Captain... Posted 8 January 2013 Posted 8 January 2013 Has anyone had any experience of life coaching? My girlfriend is really into it and wants to become a life coach and is looking at attending a life coaching seminar costing between £700 - £3000 a ticket. The natural sceptic in me thinks it is all dodgy, but a quick search on Google and on life coach "god" Tony Robbins and it looks legit, but after seeing Peep Show take the piss out of it recently, it made me worry again. So anyone had any good or bad experiences?
Mack Posted 8 January 2013 Posted 8 January 2013 I reckon you'd get more return out of the betting thread on here than sinking 3k into that bollocks mate.
RobHawk Posted 8 January 2013 Posted 8 January 2013 Just ask Mark to get a certificate printed for her and away she goes! Just be worried if she starts talking dirty and tells you she wants a skirt made of cocks!
Captain... Posted 8 January 2013 Author Posted 8 January 2013 I reckon you'd get more return out of the betting thread on here than sinking 3k into that bollocks mate. It's not my money going in, but I don't really want to see her wasting hers, but she is sick of her office job and wants a new career, she has been to a few of these seminars, all free so far, but this guy Tony Robbins is the Don, it is like a training session with Messi or an audience with Alan Sugar or whoever is at the top of whatever particular thing floats your boat.
whoareyaaa Posted 8 January 2013 Posted 8 January 2013 It's not my money going in, but I don't really want to see her wasting hers, but she is sick of her office job and wants a new career, she has been to a few of these seminars, but this guy Tony Robbins is like a training session with Messi or an audience with Alan Sugar or whoever is at the top of whatever particular thing floats your boat. Instead of giving the bloke 3k why don't she use that 3k to set herself up. you mentioned that she has already been to a few so she knows the drill.
James. Posted 8 January 2013 Posted 8 January 2013 I question the reasoning behind anyone who feels they need a life coach but that said it appears to be a modern phenomena that will probably get more and more popular. However I would imagine it's quite hard to establish yourself, would very much rely on word of mouth, clever marketing and a very strong personality at the centre of it.
Captain... Posted 8 January 2013 Author Posted 8 January 2013 Does anyone really know exactly what it is? I question the reasoning behind anyone who feels they need a life coach but that said it appears to be a modern phenomena that will probably get more and more popular. However I would imagine it's quite hard to establish yourself, would very much rely on word of mouth, clever marketing and a very strong personality at the centre of it. If Peep Show is to be believed I think all you need is a certificate to print off, and a couple of mental mates.
Steven Posted 8 January 2013 Posted 8 January 2013 Life coaching is a bit like religion. It only has relevance if you believe in it. If you believe in it it has real worth and if you don't, none.
Kitchandro Posted 8 January 2013 Posted 8 January 2013 It's not my money going in, but I don't really want to see her wasting hers, but she is sick of her office job and wants a new career, she has been to a few of these seminars, all free so far, but this guy Tony Robbins is the Don, it is like a training session with Messi or an audience with Alan Sugar or whoever is at the top of whatever particular thing floats your boat. Isn't he the guy in Shallow Hal? This could get interesting for you....
Zingari Posted 8 January 2013 Posted 8 January 2013 Before I got myself a life coach I was a bed ridden, drug addled alcoholic with no hope, no future, no ambitions no drive, no partner or mates, no social life , I felt worthless Now I'm a bed ridden, drug addled alcoholic with no hope, no future, no ambition, no drive no partner or mates no social life , feeling worthless, but with a fookin bill for £500 for a load of old clap trap. You just never know what lies around the corner.
Vacamion Posted 8 January 2013 Posted 8 January 2013 My life coach advice: 'Have a lemsip and a wank and it will all be better in the morning' That'll be 3 large, please.
Captain... Posted 8 January 2013 Author Posted 8 January 2013 Yes. Care to share? I really don't know, I just get the feeling it is dodgy, does anyone else know of any actual bad experiences?
Kitchandro Posted 8 January 2013 Posted 8 January 2013 Care to share? I really don't know, I just get the feeling it is dodgy, does anyone else know of any actual bad experiences? Yeh I heard Jack Black got in a lift with him one time, next thing he knew he was getting off with mingers.
Jon the Hat Posted 8 January 2013 Posted 8 January 2013 If life coaches are so good at life coaching, and you can make a living out of it, why are they spending their time running seminar's and courses? Sounds like a pyramid scheme to me.
