too give us a better chance of going up then it has to be done.
volpeazzurro Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Agree with most of this. He is a real tryer and has good potential but sadly we might not have the time to develop him if we're to fight for promotion. Perhaps if we're winning towards the end of a game he would be worth bringing on but I feel that certainly Waghorn and then Futacs should be ahead of him in the pecking order. Something I noticed yesterday was that there were three occasions when a Leicester player had a shot and the ball came straight out off Marshall their goalkeeper. On all three occasions both Vardy and a defender then ran in from an almost standing start and on each occasion the defender got there first. My point would be that a natural finisher, on each occasion, would have been already running in and anticipating that the goalkeeper may well spill it. I think in this is the sort of area Vardy is lacking in in either confidence or nouse. Arguably he needs to be more selfish and just 'have a go' sometimes.
BunkMoreland Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 If this thread develops into a consensus of opinion that actually Vardy is not good enough, will people then go on to question Pearson and the money he paid out on him? Personally, I see Vardy as third choice striker, with the options we currently have which is disappointing as I felt him and Nugent were going to be the obvious partnership following Beckford's loan move. In a division where some players have a goal tally in the mid/late teens already, Vardy's return must improve for him to be considered a serious choice up top. He's not good enough but I still think he is reasonable value for money. Didn't cost that much and won't be on particularly high wages. Wouldn't go as far as calling it an astute signing but I have no complaints about the money spent even if he is ultimately only used as a back up. Especially in the context of some of the appalling waste of money signings we've made in recent years.
Dickov22 Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 There were FAR worse players on the pitch than him yesterday yet he's still seen as a scapegoat. It's boring. I'd rather have him than Waghorn.
Guest Col city fan Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Agree with most of this. He is a real tryer and has good potential but sadly we might not have the time to develop him if we're to fight for promotion. Perhaps if we're winning towards the end of a game he would be worth bringing on but I feel that certainly Waghorn and then Futacs should be ahead of him in the pecking order. Something I noticed yesterday was that there were three occasions when a Leicester player had a shot and the ball came straight out off Marshall their goalkeeper. On all three occasions both Vardy and a defender then ran in from an almost standing start and on each occasion the defender got there first. My point would be that a natural finisher, on each occasion, would have been already running in and anticipating that the goalkeeper may well spill it. I think in this is the sort of area Vardy is lacking in in either confidence or nouse. Arguably he needs to be more selfish and just 'have a go' sometimes. One of my old Uni mates is a Fleetwood fan and was pissed off big time when he knew that we were to sign Vardy. He tells me that Vardy was seen as a really really greedy player at Fleetwood. A sniff of a chance and bang, he'd shoot. Many times of course, he'd score. It seems like he's devoid of confidence at City as this aspect of his game has massively changed, he's simply laying the ball off too frequently. It could be that he doesn't yet feel able, so to speak, to be our main goal threat? Dunno if that makes sense.. But when he does just start wanting to score himself, rather than wanting to set-up Nuge, it could be that we see the real player.. I hope so.
Happy Fox Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Neither Waghorn or Vardy are good partners for Nugent, it has been clear since the summer that we needed another goalscorer and when Beckford left I expected a replacement.
J.Lisemore Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 People won't remember that Beckford didnt get straight into the Leeds team...he went out on loan to Scunthorpe, scored a few, came back and the rest is history. He needs time to adapt to the division.
RyanLCFC18 Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 No. Nuge and Waggy can control a football were you one of these slating waggy a few weeks ago too? you cant seriously expect him to come straight up be a 15goal scorer. as some one said 5 goals and 5 assists isnt bad for a first season in league football... Nuge has scored 11 an has played moregames and has alot more experience, i really like nuge but none of them are getting goals atm but we cnt just blame Vardy its a team
Fox92 Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 His work rate is fantastic, and that is good for us. But I still think he was unlucky yesterday. His leap for that header was very good, Marshall wouldn't have kept that out. No. Nuge and Waggy can control a football Debatable.
baronfox Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 His work rate is fantastic, and that is good for us. But I still think he was unlucky yesterday. His leap for that header was very good, Marshall wouldn't have kept that out. Debatable. Not sure about this comment. In modern football I feel you have to contribute with more than just work rate! We are trying to get promoted man!!! Work rate is a minimum requirement! I think a bit of technical ability needs to be added!!
dbt_lcfc Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 I personally thought he was one of our better players yesterday... can't remember him miss controlling the ball or getting shoved off the ball once, hit the bar twice although one was given offside and his all round play was good. He has looked a bit out of his depth the last few games (bar yesterday) but I just put that down to confidence, saying that Nugent has looked woefull the last few games and there has been no lynch mob for him?!?! The lad just needs a couple of goals and I'm sure his confidence will be sky high and we will see the same kind of affect that a bit of confidence has on players ie waggy
whoareyaaa Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 think he has done fairly well considering the step up and its his first season in this league so is still finding his feet. Has 5 goals and 5 assists and has had numerous other close chances, I think he will come good.
shade Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 does anyone agree with me at all that we just don't create that many great 'strikers chances'? yes we create lots of half chances around the box and the odd good move, but I rarely see a chance where I think "vardy (nuge or waggy) definitely should have scored that.
Happy Fox Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 does anyone agree with me at all that we just don't create that many great 'strikers chances'? yes we create lots of half chances around the box and the odd good move, but I rarely see a chance where I think "vardy (nuge or waggy) definitely should have scored that. We lack creativity in a 4-4-2 we have wingers they cross the ball in, low and behold! our front men cannot win headers because they are not suited to that football, NP needs to change his ways 4-4-2 is not working when Knockaert and Marshall were given the free role behind the front men we looked a much dangerous proposition now we are reverting back to NP predictable monotonous football.
Danizen Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 5goals 5assists not doing to bad imo. t's not just that, He doesn't look confident. The goal he scored against Blackburn, he took one more touch than most strikers in this league would have and against Derby, a confident boy would have hit it and found the net, instead he layed it off to Waggy. He was largely ineffective, yesterday. It's a shame because I think everyone here wanted him to do well.
Fox92 Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Not sure about this comment. In modern football I feel you have to contribute with more than just work rate! We are trying to get promoted man!!! Work rate is a minimum requirement! I think a bit of technical ability needs to be added!! Yeah, obviously. His work rate does create chances sometimes, but every player should have the workrate Vardy has.
foxile5 Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 t's not just that, He doesn't look confident. The goal he scored against Blackburn, he took one more touch than most strikers in this league would have and against Derby, a confident boy would have hit it and found the net, instead he layed it off to Waggy. He was largely ineffective, yesterday. It's a shame because I think everyone here wanted him to do well. Out of every single game he's played for us and every opportunity he's had in a City kit and you choose to criticise two moments when he's scored and assisted?!?!? What. The. Hell?!
Happy Fox Posted 23 December 2012 Posted 23 December 2012 Yeah, obviously. His work rate does create chances sometimes, but every player should have the workrate Vardy has. Why? if your technical ability and quality is there work rate doesn't need to overweight that. NP has got us into a functional unit where is the quality? we do have it in Marshall and Knockaert but they aren't being utilized properly imo and until NP changes his ways with regards to formation expect results not to be that great.
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