Captain... Posted 8 January 2013 Author Posted 8 January 2013 If life coaches are so good at life coaching, and you can make a living out of it, why are they spending their time running seminar's and courses? Sounds like a pyramid scheme to me. Maximising profit, by increasing revenue streams. Or just sadistic pleasure: http://www.guardian....-coal-walk-burn
James. Posted 8 January 2013 Posted 8 January 2013 Care to share? I really don't know, I just get the feeling it is dodgy, does anyone else know of any actual bad experiences? I'm no expert but I have a friend who has used a life coach and in short it's about helping someone achieve their goals - whether they be professional, personal, financial, whatever. Personally I think people should be more than able to achieve their own goals and it's an example of the nanny-ish modern society where people can't think for themselves and would rather employ someone to do it for them. But there's clearly a lot of people who disagree. I don't think there's any reason to be suspicious of it in terms of whether this course is a scam or anything like that. Life coaching is a very real modern phenomenon with real demand and something your girlfriend could probably make a living out of.
Captain... Posted 8 January 2013 Author Posted 8 January 2013 I'm no expert but I have a friend who has used a life coach and in short it's about helping someone achieve their goals - whether they be professional, personal, financial, whatever. Personally I think people should be more than able to achieve their own goals and it's an example of the nanny-ish modern society where people can't think for themselves and would rather employ someone to do it for them. But there's clearly a lot of people who disagree. I don't think there's any reason to be suspicious of it in terms of whether this course is a scam or anything like that. Life coaching is a very real modern phenomenon with real demand and something your girlfriend could probably make a living out of. And did it help your friend?
MooseBreath Posted 8 January 2013 Posted 8 January 2013 I thought life coaches were just decent motivators, and people pay to go and get all motivated, leave feeling good, but ultimately fall back into their old routines almost immediately. See also the thousands of self help books. I don't know why you would need to pay to become a life coach. That bit does sound a bit dodge charger. All you need to start with is your voice and a room full of people willing to listen.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 8 January 2013 Posted 8 January 2013 I question the reasoning behind anyone who feels they need a life coach but that said it appears to be a modern phenomena that will probably get more and more popular. However I would imagine it's quite hard to establish yourself, would very much rely on word of mouth, clever marketing and a very strong personality at the centre of it. This. It's the placebo effect isn't it? If people believe that something will make them better, often it will and it can take all kind of forms - from a plethora of spiritual "experiences" to the more mundane wacky diets or simple purchases. Like James says, it takes a strong personality to sell it and the belief that what you are doing genuinely works (if you don't then surely you're a fraud?) The problem is, does it work? Is it The Emperor's New Clothes, where people will say, "hey, it's fantastic!" simply for fear of standing out? I feel it's a bit like much modern art, where what is needed is the ability to persuade people that what you're doing is actually very clever and has some deep and hidden meaning - rather like The Emperor's New Clothes I guess. Maybe in a secular society where people don't subscribe to religion, where the political leaders are no more inspiring and art has become trash pop aesthetic, people need something extra to motivate themselves? And for once Moosebrat has said something that makes sense.
Captain... Posted 8 January 2013 Author Posted 8 January 2013 I thought life coaches were just decent motivators, and people pay to go and get all motivated, leave feeling good, but ultimately fall back into their old routines almost immediately. See also the thousands of self help books. I don't know why you would need to pay to become a life coach. That bit does sound a bit dodge charger. All you need to start with is your voice and a room full of people willing to listen. She's not paying to be a life coach she is paying to go to a 3 day seminar by the life coaching guru Tony Robbins, in a normal business you pay to attend training and some seminars, to be honest I am more concerned about it being a dodgy practice and aims to exploit the needy, than her paying for a seminar/training course and spending a lot of time and effort on it to become discredited when it is exposed as a big scam.
James. Posted 8 January 2013 Posted 8 January 2013 And did it help your friend? Well it seemed to give her clarity over what she wanted to achieve and how she was going to do it. Unfortunately she also became more self centered - it was quite clear the life coach had told her she needed to look after herself which ultimately meant not really giving much of a shit about others. To be honest we haven't been in touch for ages so not sure how it's going now but it certainly made me question the impact the coach had on her - maybe she was better able to achieve her goals but this seemed to come at the expense of her attitude towards others.
Vacamion Posted 8 January 2013 Posted 8 January 2013 She's not paying to be a life coach she is paying to go to a 3 day seminar by the life coaching guru Tony Robbins, in a normal business you pay to attend training and some seminars, to be honest I am more concerned about it being a dodgy practice and aims to exploit the needy, than her paying for a seminar/training course and spending a lot of time and effort on it to become discredited when it is exposed as a big scam. If Mr Robbins is selling books, CDS, further courses, T-shirts and mugs at the venue, I would strongly suspect him of being a purveyor of snake oil. He's a big dude, though, so I would probably send him a text to tell him so.
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